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numbercruncher said:
Once the Liberals get ousted and the education system gets fixed I think we may see improvement in about a decade :)
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You are joking, aren't you!

All we will get is a dumbing down! The Teacher's Union here don't even want to do graded report cards! They are even bucking doing A,B,C ratings in case a child's self-esteem is upset. Yeah, right, far better for their self esteem if they get through their school life and realise they can't read, write or do maths as an adult, or are so far below their peers they are not competitive!
 
Joe Blow said:
ASF isn't just a place to discuss the stockmarket and world events, its also a place of learning. As administrator I am unfortunately exposed on a daily basis to the regrettable spelling and grammar of some of ASF's posters. This thread is my attempt to improve people's literacy levels and consequently improve the level of posting on ASF. Take pride not just in what you say, but how you say it :)
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Great thread Joe :)
 
Nope not Joking .....

A federal Labor Government will fix the problem that Johnny has let fester.


It's time to take some serious action on education.

Let's get back to basics.
Reading, writing and arithmetic are the fundamental building blocks of a good education. If you can't read, write or work out basic mathematical problems, you have little chance of taking part in school – or even carrying out everyday tasks with dignity and independence. Yet too many young Australians are falling behind in the basics. About one in five Year 7 students aren't up to scratch in mathematics and one in ten aren't meeting the benchmarks for reading and writing. The results are even worse for Indigenous children, with more than a third unable to read properly and more than half lagging behind in Maths. Collecting statistics, though, isn't enough. Labor believes we have to give students the practical help they need as they progress through school – we can't ignore the problem and hope it goes away.

A plan that's top of the class.
That's why we have devised the National Action Plan on Literacy and Numeracy, targeting schools, teachers and parents. Labor will fund a year of early childhood education for all four-year-olds to prepare them for school and will bring in a Healthy Kids Check to test the health, development and wellbeing of all children in the first year of school. Individual Learning Plans will then be developed and acted on throughout our children's schooling. All trainee teachers will be tested to make sure their literacy and numeracy skills are up to standard when they enter and leave university. To support parents of younger children, Labor will develop educational material on the value of reading and counting.

Investing for your future too.
For the sake of Australia's long-term prosperity, we have to improve the overall performance of our high school graduates and minimise the number of drop-outs. The only way to do that is to ensure that kids get a solid educational grounding and a desire to learn more. It's not just good for them – it's good for all of us in the long run.
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www.kevin07.com.au/fresh-ideas/education-revolution/building-futures-101.html


And whats Johnnys plan I wonder ? ...... something along the lines of "If you can afford it your kids will get a great education"

Not a very good plan in my humble opinion.


Have a nice day :)
 
Prospector said:
You are joking, aren't you!

All we will get is a dumbing down! The Teacher's Union here don't even want to do graded report cards! They are even bucking doing A,B,C ratings in case a child's self-esteem is upset. Yeah, right, far better for their self esteem if they get through their school life and realise they can't read, write or do maths as an adult, or are so far below their peers they are not competitive!
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We as humans are so bent on possibly uni plus MBA education for every child that this is not funny.

Many human beings will never be able to get to that level without teacher’s union who would advance everybody year after year, with only prerequisite to be present at school – uni from time to time.

As we grow different heights, sizes we grow to different physical and mental ability.

Above all children should be screened and put likes with the likes, so those who show talent in certain area are not dragged down by dumb majority.

Also, too many chiefs is not too good either, even for high intensity enterprise.
 
I was thinking as I typed the post that people would think I was talking about Uni. I wasn't. I am talking about people who emerge from the education system being unable to read, and spell - not University texts but basic books; through either learning disabilities, lack of support etc etc that have not been picked up.

Also, it isn't Johhny's responsibility to fund State Education; it is the State's responsibility. If our public schools are lacking funds, go complain to your State Government, not the amount that the Feds contribute.
 
Well now let's see:

The Teacher's Union here...
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That's Teachers' union here... (I checked their website and am pleased to report that they have their own name correct.)

And whats Johnnys plan...
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That's what's [contraction] Johnny's [possessive] plan...

