America a Failed State and a Rogue State to the rest of the World

[basilio]

The conversation around the US as a failed state is about how it will come out of the current COVID 19 crisis.
It seems clear that there is no effective plan to continue mass testing and social distancing to control the spread of the virus. We already know the health system is incapable of treating millions of uninsured people who will fall sick. So the questions are :

"What will happen if/when the virus takes hold in prisons, the military, industries like abattoirs manufacturing hospitality ?
"How long will the rest of the world continue to prop up the US dollar as the level of indebtedness spirals up ?"
"How will the US cope with the next normal series of natural disasters while dealing with the virus ? Think hurricanes and floods ?"

We'll see won't we ?

 

[Dona Ferentes]

I see Trump more along the lines of what happened with the late Roman Empire. (Decline and Fall, and all that). Specifically, and here's a name to revel in, Maximinus Thrax (or Gaius Iulius Verus Maximinus Augustus), hailing from some eastern tribe, and first emperor not from the senatorial or equestrian classes (in other words, of low birth). A barbarian, and local tough guy, elevating himself through the legions to a position of military power and bringing along lackeys without any political experience, a supporting faction, distinguished ancestors, or hereditary claims.

While Trump's ascent hasn't been via the military, the methods of rewarding supporters and hating the establishment (elites/ nobility) have marked parallels. As has the putting out of spot fires (China/ Germania) only to have others break out elsewhere. And, worse, Thrax's time is seen as the beginning of the Crisis of the Third Century, when a polarised and feuding Empire, whose institutions had been weakened by usurpers and factional lightweights, shuddered and nearly collapsed.

 

[kahuna1]

WAR ?

To distract ? Despite the virus being of natural origin .... lets go to war ? Lets NOT join the USA.

It is time and overdue that Australia stood on its own two feet. Not suggesting we chum up to China or the USA .... just

Trump speaking seems intent on laying blame and deflecting to both produce fear and racial hatred whilst covering up his actions.

Likely as some have pointed out it will work and Trump 2020 .... after what even prior to CV19 was an idiotic and alarming ride, another 4 years ?

USA seems to think they now after 24 days in lock down they have some immunity.
Given the near record numbers of recorded cases and total infections worse than even Italy its quite the opposite. No herd immunity is possible unless they increase numbers say 10 fold and 1 million dead.

Even then whether CV19 and catching it gives you immunity remains a very real doubt. Is it for life the immunity, or for 3 months ? Is it like the flu ? Just 10 times as deadly and next years strain is as bad as last years horror ?

Gas-lighting and projection are the tools of the seriously mentally disturbed.

I note as per usual Sunday USA numbers on deaths, HALVE .... every week they halve ... then magically rebound in latter days.






USA hit a second record high for new cases during the last 7 days ...

Lets blame China .... go to war with them ...



PS back to work slaves ... we have cut off your unemployment benifits.

Australia thankfully in a very different universe than Trumps delusional world. About 40% of USA will and does accept his word as gospel !!

Today's reported deaths ... USA half 3 days ago ... just like last week !!

Florida and Texas reporting of deaths reaching ... along with Georgia ... absurdities that are 25% of states with far better healthcare systems in the USA.

Sigh .... Its Zimbabwe baby !! Same methods and same propaganda.

I note Trump was on the State Media Propaganda network, AKA Fox News, for this town hall and held ... at the Lincoln Memorial ... rah rah rah USA USA USA ...

 

[tech/a]

You'll never get accurate figures for the US.
Too many agendas.

Millions wont chose to be tested
Millions cant afford to hospitalize.
1000s will die but be recorded as unknown or some other cause.

Adelaide is a back water--pretty glad to be here!

 

[jbocker]

Adelaide is a back water--pretty glad to be here!

...and further along is us in the west. Happy being here too.
In fact I am pretty proud of the nations efforts, it is what we were known for, looking out for each other.
It appears to be paying off big time, but lots more work to do, to get back on our feet.

 

[Knobby22]

If everyone downloads the app we can get the pubs and restaurants back open.
That is how the South Koreans reopened their economy.

