America a Failed State and a Rogue State to the rest of the World

[grimsby]

It was blatant passive aggression, not sympathy. That was plain for all those who aren't just scrolling past your posts as most do. If you think you're fooling people on that one, you're fooling yourself.

Take a seat Sdajii, there are many who are really interested in reading what Mark contributes to this site.

Regarding contributions, I bring nothing to this site, I come near to listen to people like Mark who have helped me to see things differently. But, what are you contributing besides some hurt feelings?

 

[kahuna1]

Sadly we are there ...

Another milestone. Its Saturday there so not quite mothers day.



80,000 Americans reported dead ...


I say reported ..

As likely your aware some states are just not reporting deaths. Georgia leads the pack with almost identical infections and a very poor medical system compared to Connecticut ... woeful ... its reporting at HALF the rate ... and 2 ? Seriously ? All week I have watched this and well their numbers, Texas and Florida who admits its NOT recording CV19 deaths instead if their heart explodes via CV19 putting stress on it, its a heart attack.

CV19 was always sadly going to kill people. Governments and what their role is for the common good is to take care of many, not the few, or to give massive tax cuts to property developers during a pandemic as the USA did.

Canada not a great response, sadly, but ... its 10% the size of USA and its numbers if adjusted by a factor of 10 are HALF the USA. So, for me, a benchmark being fair ...



You will note USA is adding cases at DOUBLE the rate of Canada even now.
USA has tested per capita half the rate of the next two nations .... and likely exceeds Spain's grim toll on a per capita basis. Ignore Canada testing levels as they half half the rate of infection of USA yet ... have tested the same per capita.

Yet its back to work. Slaves. Infected or not !! Far out ....

USA in April ...2020

Stocks rose the most in 33 years.

USA had 58,000 'Reported" CV19 deaths in April and the same as the Vietnam war.

Reported the largest rise in unemployment ever, for a month.

Saw the largest ever fall in the participation rate ever .. a trick USA use to mask the actual unemployment rate .. if it was the same as last month headline unemployment would have been 5% higher .. lower the participation rate ... means you dont have to raise the reported unemployment rate.

Rejected or had not processed over 10 million unemployment claims

Reported 14.7% unemployed but with rejected and unable to claim added back in the rate was 27.3% 'worse than the depression !!

Stocks rose 1.9% on the day when this joyful news was released.

President Trump claimed it was expected and not his fault, yes the number was so cooked to 14.7% and fully expected ..... derr ... the department that produces it is run by another stupid billionaire

During April Trump congratulated himself 147 times on how good a job he was doing with CV19 including an appearance by a Zombie called Jarrod at 60,000 deaths who did the same. Sadly they are now 80,000

Trump claimed he was being treated unfairly by the press on a daily basis and then attacked especially female reported of color and abused them time and again.

Of course, I am aware people without a critical thought in their head accept all of the preaching of Trump. Some are my friends and its impossible and futile to change their perception. I personally dont try, its futile. Some believe like VP Mike Pence the world was created in 7 days. So too the lispy Surgeon General and Dr Birx and many others on the CV19 task force.

On any metric, USA has performed awfully.

The Virus is now a political tool. No we will not report deaths, claim we are testing when, well they are not. Expecting factual economic numbers to be reported, when ... its a game ?

I have been following economic numbers for a long time now, 1982 ... as a trainee dealer ... and well these Virus numbers are not economic, rather factual accounts of those who lost their lives.

My own estimates of end of June 2020 and End of Dec 2020 are under threat. Even with rubber numbers fro some states.Reason being the new infections are NOT falling and alarming. So the 128k total likely in trouble. The 250 k by end of 2020 .... due to gross stupidity is an I wish number.

Please expect for USA mothers day .... as they are behind Australia in well , every way .... their Sunday numbers are always very low but for mothers day USA totals will be even lower suspect.

Sigh ... I wish it was not so. To watch a failed state in action. Rogue state to the rest of the world worries me as Trump has all his soldiers and generals at Camp David this weekend so does that mean a war to distract us ? Or just more hot air ? I wonder if the lispy Surgeoun General who holds the rank of Vice Admiral despite appearing never to have served will be there ?

Happy mothers day to all !!

 

[Smurf1976]

Cold gets a mandatory 3 days off. Doctors certificate to be picked up day 1

Trouble is, if the doctors certificate needs to be on the first day off then that brings in the scenario that someone feels crook on Tuesday, calls their doctor and takes the first available appointment on Friday. Meanwhile they're still at work.

