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BBI - Babcock & Brown Infrastructure

The bad news just keeps coming, :-(

I dont hold much hope for the share price tomorrow.

Does everyone on here still maintain their original holdings or have some of you reduced your holdings in light of the recent announcements?
 

Ouch! I'm really glad i didn't get myself too far in with BBI - the next couple of months will be very interesting.
 
This is why it's a serious issue:

PRESS RELEASE: Fitch: THPA Finance Notes Watch Negative


could directly reduce THPA's EBITDA by up to 25%.[/B]

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I consider this matter in light of the following:

a) This is material at the asset level only, not in the overall context of BBI.

b) This will be offset to a certain extent by revenue generated from the Tesco site.

c) If my memory serves me correctly weren't Aldi constructing a site on a smaller scale than the Tesco one? (BB do you recall?).

d) I added 150k BEPPA today, I see this as a buying opportunity.

e) Expect bad news at times with BBI, it is high risk high reward investment

BB if I make the survivors party the bottle of 2004 Grange is a certainty.

Cheers
 
The rating action follows Corus' recent announcement that it might have to close its Redcar steel plant located at Teesport in northeast England.

Might people. Not WILL. Huge difference.

Two of the four companies offtake consortium for TCP have signed an MOU to buy the facility. Obviously the negotiations are not going well, and they are trying to screw down the price they will pay to Corus.

It's a case of 'make a deal, or we will walk away and you will lose everything'.

It is simply leverage in negotiations, nothing more. Unfortunately this affects other companies that supply services to Corus, and PD Ports is one. If PD Ports is smart, they should start bellowing about the Tesco facility and how it is going to make a 35% increase in profits which more than covers the possible loss of Corus.

In 6 weeks time we should have an announcement that will triple our SP and this will all seem like a bad memory. In the meantime, I hope you have all taken you heart tablets.
 

Mits,

I haven't taken my heart tablets, but I would be lying if I said I hadn't lost my nerve.

Currently am thinking of moving my capital from bbi into either beppa or hfa.

I hope this turns out well for us all in the end.
 
Hi guys,
I am new to this forum and am beppa holder.
Just wanted to let people know that i've enjoyed reading the bbi forum and appreciate the wealth of info here.

I find it hard to find any research coverage on bbi however the recent one i've read from merills/bank of america has underperform on bbi with target price of 10 cents.

I guess uncertainty coupled with global retreat in equities is really taking a toll on bbi. Next couple of days will be interesting though.
 

Do you really have any confidence in these guys?

They had a buy recommendation on BBI when it was a $1 plus, were unable to recognise the inherent risk in the toxic assets they held/were writing, have had to be bailed out in $ billions because of their financial mismanagement and no doubt by virtue of the fact they have access to the same published information as you and I (in theory) are experts on the intricacies of a multi billion dollar diversified infrastructure business.

I dont put much credence in analysts.

Cheers
 
If DBCT gets sold by June 30 all is well. BBI will survive.

If DBCT doesn't get sold, BBI may be in trouble because EBITDA may fall circa 25% at PD Ports to a level that will trigger a debt covenant breach. There is 75M GBP of corporate debt allocated to PD Ports. This puts them at the mercy of the banks. Do the banks give them breathing space or do they call in the debt? That's the worry. Asset impairment cannot trigger a debt covenant breach but EBITDA/DEBT ratio can.
However, on the positive side, the new Tesco facility will add significant EBITDA which may just save BBI's bacon at PD Ports.

They also have the problem that if Euroports deal doesn't satisfy conditions precedent by June 30, that sale may not go ahead. That will then require BBI Euroports to pay back the 35M Euro deposit (which BBI says BBI Euroports doesn't have). This is guaranteed by BBI. BBI cannot pay this because of the "sweep" facility being enforced by their corporate lenders. Once again, they would have to rely on the banks agreeing to a new deal and new terms (what will the new interest rate be?)