 

[Humid]

If everyone downloads the app we can get the pubs and restaurants back open.
That is how the South Koreans reopened their economy.

You talked me into it

Just finished uploading my info and a black SUV cruised past..... suspicious

 

[Humid]

The pubs bit won me over

 

[sptrawler]

The only thing stopping me from downloading the app is, I'm loving the lack of traffic on the roads, it's bloody great.

 

[tech/a]

Just download the app people.

 

[InsvestoBoy]

Adelaide is a back water--pretty glad to be here!

Northern TAS even more backwater, didn't save them.

 

[wayneL]

Such good Proles.

 

[tech/a]

Northern TAS even more backwater, didn't save them.

It was in a known area (Hospital) so could be controlled.
TAS is one of the best states.

NSW VIC and QLD need to be annexed off!


Its Community Transfer which sends it out of control.
The USA has 1000s wandering around
Sweden --well that's another story.

I love the mantra the curve is flattening.
Yeh from a peak of (Say) 1500 deaths a day to 1000 a day
Today, tomorrow, the next day and so it goes.
Yet more states are un protected and miraculously no more
deaths no increase.

 

[basilio]

Why the US may look like a failed state in six months time.

Donald Trump's four-step plan to reopen the US economy – and why it will be lethal
Robert Reich
The president and his allies are hiding the facts and pretending ‘freedom’ conquers all. As a result, more Americans will die
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...d-trump-reopen-us-economy-lethal-robert-reich

 

[joeno]

IMV there is whiff of the Ottoman Empire late 19th Century around the US. A seemingly very powerful force that steadily lost its influence . After WW1 it was toast

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Luckily Ottomans didn't have a huge nuke arsenal.

I see Trump more along the lines of what happened with the late Roman Empire. (Decline and Fall, and all that). Specifically, and here's a name to revel in, Maximinus Thrax (or Gaius Iulius Verus Maximinus Augustus), hailing from some eastern tribe, and first emperor not from the senatorial or equestrian classes (in other words, of low birth). A barbarian, and local tough guy, elevating himself through the legions to a position of military power and bringing along lackeys without any political experience, a supporting faction, distinguished ancestors, or hereditary claims

Trump isn't a tough guy nor someone of low birth. He's a spoiled rich megalomaniac. An utter failure hiding behind corrupt warmongering advisors. He likes to play golf during his spare time and grab women by the p****. The #1 Roman emperor analogy would no doubt be Caligula.

But honestly no Roman emperor or dynasty was worse. Cause the difference is those certain corrupt Roman dynasties couldn't get away with it. They justly fell. But somehow we're stuck with the indignation America will have its way once again.

 

[Rsthree]

Luckily Ottomans didn't have a huge nuke arsenal.



Trump isn't a tough guy nor someone of low birth. He's a spoiled rich megalomaniac. An utter failure hiding behind corrupt warmongering advisors. He likes to play golf during his spare time and grab women by the p****. The #1 Roman emperor analogy would no doubt be Caligula.

But honestly no Roman emperor or dynasty was worse. Cause the difference is those certain corrupt Roman dynasties couldn't get away with it. They justly fell. But somehow we're stuck with the indignation America will have its way once again.

The book I read on Trump, I believe it was called 'Trump Revealed' essentially painted him as a Petty criminal, scammer and bully. Very interesting read, a shocker in fact.

 

[Country Lad]

 

[Joe90]

Why the US may look like a failed state in six months time.

Donald Trump's four-step plan to reopen the US economy – and why it will be lethal
Robert Reich
The president and his allies are hiding the facts and pretending ‘freedom’ conquers all. As a result, more Americans will die
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...d-trump-reopen-us-economy-lethal-robert-reich

Who's next??? You must select a media outlet from the right hand side of this image to maintain a balanced/unbiased outlook for the thread . Mmm ZeroHedge is missing...

 

[wayneL]

And yet, he is rich beyond any of our dreams and President of the most powerful nation on Earth.

Hmmmm

 

[kahuna1]

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Gee why would I quote Tucker Carlson ? Ever ?