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Doris - you are really winging it. You don't really know what happened in 2000, do you? The decision did NOT go the CONGRESS, it went to the U.S. Supreme Court. The reason it went to the U.S. Supreme court was because the Democrats took it to the Florida courts, and the Democrat appointed Florida Supreme court was going to allow the Democrats to do a partial recount in a few Democrat controlled counties, using inconsistent standards of what was considered a vote. Hanging chads here, pregnant chads there. The U.S. Supreme Court didn't give the election to Democrats, they required that they do a statewide recount, not pick and choose counties where they thought they could mine votes. The Democrats didn't want that - because they knew they would lose. After the election, a group of media outlets went down to prove Bush had really lost, but, lo and behold Bush won whatever way the vote was counted.

And Repuglians? Thanks a lot for that. Somehow, I thought the discourse on this board was above that. At least I had hoped so.
 
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Nothing wrong with good intentions, only those that complain about them, that's when you say NO PROBLEM, and get out of there. There are good intentions and conditional intentions with a mind to change course midstream, that's the difference.

"Good intentions line the road to hell"
and
"Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me."

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I actually looked up the odds on betfair today, $1.60 for Obama, $2.52 for McCain.

Looks like an interesting rest of the year.
 
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My mistake sleepy dad. I was wrong on the arbitrator. It was the Supreme Court.

It's convenient that the president appoints the Supreme Court judges!

On January 6, 2001, a joint-session of Congress met to certify the electoral vote. (see below)

In the aftermath of the election, independent recounts were conducted by The Miami Herald and USA Today, concluding that Bush would have won in all legally requested recount scenarios, and in all other scenarios except for "a fresh recount in all counties using the most generous standards,” which would have gone to Gore.

Grab a coffee, put your feet up and read:

 
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And Repuglians? Thanks a lot for that. Somehow, I thought the discourse on this board was above that. At least I had hoped so.

Meant facetiously...

But I do reproach Republicans as repugnant and reprove their reprehensible reprimand for reproachful repression of respectable middle class and repudiate their reprobation of those they represent.

Too late. Repentant reprisal required to reposit Democrats.
 
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Hi Doris, I see you are really saying "up your's", to the Republicans.
A bit of naughty behavior by a certain lady in the upper house, tut tut, that's Democrats for you.
They only want the respectable middle class around to publicize future tax breaks, that goes for both sides.

Obama is happy with the system as he could propose, if future President, lots of tax breaks and an expensive health service option: Knowing all the time that Congress won't vote it through.

McCain won't go for a health service option as he doesn't want to. It wouldn't get through anyway.

Who's being honest, "NO ONE".
 
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noirua

"Obama is happy with the system as he could propose, if future President, lots of tax breaks and an expensive health service

McCain won't go for a health service option as he doesn't want to. It wouldn't get through anyway."


With the amount of money they are printing

(How many trees are felled for this and the amount of co2 in the air, they should be liable to pay carbon credits to print money!)

They could very well of set up a functioning health system. Of course McCain won't support anything which would help the people. Kill them in their own country or the next war, all he cares about is himself almost like a vendetta towards humans from his days in Vietnam. Remember his personal millions courteous of Cindy's family. And the WIFE he left in a wheel chair.

Wouldn't it be nice if he ended up in hospital next to a real worker as in the
Bucket List.
 
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Hi Green08, not all banknotes are made of paper. Australian notes are made of polymer, for instance.

I'm sure the time spent by John McCain in captivity was enough time in prison. Barack Obama has stated his respect for the man in acknowledging him and what he suffered.

All of us are flawed in some respects and the Presidential candidates also.
 
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not all banknotes are made of paper. Australian notes are made of polymer, for instance.

They say you can't do much to the Australian Note. Though I did iron one once and it shrank! Just like Monopoly money thanks goodness it was a $5
 
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Have you looked at Obama's health plan on his website?
Barack uses his time efficiently - what a croc that he would waste time playing games with bills!

I knew that McCain's plan was to tax employers' health care fees for their employees but was interested to hear the figures from Biden in the debate.

Tax employers on the $12k benefits package - that's a neutral fiscal deal! Not!
But as Biden claimed, employers would abandon the inclusion of health care in their employees' contracts.
People would thus be replacing their current $12k medical insurance with McCain's $5k tax credit.

This does not solve the hospital crisis, especially in emergencies, for the unemployed.
This doesn't solve the crisis for people who don't have employer-sponsored health insurance.

Doctors in Australia are paid for their overtime but in the US they aren't.
Fair pay for doctors! Health insurance for everyone in America!
 
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Interesting, however, there will not be any money available for the health service options, what ever they are. Japan has tried to rid themselves of a 20-odd-year decline and has not succeeded yet. Stock market index hit 38,000 and all this time later is only around 15,000.
 