I think the whole approach to workplaces and illness needs to be overhauled really. If someone's genuinely sick then they're sick and if it's contagious shouldn't be at work. If someone's abusing it well then management's hands should be less tied in getting rid of them so long as there's clear evidence. In saying that I acknowledge that there's a portion of individuals on both sides who will abuse anything they have a chance to abuse so no easy answer.

 

[kahuna1]

H mmm ...

To put into perspective USA propaganda ...

this is apt.

NZ is ranked 35th ... Australia 4th ... NZ ... behind Brazil number 22 ... Indonesia number 30 ...

UK ... well as much a joke as USA ...
Suspect USA should be ranked below 150 th place near Chad or Zambia.



This data came from this report ...
https://www.ghsindex.org/

Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security (JHU)

A Bloomberg funded pro USA forever place much like the other pet things his ilk support. His favorite charity is of course his old University ,,,, Buffet is abortions for non whites ... Same for Gates.

This Rogue State contempt for all others, pollutes World Bank ... IMF and OECD reports along with credit rating agencies and sadly most other global organizations the USA has not either stopped being a member such as Climate issues or War crimes or Food Aid or United Nations and so on.

Thought this was a decent example of, well, the contempt and disdain white American billionaires and rulers have for any and all.

Trump just congratulated himself on his CV19 efforts 47 times on twitter in a 72 hour period.

 

[kahuna1]

On the above ...

Bloomberg and his, well .... efforts one eyed ...
I dig deeper and no surprise Buffet with Gates Foundation ... and none other than the World Bank the USA controlled and as bad as the IMF ... where USA controls all who are elected via having 16% of the vote and any and all need 85% voting to get senior appointments and with the World Bank the president of the USA must agree to its president. I believe Trumps wife Ivanka almost got the job.

I note Gates has been promoting himself ... more than usual during this pandemic.. and billionaire class of late. Sadly, the best PR money can buy.

Anyhow some members .... of this, well ... index are

https://www.ghsindex.org/about/


GHS Index Co-Leaders

Jennifer B. Nuzzo, DrPH, SM, Associate Professor, Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health; Senior Scholar, Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security

• David Blazes, Senior Program Officer, Surveillance and Epidemiology, Global Health Program, Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation
• Mukesh Chawla, Adviser, Health, Nutrition and Population, World Bank; Chair, UNAIDS and World Bank Global Economics Reference Group on HIV-AIDS
  Scott F. Dowell, Deputy Director, Vaccine Development and Surveillance, Global Health Program, Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation

 

[wayneL]

I'm just glad that I am more focused on my own affairs than some other foreign country which just happens to be our greatest ally.

 

[kahuna1]

some other foreign country which just happens to be our greatest ally.

New Zealand is our greatest and closest ally, by far. Followed by PNG I suspect, a debt we cant repay.

Sorry I didn't mention PNG.

Can we vote for Jacinta next election instead of Mr Potato head ?

 

[Humid]

I'm just glad that I am more focused on my own affairs than some other foreign country which just happens to be our greatest ally.

Read the thread title it explains a lot

 

[rederob]

H mmm ...

To put into perspective USA propaganda ...

this is apt.

NZ is ranked 35th ... Australia 4th ... NZ ... behind Brazil number 22 ... Indonesia number 30 ...

UK ... well as much a joke as USA ...
Suspect USA should be ranked below 150 th place near Chad or Zambia.

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This data came from this report ...
https://www.ghsindex.org/

Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security (JHU)

A Bloomberg funded pro USA forever place much like the other pet things his ilk support. His favorite charity is of course his old University ,,,, Buffet is abortions for non whites ... Same for Gates.

This Rogue State contempt for all others, pollutes World Bank ... IMF and OECD reports along with credit rating agencies and sadly most other global organizations the USA has not either stopped being a member such as Climate issues or War crimes or Food Aid or United Nations and so on.

Thought this was a decent example of, well, the contempt and disdain white American billionaires and rulers have for any and all.

Trump just congratulated himself on his CV19 efforts 47 times on twitter in a 72 hour period.

I went through the index metrics.
How the USA came out as number 1 beats me.
Actually, it's a total fabrication, as the USA comes out ahead of Australia on "health" by ten percentage points - really!!!
Whoever was paid to score the USA must be laughing all the way to the bank.
Nice find @kahuna1.

