Watching the facts on the ABC insiders this morning David Marr spells out the legal obligations regarding the Tamil boat, if they boarded and removed them outside of our territorial waters then that would be serious.
If any of those Tamils get bumped off by the Sri Lanka's death squads that they have been handed over to then what is it that Australia stands for?
The secrecy that is in place by Abbott is an absolute abhorrence only bad things come from such government practices repeated lies and secrecy what a combination.
Scott Morrison is honoring the arrangement between the Sri Lankin Government and the Rudd Government.
So what is the problem?
The secrecy that is in place by Abbott is an absolute abhorrence only bad things come from such government practices repeated lies and secrecy what a combination.
This is pretty trivial stuff for you to get so upset about FC. As stickler for open government you must be happy that The Royal Commission on Union Corruption will throw the spotlight on the secret complicity bwtween Labor parliamentarians and corrupt union officials. Labor is happy to take the union members' money while turning a blind eye to extortsion, thuggery and the stand-over tactics employed by the leaders of AWU and CMFEU and others.
Have you ever considered being a magician ? Your grasp of misdirection and distraction is masterful.
The problem is that the vast majority coming or attempting to come by boat are economic refugees. This was admitted by Labor's Bob Carr himself.Again you are showing your ignorance. You can't have an agreement with another country that is in violation of your treaty obligations and broader international law. Does the phrase non-refoulment mean anything you to?
Exactly. Really well expressed. Like most bodies associated with the United Nations, the UNHCR is undoubtedly well meaning, but ineffectual.The problem is that the vast majority coming or attempting to come by boat are economic refugees. This was admitted by Labor's Bob Carr himself.
Even David Marr realised it was out of hand under the precious Labor government and acknowledged as much last year on Insiders.
Other western countries will be looking very closely at what this government is doing but the context behind closed doors at least will not be in criticism but in how they can better manage their own border security and that's what worries the UNHCR.
What the UNHCR needs to realise is that a country's immigration program is best managed from within and not from third party people smuggling operations only interested in making a buck, misplaced progressive sympathy or Green ideological dogma against sovereign nationhood.
No nation can solve the worlds problems simply by importing them and hoping for the best which seems to be about where the UNHCR stands. That's just a road ultimately to chaos and one element of that is the drownings at sea that we have already seen. It needs to be much more structured, not lose its way over time and individual nations need to be in control of their own program which is what this government is setting out to achieve.
The problem is that the vast majority coming or attempting to come by boat are economic refugees. This was admitted by Labor's Bob Carr himself.
Even David Marr realised it was out of hand under the precious Labor government and acknowledged as much last year on Insiders.
Other western countries will be looking very closely at what this government is doing but the context behind closed doors at least will not be in criticism but in how they can better manage their own border security and that's what worries the UNHCR.
What the UNHCR needs to realise is that a country's immigration program is best managed from within and not from third party people smuggling operations only interested in making a buck, misplaced progressive sympathy or Green ideological dogma against sovereign nationhood.
No nation can solve the worlds problems simply by importing them and hoping for the best which seems to be about where the UNHCR stands. That's just a road ultimately to chaos and one element of that is the drownings at sea that we have already seen. It needs to be much more structured, not lose its way over time and individual nations need to be in control of their own program which is what this government is setting out to achieve.
What the UNHCR needs to realise is that a country's immigration program is best managed from within and not from third party people smuggling operations only interested in making a buck, misplaced progressive sympathy or Green ideological dogma against sovereign nationhood.
This might all be true but it doesn't mean Australia isn't in violation of its treaty obligations. If the Government thinks the UN Refugee Convention is outdated (which they've certainly hinted at) they should have the balls to withdraw from it rather than remain a signatory while violating it. Indonesia isn't a signatory. Perhaps we can join their august company.
Again you are showing your ignorance. You can't have an agreement with another country that is in violation of your treaty obligations and broader international law. Does the phrase non-refoulment mean anything you to?
Former Liberal prime minister Malcolm Fraser has said on Twitter that Tamil asylum seekers being handed back to Sri Lanka at sea was redolent of handing over Jews to the Nazis in the 1930s.
The problem is that the vast majority coming or attempting to come by boat are economic refugees. This was admitted by Labor's Bob Carr himself.
Even David Marr realised it was out of hand under the precious Labor government and acknowledged as much last year on Insiders.
Other western countries will be looking very closely at what this government is doing but the context behind closed doors at least will not be in criticism but in how they can better manage their own border security and that's what worries the UNHCR.
What the UNHCR needs to realise is that a country's immigration program is best managed from within and not from third party people smuggling operations only interested in making a buck, misplaced progressive sympathy or Green ideological dogma against sovereign nationhood.
No nation can solve the worlds problems simply by importing them and hoping for the best which seems to be about where the UNHCR stands. That's just a road ultimately to chaos and one element of that is the drownings at sea that we have already seen. It needs to be much more structured, not lose its way over time and individual nations need to be in control of their own program which is what this government is setting out to achieve.
Just the minor issue of secrecy by the Australian government as it carrys out violations regarding international law outside of territorial waters and returning people to a government carrying out Extra-judicial killings.
No doubt you and others here fully support this beating your chests about stopping the boats and Labor are really bad blah blah...............what is you stand for certainly its not about open democratic government and the conventions of international law.
Again government by lies repeated ad nauseam combined with secrecy is a lethal mix bad things happen.
Now its started where will it stop?
Read my bolds....Now who is the ignorant one?????
Tough Australian policy fails to discourage Sri Lankan asylum seekers
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"Don't be led by illegal boat operators" warns a government billboard in the country's eastern Batticaloa District
COLOMBO, 29 novembre 2013 (IRIN) - Heightened border surveillance in Sri Lanka, as well as recent agreements between Australia and Sri Lanka to divert and deport would-be asylum seekers, have slashed the number of Sri Lankans reaching Australia’s shores by boat, say Australian authorities. Yet these measures have failed to discourage an increasing number – mostly from the island’s former conflict zones in the north and east – from attempting the dangerous journey.
http://www.hotheads.com.au/immigrants.htm is a must read for those who are ignorant or naive as what is going on with people smuggling.
Indonesia, being a predominately Islamic country, are well and truly involved in aiding and abetting Muslims to infiltrate the Western World and Australia is well and truly included.
The Islamic movements ambition is to have an Islamic state throughout the world and to have world domination.
http://www.hotheads.com.au/immigrants.htm
NOTE: If you arrived at this page without seeing a menu, please click on this link ... Sri Lanka, Malaysia, Singapore and Indonesia, none of which have a policy or track record of persecuting or ... Most of these illegal immigrant people arrive in Australian waters with no ... Anybody who has travelled overseas will attest to this .
IFocus, could you kindly provide a link to the legislation that you are referring to when you say the government is 'violating international law"?Just the minor issue of secrecy by the Australian government as it carrys out violations regarding international law outside of territorial waters and returning people to a government carrying out Extra-judicial killings.
They are arguably violating article 33 of the UN refugee convention (of which Australia is a signatory). As I mentioned before one reason for all the secrecy is the Government probably thinks there's a good chance they would lose if this went to court (the High Court has ruled against the Government on issues related to refugees quite a lot lately).
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