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Another boat,

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/br...cept-asylum-boat/story-e6frf7kf-1226499364571

and more crap from the government.


That, from the masters of policy on the run.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...despite-arrivals/story-fn59niix-1226499411083
 

Doc, the media have turned their attention on the temporary UN seat.

Do you really think they could do two things at once. Now that is what I call Labor strategy. DIVE, DIVE, DIVE, DIVERT, DIVERT, DIVERT
 
drsmith said:
The above boat makes 21 so far this month.

That's more than one per day.
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Well, whatever the Government is currently doing, is NOT working.

As I have said previously, what makes a good leader of any organisation, Government, business and in general, IMO, is to admit that you have made a mistake and admit that it is your fault in the decision making (not blame someone else) and say, 'Look, I've made a mistake, lets go back to what was previously working and go from there'.

Will Labor & Gillard do this, not a chance. Their arrogance is shinning brightly.

Very sad that we have people like this running our country. Bunch of muppets. My opinion only.
 
Are they worth it? Surely we could get cheaper and better immigrants elsewhere. What value does the government see in these illegals, that we pay so much for them?:shake:

The opposition spokesman on immigration, Scott Morrison, pointed out last week that the spending in the 2011-12 financial year averaged $12.8 million for every illegal boat arrival, or $172,700 for every person on board.
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Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/polit...xtravagance-20121021-27z9t.html#ixzz29yfsoLGu
 
doctorj said:
At least something good comes from all this!
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In the broader tax reform context yes (I'll asume that's what you mean), but no good comes from cutting one form of waste to fund another, inparticular when the recipients are not even our own citizens.
 
drsmith said:
In the broader tax reform context yes (I'll asume that's what you mean), but no good comes from cutting one form of waste to fund another, inparticular when the recipients are not even our own citizens.
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How much of the headline number goes in cash to the illegal immigrants and how much is paid to government employees (e.g. Navy) and Australian companies to provide basic services to these people?
 
doctorj said:
How much of the headline number goes in cash to the illegal immigrants and how much is paid to government employees (e.g. Navy) and Australian companies to provide basic services to these people?
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Are you arguing for or against ?
 
drsmith said:
Are you arguing for or against ?
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I'm just saying it's not as simply as having given them cash rather than passing it to poor struggling Australian families. There's far too much rhetoric and emotion around the subject from the media, politicians and even this board for my liking.

I'm quite sympathetic to those that come to Australia, even illegally, in search of a better life. Australia is a lucky country and Australians were lucky to be born in Australia. Most aren't so lucky and we need to get over this sense of entitlement/superiority that we seem to have. This is not to say we should open our doors to all and sundry, but I think we need to do a better job of giving genuine people in need a way of coming to Australia without risking their lives on rickety boats in open seas, without taking too long to do it and with transparency. We also need to do a better job of treating those that do come by boat better - again with speed, transparency and dignity.

'For those who'vecome across the seas; we've boundless plains to share'....
 
doctorj said:
'For those who'vecome across the seas; we've boundless plains to share'....
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The problem with that point of view is it's the taxes of Australian citizens that you want to share and our lifestyle that you wish to compromise to satisfy your soft heart.
 
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