Aussie Mother faces jail in Thailand for bar prank

nomore4s · 20 May 2009

MrBurns said:
Please, please, a clip over the ear is not beating anyone up, losing your teeth was an exageration the point is the police were respected back then not now thanks to Mrs Doubtfire to a great extent here in Vic.

Dont you find a 5 year sentence for a $20 theft barbaric ?

Where do you live ? Iran ?

lol, I know you were talking a bit tongue in cheek but I just found the difference in the statements funny.

While I do think a 5 year sentence for what she did is over the top, I don't think she will receive the full penalty - she would be extremely unlucky if that is what happens.
It is a bit like here where the max penalty for an offence is say 5 years but the offender normally walks away with a slap on the wrist. The law she has been charged under probably doesn't differentiate between stealing a $20 item or a $1,000 item, it is still theft, the courts though will probably not hand down the same penalties for the 2.

Happy · 20 May 2009

Prospector said:
I think I would be making a very humble apology, saying that I was confused and am embarassed at the way I behaved and apologise to the Police for doing their duty. I wouldnt admit that I had stolen the mat, I wouldnt even refer to it.

Just remembered something, that a lot of cases in Australia are quashed because of mental state of the offender, would it work in another country?

gordon2007 · 20 May 2009

Why? What has the US got to do with this? Why why why is the US mentioned in every slightly controversial subject?

I'm hapyy to have a discussion about US the and their penile system, but it truely has no bearing on anything relating to this case. Create a new thread if you want to bash the US on their prison system.

overit said:
Lets start with the US.

Garpal Gumnut · 20 May 2009

gordon2007 said:
Why? What has the US got to do with this? Why why why is the US mentioned in every slightly controversial subject?

I'm hapyy to have a discussion about US the and their penile system, but it truely has no bearing on anything relating to this case. Create a new thread if you want to bash the US on their prison system.

The US penile system depends mainly on Viagra mate.

gg

awg · 20 May 2009

Joe Blow said:
Looks like I got in and removed some posts just before the brawl broke out.

A word of warning not directed to anyone in particular: If you can't debate the issue without personal attacks please don't post.

Now, please carry on... without insulting each other! Thank you!

Damm, they are my favorite bits, and I missed them.

While I was in Bangkok, some people from my hostel went over to Krabi prison ( i think that is the name), to see the Aussies and Kiwis who were locked up.

The idea was to take food, books, money etc.

The guards had to be payed of course

I didnt go, I cant remember why, but gave a lady things to take over.

there is quite a few locked up over there

I am sure they are considering doing a runner from the country, but this would be too difficult and costly IMO, better to get the local lawyers, not that blustering Oz c0ckhead I saw on TV this morning.

I dont know enough about Thai culture to be sure, but in most places a sincere and abject apology, plus appropriate compo, will sort out most problems

rowie · 20 May 2009

MrBurns said:
It was a $20 slops mat, these people dont deserve tourists.

Why isnt there a travel warnng out ?

These people? The woman stole the mat from an aussie bar owned by an aussie. The police report was made by the bar owner, not a local. Maybe the aussie bar in phuket doesnt deserve tourists, only the locally owned ones!

scanspeak · 20 May 2009

Personally I'm sick and tired of the embarrasing, and drunken behaviour of Aussies in foreign lands.
I'm old-fashioned enough to think that when you travel, you are an ambassador for your country. Drunken idiots like her (and her friends) who disrespect foreign laws and etiquette, get ZERO sympathy from me. And what sort of mother gets blind drunk?
A few months in jail would hopefully send a strong message to other bogan travellers.

overit · 20 May 2009

gordon2007 said:
Why? What has the US got to do with this? Why why why is the US mentioned in every slightly controversial subject?

I'm hapyy to have a discussion about US the and their penile system, but it truely has no bearing on anything relating to this case. Create a new thread if you want to bash the US on their prison system.