 

[wayneL]

New Zealand is our greatest and closest ally, by far. Followed by PNG I suspect, a debt we cant repay.

Sorry I didn't mention PNG.

Can we vote for Jacinta next election instead of Mr Potato head ?

Jacinta? Just, no.

NZ are our bros for sure, but despite, like us, punching well above their weight, probably not much use against any real foes. Just a numbers thing

 

[kahuna1]

probably not much use against any real foes

No our mates Kiwis never heard of ... Gallipoli ... Somme ... Tobruk ... just to name a few.

No defeating Hitlers for the first time on land ... was not against a real foe ... Rommel ... according to you. Not sure if they were there at Kokoda ... when the Japanese were defeated first time on land ... but I am sure many Kiwi's were fighting under our flag since we are joined at the hip.

ANZAC stands for some words ... hint the NZ in it.

No we should bow down before the USA .... both of our nations.

 

[rederob]

The USA are masters of double standards.
They also want a myriad of international investigations at their whim but, for example, see how well they go at war crimes when they are in the crosshairs.
Now let's look at their abysmal performance in supporting international treaties - either not signed, not ratified, or signed but later withdrawn:

• 1930 - Forced Labour Convention, not ratified
• 1948 - Freedom of Association and Protection of the Right to Organise Convention, not signed
• 1949 - Right to Organise and Collective Bargaining Convention, 1949, not signed
• 1950 - Convention for the Suppression of the Traffic in Persons and of the Exploitation of the Prostitution of Others, not signed
• 1951 - Convention relating to the Status of Refugees, party to only the 1967 protocol
• 1951 - Equal Remuneration Convention, not ratified
• 1954 - Convention relating to the Status of Stateless Persons, not signed
• 1958 - Discrimination (Employment and Occupation) Convention, not ratified
• 1960 - Convention against Discrimination in Education, not ratified
• 1961 - Convention on the Reduction of Statelessness, not signed
• 1962 - Convention on Consent to Marriage, Minimum Age for Marriage and Registration of Marriages, signed but not ratified
• 1964 - Employment Policy Convention, 1964, not ratified
• 1966 - International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, signed but not ratified
• 1966 - First Optional Protocol to the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, not signed
• 1969 - Convention on the Non-Applicability of Statutory Limitations to War Crimes and Crimes Against Humanity, not ratified
• 1969 - Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties, signed but not ratified
• 1972 - Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty, signed but withdrew in 2002
• 1973 - International Labor Organization Minimum Age Convention, 1973, not ratified
• 1977 - American Convention on Human Rights, signed but not ratified
• 1977 - Protocol I (an amendment protocol to the Geneva Conventions), not ratified
• 1977 - Protocol II (an amendment protocol to the Geneva Conventions), not ratified
• 1979 - Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women, signed but not ratified
• 1979 - Moon Treaty
• 1981 - Occupational Safety and Health Convention, 1981, not ratified
• 1989 - Second Optional Protocol to the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, not signed
• 1989 - Convention on the Rights of the Child, signed but not ratified
• 1989 - Basel Convention, signed but not ratified
• 1990 - United Nations Convention on the Protection of the Rights of All Migrant Workers and Members of Their Families, not signed
• 1991 - United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, not signed
• 1992 - Convention on Biological Diversity, signed but not ratified
• 1994 - Convention on the Safety of United Nations and Associated Personnel, signed but not ratified
• 1996 - Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty, signed but not ratified
• 1997 - Kyoto Protocol, signed with no intention to ratify
• 1997 - Ottawa Treaty (Mine Ban Treaty), unsigned
• 1998 - Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court, unsigned [2]
• 1999 - Optional Protocol to the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women, not signed
• 1999 - Criminal Law Convention on Corruption, signed but not ratified
• 1999 - Civil Law Convention on Corruption, not signed
• 2002 - Optional Protocol to the Convention against Torture, not signed
• 2006 - International Convention for the Protection of All Persons from Enforced Disappearance, not signed
• 2007 - Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities, signed but not ratified
• 2008 - Convention on Cluster Munitions, not signed
• 2011 - Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement, signed but not ratified
• 2013 - Arms Trade Treaty, signed but not ratified
• 2016 - Trans-Pacific Partnership, signed but not ratified
• 2017 - Paris Agreement, signed but not ratified

 

[wayneL]

No our mates Kiwis never heard of ... Gallipoli ... Somme ... Tobruk ... just to name a few.

