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All religious people want their religion "pure" and isolated or dominant. Doesn't mean it will happen.

That's what a secular democracy is about.

I've heard news when that Sharia Law or certain part of the UK are Sharia enforced areas... it was debunked. And you're not going to find much support from people for that kind of crap anyway.

So while there will be/are cases of really religious refugees who were brought up and want to keep going their harsh religious practices on other people... they will either have to stop that or be forced to stop that kind of violence by the law.

Our parents used to beat us up as punishment. That's what parents do in the old country. They soon stop after we got here - and that's a good thing, we all thought

I now use this "naughty corner" as punishment. Man, tell that to my parents and they'll laugh. But yea, being progressive and spoiling the kids is part of living with infidels
 

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drsmith said:
This could get interesting,

http://aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/ind...stralia/588413
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Mixed stories on the above today,


http://www.smh.com.au/world/sri-lan...her-off-indonesian-coast-20160613-gpi11n.html


http://aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/indonesia-ushers-boat-carrying-sri-lankans-to-australia/588746
 
Another twist,


http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2016/06/13/tamil-asylum-seekers-return-to-aceh-for-fuel.html
 
A further twist,


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...eeking-asylum-Christmas-Island-Australia.html
 
Bill Shorten tells voters he has a united Labor Party and he controls the Labor machine but it is now very evident he has stretched the truth......He now has 50 of his members opposed to boat turn back and he has given into them......Folks you can bet the people smugglers have got their engines running already in hope Bill gets control of Government come July2

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...9/news-story/efd13f081744b0a366993d2bb2bd5c06

LABOR will grant permanent settlement to thousands of asylum seekers who arrived by boat under the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd government.

In the most significant deviation from the Coalition government’s successful border protection policy, Labor would give its legacy caseload of 30,000 asylum seekers, who arrived illegally on 800 boats, a pathway to permanent residency in Australia as part of a policy to abolish Temporary Protection Visas, The Daily Telegraph reports.

The pledge comes as the depth of internal hostility to Bill Shorten’s promise to turn back boats has been revealed, with more than 50 Labor candidates now running for election having formerly opposed the plan.

Labor has also refused to rule out making changes to the hard-line Australian Border Force, or Operation Sovereign Borders set up by the Abbott government to stop the boats.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/fed...s/news-story/e6105eb5fe345d872cbb28a9b9e5e42f
 
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/fede...bb28a9b9e5e42f

Bill Shorten is poised to soften Australia’s border protection policies by granting permanent residency to nearly 30,000 asylum-seekers eligible who arrived by boat under the former Labor government.

The move is the most significant departure made by the Opposition Leader from the tough border protection policies introduced by the Coalition under former Prime Minister Tony Abbott with Labor set to scrap Temporary Protection Visas (TPVs).

This would see Labor providing its own legacy caseload of asylum-seekers with a clear pathway to permanent residency with Mr Shorten also holding out the prospect of making changes to Operation Sovereign Borders.

Immigration Minister Peter Dutton told The Daily Telegraphthat TPVs were a key element of any strong border protection policy and their removal would provide an incentive to people-smugglers to revive their illegal trade.

“Shorten Labor is showing all the signs of recklessness that saw 50,000 illegal maritime arrivals breach our borders under Rudd and Gillard Labor,” Mr Dutton said.
 
The following paragraph in a response to a Daily Telegraph front page article shows how much Labor is struggling internally with the policies that stop the boats that Labor currently claims to support,

Worst, as described above is pretty bad as it gives people smugglers the sugar to market their trade. Politically, it's a gift for the government.

Also interesting is the sentence in bold. It's clear from that that while now claiming to be in lock-step with the government, they see that policy mix as being brutal to refugees more than they do anything else. It further demonstrates their heart isn't in it.

http://www.sbs.com.au/comedy/articl...denies-claims-theyll-show-compassion-refugees
 
drsmith said:
A further twist,

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...eeking-asylum-Christmas-Island-Australia.html
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Further on the above,


http://jakartaglobe.beritasatu.com/...an-asylum-seekers-temporarily-disembark-aceh/
 
If Labor weren't too happy with the front page of the Daily Telegraph, how happy are they going to be with Bill Leak ?
 

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dutchie said:
Labor will not turn back boats.
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With 50 Labor MPs and all the Greens going against Bill Shorten, I would say poor old barnacle Bill has lost control of our borders and the Labor Party......How can he say he has a united party when they fighting among themselves?

Another lie by Bill.....This man lies so much it is a wonder he can lay straight in bed.
 
No Boasts this month?

As 'Who $hit in my pants' Dutton scrabbles for excuses and Morisson implores to the public the 'Nuremberg defence',' I was only following Abbott's orders...'
And Oh no, the holy of holy's ... 'The Australian', Those with access could you please post up the article that describes our detention gulags as the equivalent to the medievil practice of 'heads on pikes'.

Only if you can spare the time off polishing your statue of Jack van Tongeren doc.

there's just a bit of free speech
 
The Malaysia solution as proposed by Labor at the time was a bad deal that would not have worked and nothing that's been said in the past week changes that.

It's now recognised by both major parties that, politically at least, the frontline defence is to turn boats back and it's this that has been central to the continuing success in preventing arrivals by boat as revealed by the latest monthly update released on Friday for July.

http://newsroom.border.gov.au/chann...ation-sovereign-borders-monthly-update-july-2
 

You cannot deny the fact that boat people held in detention are well feed, clothed, get good medication and the kids are getting the necessary education...Compare that with the millions in UN refugee camps who are denied all the goodies they get on Nauru......What is the UN and Human Rights doing about these people in ME?.....They are sure having their 2 pence worth in criticizing Australia.

Those held in detention have been told that will not be settled in Australia......They have the choice, either return to their home land, or settle in PNG or Cambodia....If they cannot make a choice that is their problem...If that is a deterrent to stopping more people smuggling operation so be it.....
 
With the growing populations near to our northern borders there will come a day where no amount of defence will stop people storming across our shores.

Remember after the two world wars our governments back then created employment programs for our returning troops. I believe in these times that a conscription program should be created from our current youth on the dole. With experienced leadership on the ground we could open up huge areas across the top end of Australia. Our new conscrips could then be tasked to supervise the asylum seekers to work and develop this land so that they could in fact feed and shelter themselves. It would certainly only cost a fraction of the one million for each over the last three years that has been wasted. Run the right way, without corrupt private enterprise making a quid out of it, the north could become a permaculture paradise.

Some of the innovative self sustaining systems I have come to see among Greens members properties here at Bendigo are mind boggling.

For the protection that we do need to our north, the answer is to utilise the people and resources just waiting there for free. Instead of arguing lets start pushing objective plans for a win win.

And for those who think the Greens are sitting on the fence with no idea of solutions, think again.
 

There is no way in a million years that the Greens would ever accept forcing Asylum Seekers to live in a particular area of Australia. They would always demand full equal rights with every other citizen. They have already indicated that asylum seekers / refugees being forced to live in tropical countries is a form of torture.

I agree in principal with providing asylum seekers with a degree of protection should they only locate to those parts of Australia that we think need expansion and increased population. But that creates second class citizens. The left would simply not tolerate that and in any case, how could we possibly police it. Most would drift to the big cities where there are already enclaves of people with their same cultural and ethnic values.
 
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