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Migrants Will Need to Bring Own Home to Australia Under Coalition, Dutton Says​

Stringent new measures announced by the Coalition would require migrants to arrive at Australian airports with a visa, a security clearance and a three-to-four-bedroom house.

Announcing the new policy, Opposition Leader Peter Dutton said it was reasonable to request those entering the country to provide their own accommodation.

“It’s common practice for people to bring clothes with them, so I’m not sure why it’s so controversial to suggest they bring their housing with them too.

“I think it’s more than reasonable. Luggage allowances on commercial airlines are very generous these days, especially when you fly business.

“And so what we’re saying to prospective migrants is simply, if you want to come to Australia, then dismantle your home brick by brick, box it up and put it in checked-in luggage when you leave.
“If it means purchasing excess luggage in order to get the spare bedroom across too, then that’s a decision for the individual in question. But I don’t think this is too onerous at all”.

Migrants Will Need to Bring Own Home to Australia Under Coalition, Dutton Says — The Shovel

Stringent new measures announced by the Coalition would require migrants to arrive at Australian airports with a visa, a security clearance and a three-to-four-bedroom house. Announcing the new policy, Opposition Leader Peter Dutton said it was reasonable to request those entering the country to...

theshovel.com.au

 

[sptrawler]

Another political time bomb on the horizon.

Energy minister travels to Italy as Whyalla steelworks owners flag further delays - ABC News

amp-abc-net-au.cdn.ampproject.org

 

[wayneL]

So Laura Tingle tells us you're all revolting racist pigs.

Thoughts?

 

[SirRumpole]

So Laura Tingle tells us you're all revolting racist pigs.

Thoughts?

Migration is an economic policy, not a social one, people have to accept that.

If we need people, bring them in , otherwise don't.

Criticism of migration is to criticise the government's migration policy, not the migrants themselves.

Looks like ABC "reporters" have overstepped the mark between presenting facts and their own personal opinions, it's happening more often and someone needs to set them straight,

Kim?

 

[moXJO]

So Laura Tingle tells us you're all revolting racist pigs.

Thoughts?

No one cares what that elitist dick thinks

 

[IFocus]

No one cares what that elitist dick thinks

Actually the foreign owned News Corp cares deeply after quoting Tingle out of context saying no way Australia is racist at the same time saying Antisemitism is spiralling out of control, of course Tingle is a female eh.

 

[wayneL]

Actually the foreign owned News Corp cares deeply after quoting Tingle out of context

Wow, they're finally learning stuff from the ABC

 

[moXJO]

Actually the foreign owned News Corp cares deeply after quoting Tingle out of context saying no way Australia is racist at the same time saying Antisemitism is spiralling out of control, of course Tingle is a female eh.

Oh I wasn't talking about her comment.
These elitist snobs are all becoming backwaters.

 

[moXJO]

Here's her comment:
“We are a racist country, let’s face it. We always have been and it’s very depressing”

I think she was trying to justify immigration numbers with this slop. You deserve all the scorn dropping these types of comments on the abc.
Everyone is racist to some degree. The whites are probably the least as a group at the moment, due to being bombarded by Marxist shite.

 

[sptrawler]

Oh I wasn't talking about her comment.
These elitist snobs are all becoming backwaters.

Yes I was just reading an article, where Robert De Niro and a couple of other actors were called in by Bidens crew, to addressing a Trump supporting crowd.
It really shows how out of touch the elites are, what the hell would multi millionaire actors, who have never worked a real job know about the trials and tribulations of working class people?
It's the same as Tingle I don't know where she lives but I bet a pound to a pinch of $hit she is worth millions, the very same people who tell everyone how to treat others, live in their ivory castles and preach to the unwashed masses.
As you say they are becoming a backwater.

Robert De Niro Spars With Trump Supporters at Chaotic Press Conference Outside Trial

The famed actor was tapped by the Biden-Harris campaign to deliver remarks outside the former president's criminal hush-money trial

au.news.yahoo.com

 

[SirRumpole]

It really shows how out of touch the elites are, what the hell would multi millionaire actors, who have never worked a real job know about the trials and tribulations of working class people?

Unless they were born rich they would have had to work their way up.

So acting aint rocket science, but the film industry employs lots of people and shouldn't be sneered at.

 

[sptrawler]

Unless they were born rich they would have had to work their way up.

So acting aint rocket science, but the film industry employs lots of people and shouldn't be sneered at.

