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Your not going into the surfboard making business, are you? ?


Not at the speed I make them one to two months a board, a proper shaper takes around five to six hours labour total for a standard glass board hand made production line it and its 3 to 4 hours.

Brought 50 lengths of paulownia because that was minimum order size, they wanted to send a pallet load, I just couldn't explain that to the wife :)o_O:oops::)
 
Not at the speed I make them one to two months a board, a proper shaper takes around five to six hours labour total for a standard glass board hand made production line it and its 3 to 4 hours.

Sorry for going off topic, but why are so many boards still glass fibre?

I see heaps of broken boards around my way. Why isn't carbon fibre more widely used? The extra material cost would be a small part of the overall board cost.
 
Sorry for going off topic, but why are so many boards still glass fibre?

I see heaps of broken boards around my way. Why isn't carbon fibre more widely used? The extra material cost would be a small part of the overall board cost.

Could write a book or two re surfboard construction.

These days there are a range of different types fibre glasses (E and S etc) , epoxy's, different blank densities (EPS) and other really strong materials for making sandwich constructs around the foam blank as well as carbon fibre.

Then you still have the old standard PU blank (polly urethane) with 4 to 6oz fibre glass and polyester resin which remain popular.

Why do they break?

Mostly due to price, most are made in Asia often China these days for the cheap labour costs, blanks are often softer lightly glassed but they tend to look the part and are cheap.

Weight, flex and feel are also a big reasons the flex patterns change when you use different materials and are not always accepted stronger can mean less or no flex.

Brands like Sunova are very strong but you pay a premium and the shapes may not suit many.

Here in WA locally made boards tend to be stronger due to the waves and usually good quality, a friend still shapes by hand but his margins are very thin.

Then there is the conspiracy theory (isn't there always one these days) is that the boards are made to break so you have to buy a new one and I dare say there is an element of truth in that..
 
Could write a book or two re surfboard construction.

These days there are a range of different types fibre glasses (E and S etc) , epoxy's, different blank densities (EPS) and other really strong materials for making sandwich constructs around the foam blank as well as carbon fibre.

Then you still have the old standard PU blank (polly urethane) with 4 to 6oz fibre glass and polyester resin which remain popular.

Why do they break?

Mostly due to price, most are made in Asia often China these days for the cheap labour costs, blanks are often softer lightly glassed but they tend to look the part and are cheap.

Weight, flex and feel are also a big reasons the flex patterns change when you use different materials and are not always accepted stronger can mean less or no flex.

Brands like Sunova are very strong but you pay a premium and the shapes may not suit many.

Here in WA locally made boards tend to be stronger due to the waves and usually good quality, a friend still shapes by hand but his margins are very thin.

Then there is the conspiracy theory (isn't there always one these days) is that the boards are made to break so you have to buy a new one and I dare say there is an element of truth in that..
Takes a pretty strong board to survive a big Perth close-out over a sand bar.

I have some scars from that too ;)
 
Waited 2 months for PU glue out of NSW at the same time got 50 lengths 2.2mt x 300mm x 5mm of Paulownia wood out of the Rear Wang Village, Taoyuan Town, Cao County, Heze City, Shandong Province in 7 days, go figure.
It's insane. And I suspect its Australian side.
Who did you order the wood through?
 
Also, there was a Pawlonia plantation up around Cataby IIRC @IFocus.

Is that still there.... Or whatever happened to that?


Yes, no idea what happened to that timber tried to find out if it was milled in WA but didn't get far, there is an Australian producer / supplier on the east coast but had sold out due to the NSW lock down apparently every one rushed out and bought up all the paulownia for projects to do during the lock down... criminal these lock downs seriously :)

So hence buying paulownia from the Rear of Wang Village some where in China, the manager was called Smart Lee... what could possibly go wrong, strangely nothing.

Pic of board below using the Chinese paulownia about 1/2 way done
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I wonder if this will get up? Great opportunity to move Australia Post along the Telstra path. ;)
It has a certain feel about it.:whistling:

FRom the article:
Ousted Australia Post boss Christine Holgate is leading a strategic bid by private delivery operator Team Global Express to access the postal enterprise’s “last mile infrastructure”, in a plan she says will boost services including in regional areas.

As Labor considers ways to modernise Australia Post’s services, the chief executive of Team Global Express (formerly known as Toll) has called for the government-owned business to open up community post offices and other delivery infrastructure to third-party operators such as her company.
Last mile is the industry’s term for the sorting and delivery infrastructure which makes mail and parcels ready for delivery or pick-up at post office boxes and parcel lockers.
The plan would include paid access to distribution centres, delivery vans and bikes, locally owned post offices and parcel lockers, as well as Australia Post’s digital infrastructure, including delivery tracking and notification tools.
As letter deliveries decline, parcel volumes in Australia continue to increase, as one in five retail sales are conducted online. Australia Post delivered more than half a billion parcels in 2021-22, helping boost the $67 billion online retail sector.


Team Global Express – owned by private equity firm Allegro Funds since 2021 – commissioned research by Lateral Economics to make the case for open access, finding their plan would provide $1.5 billion in benefits to the Australian economy over 10 years, including a more than $500 million benefit in cheaper delivery costs for households.
She told a federal government consultation round that by blocking private operators from accessing last mile infrastructure, Australia Post maintains an effective monopoly for parcel deliveries.
 
the chief executive of Team Global Express (formerly known as Toll) has called for the government-owned business to open up community post offices and other delivery infrastructure to third-party operators such as her company.
Does this mean TGE will be happy to have their infrastructure opened up for the use of direct rivals?

I suspect not..... :2twocents
 
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