Aussie Mother faces jail in Thailand for bar prank

[nomore4s]

Any law that threatens to put you in jail for 5 years for stealing a bar mat and being rude to the police is barbaric.

Agree, should be charged with offensive behavior, here in Australia as well.

People get away with to much in AU these days, in the old days you'd get a thick ear for calling a policeman a "cop" if you called him a "pig" you would be eating your pork liquefied, through a straw while your new teeth were being made up.

LOL, Does anyone else find these two statements contradict each other?

 

[nunthewiser]

LOL, Does anyone else find these two statements contradict each other?

hahahahah not sayin nuffing . enjoying his rabid rantings

 

[overit]

Yeah and some countries should be nuked then repopulated later with human beings not pig ignorant human mutants.

Lets start with the US.

U.S. prison population dwarfs that of other nations

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The United States has less than 5 percent of the world's population. But it has almost a quarter of the world's prisoners.

Indeed, the United States leads the world in producing prisoners, a reflection of a relatively recent and now entirely distinctive American approach to crime and punishment. Americans are locked up for crimes ”” from writing bad checks to using drugs ”” that would rarely produce prison sentences in other countries. And in particular they are kept incarcerated far longer than prisoners in other nations.

Criminologists and legal scholars in other industrialized nations say they are mystified and appalled by the number and length of American prison sentences.

 

[Knobby22]

Just to clear some ignorance.

Thailand is not a Muslim country.
Their legal system is a lot like ours with similar punishments.
The woman involved stole the towel which was available for sale.
The owner thought she was thief.
She abused and resisted arrest when the police appeared.
She and her friends tried to bribe the police (how low can you go).
She will be very unlucky to spend even one more day day in jail.

This is the biggest beatup ever by some awful sections of the media and is pandering to racism.
I think she is abhorrent.

 

[Happy]

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The United States has less than 5 percent of the world's population. But it has almost a quarter of the world's prisoners.

Indeed, the United States leads the world in producing prisoners, a reflection of a relatively recent and now entirely distinctive American approach to crime and punishment. Americans are locked up for crimes ”” from writing bad checks to using drugs ”” that would rarely produce prison sentences in other countries. And in particular they are kept incarcerated far longer than prisoners in other nations.
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On the positive note, there would not be as many in jail if you exclude african americans, south americans local indians and folk from middle east.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

The drinks are obviously too cheap over there allowing poor people to get drunk and show their bad manners, turn all the establishments into 5 star joints and then only gentlemen of the calibere of gg and mysrlf will be able to afford to go there, problem solved.

I didn't dare mention that burnsie in case the old cuttlefish got his Lowes underdax in a knot. But its true, if one of these countries catered for tourism to decent people to travel to on holidays, not necessarily loaded people like you and me, they would make a killing, excuse the pun.

gg

 

[overit]

I worked in hotel maintenance for 5 years, mostly 5 star here in Oz and I can tell you it pays to be loud and obnoxious. If it was up to me I would turf them out on their ear but the hotel mantra is to keep people happy. We were told it doesnt matter how big the problem is but how much the guest reacts. So if you make a big noise you will get heaps of free stuff and treated much better, just to shut you up. This breeds a bad culture. Reading the daily log was a real eye opener.

The big difference is if you try this on the cops it doesnt work because they are not trying to keep their reputation or your business.

There is a hotel in Port Douglas that I would be nice to the maintenance men. When I worked there if a guest continued to be obnoxious we would wait longer before we turned up. Sometime hours even if we werent doing anything. We live in a twisted society where you get rewarded for being an ass and this should change!

 

[MrBurns]

LOL, Does anyone else find these two statements contradict each other?

LOL no they don't, read them again, or do I have to explain it to you.

We have lax laws here , thanks to civil libertarians who should be locked up

Other countries are too harsh.

 

[Joe Blow]

Looks like I got in and removed some posts just before the brawl broke out.

A word of warning not directed to anyone in particular: If you can't debate the issue without personal attacks please don't post.

Now, please carry on... without insulting each other! Thank you!

 

[Stan 101]

So if this girl is out on bail, what are her chances of getting to Singapore or KL overland without a passport? Cambodia, Laos and Burma probably wouldn't be the best countries to run to.

Plenty of boats around Phuket Island and in the Gulf of Thailand. Would that be a possibility?


