hell m8, I agree 100%- and furthermore I think Johnny realy meant it as well - - justbarney said:"clever politics", but I am almost 100% sure when Kim Beasley made his comment re agreeing with JH, it was genuine.
Lol!2020hindsight said:PS CHOPS, "Does anyone else find it hilariously ironic that THEORIES of economics were developed by an empiricist? " mmm nope lol. to be honest my eyebrows just got tied in a knot trying to work it out lol. I dont really understand - it's gone over my head mate lol. Is an empiricist the same as a monarchist ? Sorry m8 - rule 1 line 1 - never take the piss out of someone's nicname or their mottoBut what the hek - it's happy hour lol. (empirically speaking, I find that my mischievous side goes into overdrive on the matter of stirring during happy hour )
How did you know? Lol!barney said:You are more than welcome Chops .... Barney (PS are you a Drummer?)
chops_a_must said:Yet, his "invisible hand of the market" is somewhat hilarious, given the philosophy he subscribed to. The market is only an idea, not something that follows rules or formulas. If it was purely empirical, we wouldn't be here guessing about what everything will do. Hence, the humour.
Im drinking the undrinkable tonight and that would be "golden gate spumante"......i'll worry about this tomorow,lol2020hindsight said:Are you saying that the stock market is something as VAGUE as VOGUE - as illogical as fashion? Who is in control ?!!!- Which of those crazy gods would do this to us?!! Is it Apollo ?!! or THor, that triky bastad ?? Ahhh - the Amish had the idea - black and whiteyear in, year out.
Measuring the intangible
Valuing the unmeasureable
Thinking the unthinkable
Drinking the undrinkable
Lol!2020hindsight said:Are you saying that the stock market is something as VAGUE as VOGUE - as illogical as fashion? Who is in control ?!!!- Which of those crazy gods would do this to us?!! Is it Apollo ?!! or THor, that triky bastad ?? Ahhh - the Amish had the idea - black and whiteyear in, year out.
Measuring the intangible
Valuing the unmeasureable
(tangering the intangible?)
Thinking the unthinkable
Drinking the undrinkable
WaynewayneL said:I think it comes back to Knobby's comments... people chose their politicians like a footy team, They wear the colours, scarves etc, fly the flag, and support them no matter what.
We gotta get past that if we want good government (fat chance)
True they are the lesser of two evils, doesn't change the fact that howards a liar and I will always vote independants or greens (state or federal) to keep the bastards honest!!Julia said:Wayne
I think by the above comments you are doing the voting public a considerable disservice.
I think my own attitude is fairly typical of many voters, in that I am not entirely happy with the present government, despising some of their decisions and admiring and agreeing with others.
I voted Liberal at the last election. If an election were to be held tomorrow I would vote Liberal again. Why? Not necessarily because I am convinced they are all good people who have my best interests at heart, but rather because I trust the Opposition even less and believe they are even less competent.
The new "dream team" (god, how stupid is that as a label) has done nothing to change this view.
Julia
Julia said:Wayne
I think by the above comments you are doing the voting public a considerable disservice.
I think my own attitude is fairly typical of many voters, in that I am not entirely happy with the present government, despising some of their decisions and admiring and agreeing with others.
I voted Liberal at the last election. If an election were to be held tomorrow I would vote Liberal again. Why? Not necessarily because I am convinced they are all good people who have my best interests at heart, but rather because I trust the Opposition even less and believe they are even less competent.
The new "dream team" (god, how stupid is that as a label) has done nothing to change this view.
Julia
Yes, I totally agree. All you have to look at is the track record of the Liberal Party and you can just see competence shining through. So I have compiled a list of recent Liberal Party politicians who I feel have been amongst the best Australia has ever had.Julia said:I voted Liberal at the last election. If an election were to be held tomorrow I would vote Liberal again. Why? Not necessarily because I am convinced they are all good people who have my best interests at heart, but rather because I trust the Opposition even less and believe they are even less competent.
constable said:Im drinking the undrinkable tonight and that would be "golden gate spumante"......i'll worry about this tomorow,lol
Chops - your problem (with your high "thingo-istic" ideals) is going to be to find a better alternativechops_a_must said:Michael Wooldridge: Got a $500,000 a year a job 3 weeks after he left parliament, which just happened to be a political appointment. (illegal)
Peter Reith: Remember the Telstra card affair? Followed by that stock footage of him on that brick of a mobile phone? Not to mention blowing the defence budget by about $10 billion dollars. Oh yeah, and his role in the truth overboard affair.
Amanda Vanstone/ Phil Ruddock: Like to deport Australian citizens. Oh, and they can't confirm just how many people it has happened to, but do confirm it is definitely more than one.
... And not to mention leaving top secret documents at a conference table for journalists to grab.
I mean there are scandals and there are scandals !!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gough_Whitlam
In its second term, the Whitlam Government continued with its legislative reform program, but became embroiled in a series of controversies and scandals, including secret attempts to borrow large amounts of money from Middle Eastern governments, by-passing the Treasury and correct constitutional procedures (the "Loans Affair"). Whitlam was forced to dismiss Treasurer Jim Cairns and another senior minister, Rex Connor, for misleading Parliament.
The Liberals have had scandals though. It's just that no one seems to care. General apathy runs the day.2020hindsight said:Chops - your problem (with your high "thingo-istic" ideals) is going to be to find a better alternative
Wayne - He's circling CIVILIZED Australia!!wayneL said:This guy is pressing a few of my buttons...It will be interesting to see if rhetoric turns to policy... other than the old style labour welfare.
wayneL said:This guy is pressing a few of my buttons
It will be interesting to see if rhetoric turns to policy... other than the old style labour welfare.
Well, we do have a post office, a pub, and the roads are paved... even if we're a tad behind on haute couture lol2020hindsight said:Wayne - He's circling CIVILIZED Australia!!
what makes you think he'll come within 400km of you ?? lol
wayneL said:Well, we do have a post office, a pub, and the roads are paved... even if we're a tad behind on haute couture lol
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