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Positive Expectancy
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Im just a "hokey" kind of guy i guess
i guess my lack of articulation at times is definately through laziness and often from me getting overexcited and in a rush to get my thoughts on the screen, especially when i read something that irks me.
i DO however have a few problems with puntuation and spelling especially with words like to/too ,their /there etc .i am no rhodes scholar and never professed to be one
but yes laziness in taking the time to proof read my posts and spending the time correcting them would be the major culprit..
however , since being on ASF i have learnt to spell so many more big words
i make no apologies for my typing skills but will try and be a little more concious of my blatant abuse of the english language in the future
other than that
thanks guys for your patience
Im just a "hokey" kind of guy i guess
i guess my lack of articulation at times is definately through laziness and often from me getting overexcited and in a rush to get my thoughts on the screen, especially when i read something that irks me.
i DO however have a few problems with puntuation and spelling especially with words like to/too ,their /there etc .i am no rhodes scholar and never professed to be one
but yes laziness in taking the time to proof read my posts and spending the time correcting them would be the major culprit..
however , since being on ASF i have learnt to spell so many more big words
i make no apologies for my typing skills but will try and be a little more concious of my blatant abuse of the english language in the future
other than that
thanks guys for your patience
No one kin rap baaaad English dese days partly cuz' of de Labo' dominated educashun system and partly cuz' of TV and slack standard's generally. Slap mah fro!
No one kin rap baaaad English dese days partly cuz' of de Labo' dominated educashun system and partly cuz' of TV and slack standard's generally. Slap mah fro!
Combine that knowledge with a positive expectancy trend following system and you can't not fail over the longer term.
It's a cop-out to blame poor teaching for our low literacy standards. While there is no doubt that our teachers (and our teachers' teachers) set low standards, we have everything available at our fingertips to raise our personal fluency in our native language to any level to which we aspire.
It is a matter of attitude. Millions of people in third world and developing countries who are learning English as a second language under adverse conditions can attest to this.
Mr Burns, you obviously ignored what I said, and that is, despite the appalling English teaching standards in our schools, anyone who has the right attitude can raise their level of literacy to whatever standard they wish. And I'm not joking.
Now that I have made this catalogue of swindles and perversions, let me give another example of the kind of writing that they lead to. This time it must of its nature be an imaginary one. I am going to translate a passage of good English into modern English of the worst sort. Here is a well-known verse from Ecclesiastes:
I returned and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all.
Here it is in modern English:
Objective considerations of contemporary phenomena compel the conclusion that success or failure in competitive activities exhibits no tendency to be commensurate with innate capacity, but that a considerable element of the unpredictable must invariably be taken into account.
There is a reason for this. It is difficult to fluidly read someone's idea and expression if one has to pause to interpret the incorrect spelling and grammar often. I find an incorrectly placed their/there for example, interrupts my thought as I read.
Calliope said:Yes it does. But if they don't do it through ignorance, it must be because they are slovenly and lazy.
Tink said:Text messaging and chat/messenger hasnt helped the kids of today, with all these abbreviations they use.
I'm neither lazy or sloveny.
fi yuo cna raed tihs, yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too Cna yuo raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can. i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!
I'm neither lazy nor slovenly.
This has already been discussed, in detail.btw, famous examples of bad spelling ...
there vs their vs they're
Hear vs here
Completely disagree.Some fairly obvious grammar mistakes from one of the reporters of the Tour de France on SBS - I dont think anyone really cares as long as they get the general drift.
Ah, bassmanpete, thank you for saying what I've wanted to say but lacked the fortitude.I'm neither lazy nor slovenly.
Yes I can read this but it slows my reading speed. The same thing happens with the incorrect use of there/they're/their, to/too, no full stops or capitals to indicate end/start of sentences, etc. When pointing these things out in the past on various forums (fora?) I've been told, sometimes with foulest of language (which is always spelt correctly, surprisingly) that it doesn't matter as long as the meaning is clear. I say that it does matter, because what writers of poor English are implying is that their time is more important than their readers' time. That is, possibly hundreds of readers have to take time to interpret what would have been immediately obvious if the writer had shown more consideration and got it right in the first place.
Thank you and good night
This has already been discussed, in detail.
Bless you, Timmy Just hope people read your post.
But by far the most common error (which drives me nuts) is "there" for "their" and vice versa.
Let's just try this: "I am going there".
"They all took off their coats".
Is that too hard to remember?
Another rather curious one was "Here, Here!" as an endorsement of what someone has said.
Does that really make sense?
It's "Hear, hear", or fairly obviously an admonition to the audience to 'listen up' to the wisdom being espoused.
We hear it constantly when the politicians are giving a speech. Their colleagues nod sagely and every 7 seconds say "Hear, Hear!!!".
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