What would you do in her situation right now? Would you stay and hope for the best or would you try to make it to another country and seek council at the Embassy?


Cheers,

 

[nomore4s]

LOL no they don't, read them again, or do I have to explain it to you.

We have lax laws here , thanks to civil libertarians who should be locked up

Other countries are too harsh.

lol, it was more that you find a 5 year prison sentence for theft is barbaric but a policeman beating someone up is okay.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

So if this girl is out on bail, what are her chances of getting to Singapore or KL overland without a passport? Cambodia, Laos and Burma probably wouldn't be the best countries to run to.

Plenty of boats around Phuket Island and in the Gulf of Thailand. Would that be a possibility?


What would you do in her situation right now? Would you stay and hope for the best or would you try to make it to another country and seek council at the Embassy?


Cheers,

That is a very difficult question to answer and one I am sure the Smoels may be grappling with.

I've never been to Thailand.

You could certainly do it in Europe, Africa or the former Eastern Bloc of Europe.

I guess the problem would be finding someone to trust.

gg

 

[Stan 101]

lol, it was more that you find a 5 year prison sentence for theft barbaric but a policeman beating someone up is okay.

It is quite a bizarre juxtaposition. And an amusing one.

cheers,

 

[MrBurns]

lol, it was more that you find a 5 year prison sentence for theft barbaric but a policeman beating someone up is okay.

Please, please, a clip over the ear is not beating anyone up, losing your teeth was an exageration the point is the police were respected back then not now thanks to Mrs Doubtfire to a great extent here in Vic.

Dont you find a 5 year sentence for a $20 theft barbaric ?

Where do you live ? Iran ?

 

[Bushman]

Just to clear some ignorance.

Thailand is not a Muslim country.
Their legal system is a lot like ours with similar punishments.
The woman involved stole the towel which was available for sale.
The owner thought she was thief.
She abused and resisted arrest when the police appeared.
She and her friends tried to bribe the police (how low can you go).
She will be very unlucky to spend even one more day day in jail.

This is the biggest beatup ever by some awful sections of the media and is pandering to racism.
I think she is abhorrent.

Well said mate. These Herald-Scum 'yellow peril' stories do get tiresome after awhile.

 

[Knobby22]

Please, please, a clip over the ear is not beating anyone up, losing your teeth was an exageration the point is the police were respected back then not now thanks to Mrs Doubtfire to a great extent here in Vic.

Dont you find a 5 year sentence for a $20 theft barbaric ?

Where do you live ? Iran ?

She's not going to get 5 years.
Australian laws say the same thing. No one ever gets it.
She will probably not see the inside of a prison again and just get fined even though she resisted arrest and attempted to bribe the police.
Stop listening to shock jocks.

 

[MrBurns]

She's not going to get 5 years.
Australian laws say the same thing. No one ever gets it.
She will probably not see the inside of a prison again and get fined even though she resisted arrest and attempted to bribe the police.
Stop listening to shock jocks.

You can only get info from whats fed to us here.

She sounds fairly stressed for someone who's not in deep trouble.

 

[happytown]

So if this girl is out on bail, what are her chances of getting to Singapore or KL overland without a passport?

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I guess the problem would be finding someone to trust.

an aussie employing the services of a people smuggler

mmmmmmmmmmmm

priceless

cheers

 

[Stan 101]

Dont you find a 5 year sentence for a $20 theft barbaric ?

No, considering it can be as much as a months wages locally. If the owner wasn't present and the bar mat went missing, the poor local in charge would most likely have been forced to pay for the mat, be sacked or both. Put into that context and with no social support to fall back to makes that in itself very serious.

The issue is not the theft of a bar mat, though. By all accounts woman's contempt for the authorities is what has caused the issue. With the worldwide news of the Australian author getting a lucky break for insulting the royal family still relatively fresh in people's minds, one would have expected a touch more decorum to authorities. I suppose it comes down to personalities, though.

cheers,

 

[Prospector]

What would you do in her situation right now? Would you stay and hope for the best or would you try to make it to another country and seek council at the Embassy?
Cheers,

I think I would be making a very humble apology, saying that I was confused and am embarassed at the way I behaved and apologise to the Police for doing their duty. I wouldnt admit that I had stolen the mat, I wouldnt even refer to it.