Nit picking is much riskier than stock picking :)

Ghoti
 
So Prospector, is it one State, in which case it's (is it not, or is it its?) "State's"? Or is it plural as in all "States'".
This is a fun thread. Subtle obfuscation.
P.S. has anyone or any won followed SEA (stock that is), noone or no one, or someone or some one? Who knows or no won/one nose/knows.
 
well, we are lucky, because we can use the grammar spelling checker on microsoft word to correct our mistakes.
so do we need to type on MSWORD and check them before post it in here? wow, sound cool :)
if only stock picking would be this easy :D
 
Buddy said:
So Prospector, is it one State, in which case it's (is it not, or is it its?) "State's"? Or is it plural as in all "States'".
This is a fun thread. Subtle obfuscation.
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Oh dear, I think it might be States'! You see, that is why people do give up sometimes, because it all just gets too hard (from someone who studied English at Uni). And I was trying so hard to get it all correct - so how can we expect people to get it right! :confused:
 
Apparently, at 15 – 16 years of age children have bit of the mess in their developing brains.
This is time when between other aspects, brain start to get ready to lead, to protect, to fight to make executive decisions.

This is famous time when some of young people start to feel the urge to change the world.

Often this time just manifests itself in the mood of being against everything and everybody, except of peers and sometimes tendency toward certain models, be it -

Vegetarian - vegan, Greens movement, Graffiti phenomenon, general vandalism or specialised destruction like arson or stone throwing towards cars for example.

Trick is to steer young minds toward better targets, without them knowing of being manipulated in positive meaning of this word, for own their benefit later on.

Easier said than done, but if parent manages to become partner it is almost too easy.

Just realised I am off topic, but wouldn't like my thought to go to waste.
 
OK Happy, since this is a thread about spelling and language, I think maybe you are giving us a hint about your ethnicity, or what your first language is. Or are you just trying us on? I notice a distinct lack of "articles or determiners" in your sentence structure. Please take no offence at this as none is intended. It gets back to what J.B. started off on - the way in which words are put together and sentences are structured can quite easily change the meaning of what one is attempting to say. And sometime it is impossible to understand what some sentences even mean. All I am saying is that the use of articles, determiners and quantifiers have a strong influence in the english language and how it is interpretted. Have fun with them.:)
 
Buddy said:
OK Happy, since this is a thread about spelling and language, I think maybe you are giving us a hint about your ethnicity, or what your first language is. Or are you just trying us on? I notice a distinct lack of "articles or determiners" in your sentence structure. Please take no offence at this as none is intended. It gets back to what J.B. started off on - the way in which words are put together and sentences are structured can quite easily change the meaning of what one is attempting to say. And sometime it is impossible to understand what some sentences even mean. All I am saying is that the use of articles, determiners and quantifiers have a strong influence in the english language and how it is interpretted. Have fun with them.:)
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Buddy:

Sorry, just couldn't resist: 'interpreted' not 'interpretted'. One of the few words which doesn't double the final consonant when placed into the past tense.

Soon we will have to change the title of this thread to 'For Pedants and Nitpickers'. Fun, though.
 
What is wrong with the following sentence (courtesy the Whittaker McNaught Bulletin)?

Broadly, a Self Managed Superannuation Fund (SMSF) is a fund with less than five members.
 
Julia said:
What is wrong with the following sentence (courtesy the Whittaker McNaught Bulletin)?

Broadly, a Self Managed Superannuation Fund (SMSF) is a fund with less than five members.
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I think that they should say with a maximum of four members instead of less than five members.

Sort of like me asking you to pass me less than two apples instead of asking for an apple.

Thats my crazy opinion anyways :D
 
Julia said:
What is wrong with the following sentence (courtesy the Whittaker McNaught Bulletin)?

Broadly, a Self Managed Superannuation Fund (SMSF) is a fund with less than five members.
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"Self Managed" should read "self-managed"?

"Broadly" should read "broadly speaking"?
 
You both could be correct in that your suggestions would be alternatives to what was actually written.

Still not picking up the actual error, however. Keep trying.

If no one has it soon, I will give a clue.
 
Julia said:
What is wrong with the following sentence (courtesy the Whittaker McNaught Bulletin)?

Broadly, a Self Managed Superannuation Fund (SMSF) is a fund with less than five members.
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Not sure, but I would have written ...

Broadly speaking, a 'Self-Managed Superannuation Fund' (SMSF), is a fund with fewer than five members.

... or is the error in the definition?
 
Julia said:
You both could be correct in that your suggestions would be alternatives to what was actually written.

Still not picking up the actual error, however. Keep trying.

If no one has it soon, I will give a clue.
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phew ahh
(snap wayne ;))
we agree for once lol
 
Ah, well done, CMH/Wayne. This misuse of less/fewer is one of my pet hates.
I'm really happy that you picked it up. Now, if only the journalists could get it right.......
 
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