BBI also has to pay out the minority interests in Euroports that have exercised their put option. The quantum is unknown at this stage but could run into $200M+. BBI does not have this cash (once again due to the cash "sweep" forced on them by the corporate lenders).

I see the next two months as critical to BBI surviving. Quite simply, they must now sell 100% of DBCT at anything above $2.5Bn. They then have to negotiate with the corporate lenders who are owed approximately $1.3Bn on what happens to that free cash generated by the sale of DBCT in regard to the sweep, bearing in mind BBI might have legal commitments to the BBI Euroports minority interests AND a commitment to repay the $35M euro deposit to BNB European Infrastructure Fund (BBEIF).

One would hope that the corporate bankers allow BBI to honour those commitments if they are there.
 

BB,

Very well put BB, sums it up in a nutshell, now we can only wait and see and whether the risk or reward side of the equation starts to prevail.

Cheers
 
The bad news just keeps coming, :-(

I dont hold much hope for the share price tomorrow.

Does everyone on here still maintain their original holdings or have some of you reduced your holdings in light of the recent announcements?


Gday

I also have what i consider a lot to lose, but also the potential for massive gains
im also feeling pretty nervous at this time, so i have put in stops on bbi, the only time ive used them ( I wish i had used them before the GFC hit and id be sitting in cash now) but i never got around to having to do comsec's silly test to get access to the facility , (I have now LOL)
 
Looks like it is going to be another tough day for BBI and BEPPA.

Traders have all but dropped this stock and the depth of buyers has drastically reduced.

We just have to write off this week and hope it finds some support at current levels before hoping for some positive announcements in the next couple of weeks.
 
Although in fairness the market in general is very much taking profit at the moment. The Dow has been on a slide since the end of last week. Dropped heavily last night. I believe sentiment is such that even without the ports bad news the SP would have slid in line with the market.
The time to worry is when the market's on the up and we're on the down. Which isn't the case, so I for one am looking for 'top-up' opportunities at the moment.
 
BEPPA is being hammered today big time. Is that something to do with sparcs voting tomorrow. I sold BBI holding today thinking of switching to BEPPA more.
 
If sparcs voting goes bad tomorrow BBI will be around 8 cents. BBP bad news could also help in smashing the sp. would like to pickup some BEPPA under 10 cents tomorrow
 
I wonder what the affect of the DBCT announcement will be on the BBI and BEPPA prices when and if it is released? IMO the "if" is very likely, if it does not happen prior to 30 June then of course there will be major problems.

My instinct is that the buying action has pulled back and will possibly kick off again late today or early tomorrow as sellers start to panic about the SPARCS outcome. Then there may be some price movement, but then I am always wrong.

Geesh, I am falling into the mentality of a trader and watching day by day price movements.

Cheers
 
Found this: http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/business/4366998.PM_joins_Corus_in_fight_for_contract/


I think what I mentioned yesterday is true, there is more to the story than what has come out in the media so far.
 
So just to clarify, If this mob by the factory, PD ports still has a customer which is good news. If this mob dont buy the factory, CORUS pull the plug and close it down which is bad news.

So at this point in time it is all if, buts and maybes
 
Yes, that is exactly it. There is no actual decision as yet to the actual decision yet.

Basically it looks like the two companies that signed the MOU basically wanted Corus for cheap steel, now the **** has fallen out of the market and having them around is a competitive disadvantage. So, sign an MOU, then break the contract, and let the factory slide into the ground.

Also found this.... gives a bit more background: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/article-1179763/How-Signora-Steel-slashed-10-000-jobs-Corus.html

 
Looks like the SPARCS resolutions didn't get passed. The nominated conversions are all going through. There will be a few more BBI on the market today I would guess.
 
Looks like the SPARCS resolutions didn't get passed. The nominated conversions are all going through. There will be a few more BBI on the market today I would guess.

But only 25m off get converted to BBI, another 120m remain as SPACS, have I read that correctly ???

If that is the case, it isnt that bad
 
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