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mullokintyre said:
Politicians really are dumb.
In this day and age, when every utterance you make is recorded and readily acessible at a later time, you need to be careful what you say.
Since Jim Chalmers became treasurer after the statement below, we have had 10 rate increases, and inflation has been higher than the inflation rate that he bagged the previous government.
Thats not to remove blame from the previous government, but at some point you cease to get away with blaming hte previous government.
That time is fast approaching, or may have even passed.
Mick
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Karma.
 
I have not been a great fan of the lightweight single issue politics of the Teals, but for omn this occasionn the policy platform put up is something can heartily agree with. From SMH
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Lobbying creates the impression that if you have enough money, you can get the ear of politicians.
Its a "for the wealthy" version of the voice.
Mick
 
mullokintyre said:
I have not been a great fan of the lightweight single issue politics of the Teals, but for omn this occasionn the policy platform put up is something can heartily agree with. From SMH
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Lobbying creates the impression that if you have enough money, you can get the ear of politicians.
Its a "for the wealthy" version of the voice.
Mick
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I wish them luck with that. I will be interesting to see what proportion of politician's time the big money gets versus say community or welfare lobbyists.
 
SirRumpole said:
I wish them luck with that. I will be interesting to see what proportion of politician's time the big money gets versus say community or welfare lobbyists.
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Given that the political class are dead against lobbying when in opposition, it comes as o surprise that there is a complete volte-face when in government.
From ABC News
The NSW Labor Party and politicians including Premier Chris Minns accepted political donations totalling more than $100,000 from lobbyists in the lead-up to the state election, three years after the party argued lobbyists should be banned from donating.

Since taking office in March, Labor ministers have also had more than three dozen meetings with lobby firms, some of which were donors.

The party's position on lobbyists is a far cry from 2014 when the then opposition leader John Robertson vowed to end their influence.

John Robertson called to ban third-party lobbyists from meeting with ministers.(ABC News: Kathleen Dyett)
"Under a Labor government, third-party lobbyists will be banned from meeting with ministers, their staff and departments," Mr Robertson told the party's state conference, to applause and cheers.

"Labor will deal directly with people, not through professional lobbyists."

In 2019, NSW Labor made a submission to a parliamentary inquiry stating banning property developer donations had helped "return integrity" and "remove the perception of undue influence".

The submission argued lobbyist donations should likewise be prohibited, and noted: "It is Labor policy not to accept donations from professional lobbyists".

But an analysis of party donation records by 7.30 shows Labor accepted money from 17 different lobbyists and lobby firms during the state election campaign, including Hawker Britton, PremierNational, Anacta Strategies, TG Public Affairs and Counsel House.

The majority of the lobbyists who donated were registered in NSW at the time. Others, registered at the Commonwealth level, took up lobbying in NSW after Labor's victory.

Electoral commission records from the past financial year show Mr Minns accepted donations from four lobbying firms, including at events listed as "Chris Minns fundraiser" and "Dinner with Chris Minns MP", before the election.
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Mick
 
wayneL said:
Nice...

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www.skynews.com.au

Scrubbing of phrase 'Anzac Day' from state's holiday laws insults our veterans

Want the definition of the term "un-Australian"?
www.skynews.com.au www.skynews.com.au
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Who dreams up this crap, to think people are in office and get paid to come up with this nonsense, is beyond the pale,
We have failing health systems, failing education systems, failing housing policies, rampant crime and they spend time and taxpayers money on trying to undermine our national identity and respect for those who have given their lives at the request of previous Governments.
It just highlights how little respect politicians have for their own responsibilities, is there any wonder the public's respect for politicians is falling, they obviously deserve the same respect they show for those they sent to their deaths IMO.
It's a bloody disgrace.
 
sptrawler said:
Who dreams up this crap, to think people are in office and get paid to come up with this nonsense, is beyond the pale,
We have failing health systems, failing education systems, failing housing policies, rampant crime and they spend time and taxpayers money on trying to undermine our national identity and respect for those who have given their lives at the request of previous Governments.
It just highlights how little respect politicians have for their own responsibilities, is there any wonder the public's respect for politicians is falling, they obviously deserve the same respect they show for those they sent to their deaths IMO.
It's a bloody disgrace.
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Mr sp I have been pondering on this for a couple of days.
me Ufortunately my retort would have had been banned for for time by Joe Blow.
It is on the verge of a national disgrace.
This crowd in SA should be kicked out and a caretaker government put in place.
 
farmerge said:
Mr sp I have been pondering on this for a couple of days.
me Ufortunately my retort would have had been banned for for time by Joe Blow.
It is on the verge of a national disgrace.
This crowd in SA should be kicked out and a caretaker government put in place.
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It's interesting when the very same State scream for the submarine maintenance facility, yet demean the very people they expect to man the subs they want to maintain, shows how shallow politicians are when they fall over their own hypocrisy.

If ANZAC day shouldn't be there as a public holiday, for people to reflect on the sacrifice those soldiers gave, well then S.A shouldn't have a public holiday at all see how that goes down. If it isn't ANZAC day, it should be just another work day, for them. :xyxthumbs

Have a referendum on that one FW's. :roflmao:
 
farmerge said:
This crowd in SA should be kicked out and a caretaker government put in place.
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I'm not at all keen on removing the name ANZAC but on the other hand, politically SA has the same trouble as the other states.

What's the alternative?

The Liberals locked people out of the entire state meanwhile the Greens are too narrowly focused for most. That leaves Labor.

Same problem as Victoria. No matter what anyone thinks of Labor, what alternative do they really have?

My view - scrap the Liberal party completely, burn it to the ground, and form a new party that's financially conservative, socially centrist, and which adopts the intended principle of small government - that's about government not interfering in peoples lives without good reason, it doesn't mean simply selling off assets and contracting out the public service indeed those aren't part of it. :2twocents
 
Smurf1976 said:
I'm not at all keen on removing the name ANZAC but on the other hand, politically SA has the same trouble as the other states.

What's the alternative?

The Liberals locked people out of the entire state meanwhile the Greens are too narrowly focused for most. That leaves Labor.

Same problem as Victoria. No matter what anyone thinks of Labor, what alternative do they really have?

My view - scrap the Liberal party completely, burn it to the ground, and form a new party that's financially conservative, socially centrist, and which adopts the intended principle of small government - that's about government not interfering in peoples lives without good reason, it doesn't mean simply selling off assets and contracting out the public service indeed those aren't part of it. :2twocents
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They already have that party.
its called the Libertarian party.
Believes in small government, free speech, is not wedded to the Unions, big business or being told what to do by UN , the WEF, the G7 etc.
Mick
 
Smurf1976 said:
My view - scrap the Liberal party completely, burn it to the ground, and form a new party that's financially conservative, socially centrist, and which adopts the intended principle of small government
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Totally agree that the Liberal Party should be wiped.

When we say "small" government, how small should it be ?

Believe me, I would like small government when it works, but when we see things like what the Banking Royal Commission uncovered , or what Qantas did/is doing to it's customers and staff, or the way corporations are making super profits from essential services like electricity and gas , or the ridiculous increases in house prices etc, etc then I would prefer that the government has the will to step in and solve these problems rather than leaving it to a "market" that has failed on many occasions.
 

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