Lets see we were talking about over sentencing and the country with the highest per capita ratio of people in prison is the US. I think you need to get over yourself. And the ironic thing is your post here has even less to do with the case and you are bashing me... maybe you should create a new thread to bash overit!

nunthewiser · 20 May 2009

scanspeak said:
Personally I'm sick and tired of the embarrasing, and drunken behaviour of Aussies in foreign lands.
I'm old-fashioned enough to think that when you travel, you are an ambassador for your country. Drunken idiots like her (and her friends) who disrespect foreign laws and etiquette, get ZERO sympathy from me. And what sort of mother gets blind drunk?
A few months in jail would hopefully send a strong message to other bogan travellers.

nunthewiser said:
is a bogan and proud

i love youse all

nunthewiser said:
i have been to thailand twice

i got drunk both times

i didnt steal anything nor disrespect any local law enforcement officers

i paid for ALL souvenirs

I didnt get arrested

mmmm moral to story ??

behave yourself and show respect in a foreign country?

getting a lil sick of these blatant biggotted comments about us poor ole bogans

go pick on single mothers instead willya !

gordon2007 · 20 May 2009

Explain where I "bashed" you? Since when is a question a bash? It wasn't even a criticism. It was a question.

overit said:
I think you need to get over yourself. And the ironic thing is your post here has even less to do with the case and you are bashing me...

nunthewiser · 20 May 2009

hahahahahah

thats it ! gunna book another trip to run amok and get on tv!

Prospector · 20 May 2009

rowie said:
These people? The woman stole the mat from an aussie bar owned by an aussie. The police report was made by the bar owner, not a local. Maybe the aussie bar in phuket doesnt deserve tourists, only the locally owned ones!

The bar owner wasnt there when the incident happened.

awg · 20 May 2009

Theres plenty of rogues and thieves in Oz

I was going to add in my post that it works the same hear as well.

Its just that naked bribery is not the accepted way.

but if you f#ck up

you can deny and fight

or apologise, and ask what is required to put the matter right.

I have had to get my cheque book out a couple of times

much better than litigation

ps, u can run into plenty of trouble in USA, even at the airports

Joe Blow · 20 May 2009

This thread is going downhill quickly. If I see one more personal attack or borderline racist remark it will be closed.

My patience is running out...

xyzedarteerf · 20 May 2009

i can't believe this thread has already 1.8k views ..wow..you've been warned folks.

MrBurns · 20 May 2009

I'm bored let's all go over and hang out at the 711 across the road and kick some cans around.

Stan 101 · 20 May 2009

Prospector said:
I think I would be making a very humble apology, saying that I was confused and am embarassed at the way I behaved and apologise to the Police for doing their duty. I wouldnt admit that I had stolen the mat, I wouldnt even refer to it.

The fear, Prospector, is that it may just be too late for all that.

Does anyone know how the Australian embassy in say Singapore or KL would deal with an Australian citizen lobbing up with no passport, and no entry visa for the foreign country?
Are there any penalties for an Australian citizen illegally leaving a foreign country or illegally entering a foreign country in the eyes of Australian law?

As the Australian embassys are classed as Australian soil, would a temp passport be organised to travel back into Australia proper?

cheers?

MrBurns · 20 May 2009

nomore4s said:
lol, I know you were talking a bit tongue in cheek but I just found the difference in the statements funny.

While I do think a 5 year sentence for what she did is over the top, I don't think she will receive the full penalty - she would be extremely unlucky if that is what happens.
It is a bit like here where the max penalty for an offence is say 5 years but the offender normally walks away with a slap on the wrist. The law she has been charged under probably doesn't differentiate between stealing a $20 item or a $1,000 item, it is still theft, the courts though will probably not hand down the same penalties for the 2.

The media will make this worse, wonder what would have happened if they stayed out of it.

Knobby22 · 20 May 2009

MrBurns said:
The media will make this worse, wonder what would have happened if they stayed out of it.

Yes, if it had of been an old balding guy, no one would have even cared

nunthewiser · 20 May 2009

Thai court frees bar mat Aussie: reports
20th May 2009, 17:11 WST

Australian woman Annice Smoel has been released from detention in Thailand and is free to travel home, according to reports in Phuket.

The Phuket Wan website says Ms Smoel, who faced five years in jail for allegedly stealing a bar mat, was given a six-month suspended jail term and a 1,000 baht ($30) fine for theft.

It said the ruling was made at a provincial court in Phuket City on Wednesday.

"The jail term will be stayed for one year and if Ms Smoel does not commit any crime in Thailand for the year, her jail term will not have to be served," the website reports.

The website says her passport had been returned and she would be allowed to return to Australia.

AAP

cool so we all got a green light to go run amok in thailand .thank smole

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