That's correct, but to send a multi millionaire actor to lecture a political rally of disenfranchised working class people about their poor choices, is somewhat inflammatory. Don't you think?
Well the response he received would indicate, it obviously didn't go down as expected, maybe just another indication of how out of touch political organisers are with the masses.

 

[SirRumpole]

That's correct, but to send a multi millionaire actor to lecture a political rally of disenfranchised working class people about their poor choices, is somewhat inflammatory. Don't you think?
Well the response he received would indicate, it obviously didn't go down as expected, maybe just another indication of how out of touch political organisers are with the masses.

It certainly didn't go down well with the loud mouth Trump supporters, what the silent majority thinks is another matter.

 

[sptrawler]

It certainly didn't go down well with the loud mouth Trump supporters, what the silent majority thinks is another matter.

It was a bit like sending Malcolm Fraser out to Wilcannia, to tell people to move to Sydney, the views are so much better there.

 

[wayneL]

It certainly didn't go down well with the loud mouth Trump supporters, what the silent majority thinks is another matter.

Only about 5 months to find out

 

[moXJO]

That's correct, but to send a multi millionaire actor to lecture a political rally of disenfranchised working class people about their poor choices, is somewhat inflammatory. Don't you think?
Well the response he received would indicate, it obviously didn't go down as expected, maybe just another indication of how out of touch political organisers are with the masses.

Not only that but they sent them out the front of Trump’s court case because "that's where all the media was". Talk about desperation.

 

[sptrawler]

Here's her comment:
“We are a racist country, let’s face it. We always have been and it’s very depressing”

I think she was trying to justify immigration numbers with this slop. You deserve all the scorn dropping these types of comments on the abc.
Everyone is racist to some degree. The whites are probably the least as a group at the moment, due to being bombarded by Marxist shite.

What I don't understand, is how little these elites care about the working middle class, paying for their own demise and the worsening prospects for the aspirational immigrants that are coming here. They are more concerned about their own virtue signalling IMO.

Put simply, the Govt is spending $11.3 b on social housing, while new and established house prices are spiralling out of control, due in a lot of ways to the increased immigration and demand.

So getting back to the worker, he/she goes to work to pay for the social housing, which they won't qualify for because they work.

Meanwhile their aspirations of owning a house are being blown out of the water, by spiralling house prices being exacerbated by immigration levels.

I guess the light at the end of the tunnel is when the worker loses their job, due to the expected rise in unemployment also exacerbated by immigration levels, at least then they will qualify for social housing as long as they have it finished in time.

The dirty little secret that keeps Australian housing wildly unaffordable

Home owners may express sympathy for renters priced out of the market, but the truth is that they like owning expensive real estate – and don’t want it to get cheaper.

www.smh.com.au

From the article:
The idea of housing as the main, if not the only, form of real wealth creation for ordinary people is deeply embedded in the national psyche. Superannuation is starting to rival it but is still a long way behind.

That means doing something about it requires true political leadership – that is, doing something right that’s unpopular. Study after study on the subject has concluded that the high price of housing is leading to dangerous inequality and distorting the economy and society, yet political leaders have never tackled it effectively, for obvious reasons.

The fact that one of the three least-populated countries on earth contains the world’s second-most expensive housing is a national calamity and a stunning failure of public policy. For decades, political leaders have paid lip service to housing affordability, while doing nothing that would bring prices down. In fact, most of the big political decisions have done the opposite.

For example, the capital gains tax discount in 1999 was designed by business leaders to encourage investing in their businesses, but it only led to a surge in investment in housing. Since then, there have been official inquiries and taskforces into housing affordability in 2003, 2004, 2008, 2009, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2018 and 2022. Throughout all this time, house prices kept rising, except when APRA cracked down on bank lending to investors in 2017, and when the Reserve Bank increased interest rates in 2022. Policy has been nowhere, done nothing.

When the ALP adopted its policy to modify negative gearing in 2016 and there was an opportunity for the political class to come together and actually achieve something, it was turned into another occasion for rivalry, and was later excluded from the terms of reference of yet another inquiry. Transport infrastructure decisions have usually favoured roads – usually toll roads, not fast rail – and all the work on the latter has focused on the pie in the sky of inter-capital city trains, rather than anything designed to increase the supply of housing.

And perhaps most important of all, decisions about the level of immigration have been driven by the needs of business, with little thought to housing the new arrivals or to the impact on house prices.