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might as well post this - polls immediately before the VP debate..
Obama with a handy lead...

Incidentally, bookies' odds remained unchanged "through" the VP debate.

Maybe a tennis anology...
Like Wimbleton, looks like it was "one of those games played on the outer courts". Although it may well affect things in the future when the teams stand together for "the doubles". OBama / Biden side by side ; and McCain/ Palin ditto.

http://www.easyodds.com/compareodds/specials/Politics/m/147587-234-5.html
Obama 9/20 ($1.45)
McCain 11/4 ($3.75)

http://www.gallup.com/poll/107674/Interactive-Graph-Follow-General-Election.aspx
 

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Poor sweet innocent children.


This is scary stuff folks. Look at the faces of some of these sweet innocent children. What are their parents thinking?

I've got four children, and of course they know my viewpoints, but I would NEVER make them do something like this.

Someone on another forum said this reminded him of the Pied Piper. It is even worse - this is real.
 
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Have to agree.
Amaturish but nevertheless wrong. Young children shouldn't be used like this.
 
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Obama, McCain help House pass financial bill

Numerous lawmakers said it's far from clear that the bailout plan will work and politicians who support it may have a lot of explaining to do if it falls flat.

Obama and McCain helped House leaders round up votes for Friday's passage of a $700 billion financial rescue plan, and Obama's role seemed particularly energetic, Democrats said.

Obama "made numerous calls" and "helped us gather the votes on the Democratic side to pass this legislation," said Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill., chairman of his party's House caucus.

Rep. John Yarmuth of Kentucky, another Democrat who switched after talking with Obama, said the presidential nominee had described the bill as "just patching up a hole in the boat to get it to port."

Reps. Elijah Cummings and Donna Edwards, both Maryland Democrats, were among several members of the Congressional Black Caucus who decided to back the bill after talking with Obama.

Cummings said Obama told him that, if elected president, he would direct a Treasury Department official to work with homeowners in foreclosure to restructure their loans. Obama also said he would seek changes in bankruptcy laws allowing judges to reduce the amount that borrowers owe on their home loans, Cummings said.

"It's not too often you get the future president telling you that his priority matches your priority," he said.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gMTux__tYFdM9y-JnbKpzQbc_OtQD93J9AQ00
 
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Barack Obama said he doesn't lose sleep over losing the presidential election:

"What keeps me up at night is winning the election."

The next president will face daunting problems: two wars, the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression, terrorist threats, a militarily resurgent Russia and pressing needs for education and health care.

He also left open the possibility that he would name his treasury secretary before the election."This is going to have to be someone who knows their stuff and part of a larger economic team that can help drive an agenda I put forth."

Obama said he would probably appoint Republicans to his cabinet. He also hinted that he'd consider Gov. Jennifer Granholm for a federal appointment, praising her work as governor and adding, "I'm somebody who appreciates talent. I'll leave it at that."

Obama said he would end the practice of using signing statements that give the president power to enforce laws -- or not -- despite Congress' wishes, a practice that the Bush administration has used 150 times.

He said he chose Biden to help him navigate the nation's many issues, not because of what he brought to the ticket in vote-getting power.

Asked if he had considered a female running mate, he said Clinton was "on my short list," as was Sebelius.

"The question is who has the judgment to surround themselves with good managers, to identify the core issues facing country, to project a vision of where we need to go, to be able to delegate power to move the country in that direction."

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081003/NEWS15/810030387/1008/news06
 
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McCain Loses More Ground on Electoral Map as he Waves White Flag in Michigan

This brilliant clip today shows Obama: 229, McCain: 174 electoral votes atm based on polls.

Watch the journo use the interactive whiteboard to show likely trends to 264 for Obama. 270 needed.

The six embattled states are either tied or leaning to Obama -
Obama must win Ohio, Florida now McCain has conceded Michigan.


 
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Have to agree.
Amaturish but nevertheless wrong. Young children shouldn't be used like this.


This was in a Hollywood executives house in Venice California.

From the original poster of this video
 
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All responsible homeowners should be raging mad at this proposal. All of us that bought houses we could afford should be angry. Why should those irresponsible home buyers get their home loan principal amounts reduced, and those that did not buy more house than they could afford get nothing?

I have a friend that bought a $500,000 dollar house on the same income as me. He is in foreclosure. Why should the government come in and bail him out? That is ludicrous. He should have bought a $250,000 house like I did. If he had, he would not be in foreclosure.

This is crazy, and, if the average American finds out about it, they will be MAD. Can I have my $500,000 house at a discount?

I would think that even the leftists would be against this crazy proposal.
 
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