The bottom line is that Australian capital-city housing is too expensive compared to incomes for a healthy society, and that needs to change. Merely bringing the rate of increase in house prices back to the rate of growth in incomes isn’t enough – that ratio needs to come down, so it isn’t a stretch to buy a place to live. To achieve this will require active, and serious, government intervention. It won’t be enough simply to restore the amount of housing construction to what it was before the pandemic, as the federal government is now aspiring to do.

We don’t need another inquiry or a royal commission; there’s a room full of inquiries, reports and submissions. They just need a taskforce drawn from Treasury and the housing department to go through the work that’s been done already and come up with a policy that has a clear aim and is likely to work. That would be a good start.

 

[wayneL]

I'm going to come at this from a different angle. Yes we are a racist country, yes we are.

Tingle is the epitome of our racism in convincing people to be anti-white, even by white people. It is self evident by Tingle's statement.

Leftist self loathing, the most toxic and destructive of all racisms.

 

[SirRumpole]

What I don't understand, is how little these elites care about the working middle class, paying for their own demise and the worsening prospects for the aspirational immigrants that are coming here. They are more concerned about their own virtue signalling IMO.

Put simply, the Govt is spending $11.3 b on social housing, while new and established house prices are spiralling out of control, due in a lot of ways to the increased immigration and demand.

So getting back to the worker, he/she goes to work to pay for the social housing, which they won't qualify for because they work.

Meanwhile their aspirations of owning a house are being blown out of the water, by spiralling house prices being exacerbated by immigration levels.

I guess the light at the end of the tunnel is when the worker loses their job, due to the expected rise in unemployment also exacerbated by immigration levels, at least then they will qualify for social housing as long as they have it finished in time.

The dirty little secret that keeps Australian housing wildly unaffordable

Home owners may express sympathy for renters priced out of the market, but the truth is that they like owning expensive real estate – and don’t want it to get cheaper.

www.smh.com.au

From the article:
The idea of housing as the main, if not the only, form of real wealth creation for ordinary people is deeply embedded in the national psyche. Superannuation is starting to rival it but is still a long way behind.

That means doing something about it requires true political leadership – that is, doing something right that’s unpopular. Study after study on the subject has concluded that the high price of housing is leading to dangerous inequality and distorting the economy and society, yet political leaders have never tackled it effectively, for obvious reasons.

The fact that one of the three least-populated countries on earth contains the world’s second-most expensive housing is a national calamity and a stunning failure of public policy. For decades, political leaders have paid lip service to housing affordability, while doing nothing that would bring prices down. In fact, most of the big political decisions have done the opposite.

For example, the capital gains tax discount in 1999 was designed by business leaders to encourage investing in their businesses, but it only led to a surge in investment in housing. Since then, there have been official inquiries and taskforces into housing affordability in 2003, 2004, 2008, 2009, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2018 and 2022. Throughout all this time, house prices kept rising, except when APRA cracked down on bank lending to investors in 2017, and when the Reserve Bank increased interest rates in 2022. Policy has been nowhere, done nothing.

When the ALP adopted its policy to modify negative gearing in 2016 and there was an opportunity for the political class to come together and actually achieve something, it was turned into another occasion for rivalry, and was later excluded from the terms of reference of yet another inquiry. Transport infrastructure decisions have usually favoured roads – usually toll roads, not fast rail – and all the work on the latter has focused on the pie in the sky of inter-capital city trains, rather than anything designed to increase the supply of housing.

And perhaps most important of all, decisions about the level of immigration have been driven by the needs of business, with little thought to housing the new arrivals or to the impact on house prices.

The bottom line is that Australian capital-city housing is too expensive compared to incomes for a healthy society, and that needs to change. Merely bringing the rate of increase in house prices back to the rate of growth in incomes isn’t enough – that ratio needs to come down, so it isn’t a stretch to buy a place to live. To achieve this will require active, and serious, government intervention. It won’t be enough simply to restore the amount of housing construction to what it was before the pandemic, as the federal government is now aspiring to do.

We don’t need another inquiry or a royal commission; there’s a room full of inquiries, reports and submissions. They just need a taskforce drawn from Treasury and the housing department to go through the work that’s been done already and come up with a policy that has a clear aim and is likely to work. That would be a good start.

Would like that article better if the smh simply came out and said axe -ve gearing and cgt discount instead of sidestepping the issue.

 

[SirRumpole]

I'm going to come at this from a different angle. Yes we are a racist country, yes we are.

Tingle is the epitome of our racism in convincing people to be anti-white, even by white people. It is self evident by Tingle's statement.

Leftist self loathing, the most toxic and destructive of all racisms.

Do you have a link to her actual words?