No defeating Hitlers for the first time on land ... was not against a real foe ... Rommel ... according to you. Not sure if they were there at Kokoda ... when the Japanese were defeated first time on land ... but I am sure many Kiwi's were fighting under our flag since we are joined at the hip.

ANZAC stands for some words ... hint the NZ in it.

No we should bow down before the USA .... both of our nations.

Like I said, bro... Kiwis have always punched above their weight, like Aussies.

But we're lightweights.

 

[Sdajii]

Take a seat Sdajii, there are many who are really interested in reading what Mark contributes to this site.

Regarding contributions, I bring nothing to this site, I come near to listen to people like Mark who have helped me to see things differently. But, what are you contributing besides some hurt feelings?

If he wasn't expressing obvious passive aggression I wouldn't be calling it out. Telling someone to seek psychiatric help is an obvious case of passive aggression, just as it would be if I indirectly accused you of having a disorder you didn't have. It's peculiar to say you enjoy reading his posts when his posts involve such things. Presumably his passive aggression is not what you are interested in reading, so it would make sense that you would agree that he should not post such things and stick to whatever it is of his that you do take interest in.

 

[rederob]

If he wasn't expressing obvious passive aggression I wouldn't be calling it out. Telling someone to seek psychiatric help is an obvious case of passive aggression, just as it would be if I indirectly accused you of having a disorder you didn't have. It's peculiar to say you enjoy reading his posts when his posts involve such things. Presumably his passive aggression is not what you are interested in reading, so it would make sense that you would agree that he should not post such things and stick to whatever it is of his that you do take interest in.

You seem to be suffering a form of compulsive victim disorder.
Would you like to try, at least, to add something to the topic at hand?
How about about the USA now fudging their COV19 figures?

 

[moXJO]

US is both the worst and the best place depending on where you go. Can get shocking racism, or meet some of the friendliest people on earth. Endless homeless and super cheap houses.

The guys that specialize there in their fields are second to none. If I need to go learn from the best it's generally US or Japan. A lot are extremely passionate about becoming the best at what they do. All of them seem to have an interesting story.

I enjoyed the US. Saw some amazing things. They ain't going anywhere soon. And you better hope they don't.

This thread seems like another whinge session about Trump. He's as good as gone in November imo. So cut the b.s. Never seen so many lies. Personally I'm sick of putting a counterpoint to some of these idiotic stories.

 

[kahuna1]

Perspective is a wonderful thing.

Noted, about comments.
Opinion is one thing, facts another.

Whilst I annoy people with strongly held beliefs, I could still be debating the gent about printing money and his quaint view on the topic when I already provided sufficient factual evidence on the topic. Putting it clearer, below is the USA fed cash issued and whilst its DOUBLE 2000 levels so too is the GDP in dollar terms. So of course ... there is more cash on issue than 2000 .... derr ... the GDP was 9 trillion verses 22 trillion. Cash on issue is just over this .... close to 3 times verses 2.5 times ....



https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CURRCIR

I am sure ... I could have gone round and round and round and round with the gent and his opinion.
Possibly still will occur. He still seems to think I am of the opinion were the USA just to print money the currency would not crash ... when I said the opposite.

There is of course MORE USA cash on issue than is accounted for the GDP rising from 9 trillion to 22 trillion in dollar terms ... so if you wished to postulate ones theory, still ... one could. The over and above increase is, well ... again easily taken care of.

What occurred post 2000 ? Well the USA took upon itself to invade 7 or so nations and their currency became mere confetti and USD and dollars took over as the main and preferred medium of exchange accounting for about 300 billion or so more USD in currency to be in circulation in those regions such as Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria.

Either way, 300 billion verses a 22 trillion economy excess dollars issued is, well ... under 1.5% over 20 years so,to me, immaterial. I am not going to debate it ... as that would be silly.

Other things pointed out about me, and whatever .... seriously ? Really ? Truly ?

Okey dokey.

I note that this thread and its contents are NOT designed to annoy, or piss off people. Far right and people of strong opinions seem to have wet themselves and we have 2 other threads, one racists based and another just taking the mickey on the site already.


Expected. I looked at Trumps twitter feed for the first time in months yesterday and he was, well, even more foaming with white crusty bits at the side of his mouth. Reminds me of many on the internet in 2020. He quoted time and time again, the "Daily Caller" as gospel. A network that is owned and set up by Tucker Carlson of Fox news that is ultra far right and low, if not totally devoid of factual content.

To some, this is their world. Gospel.

This virus has become totally political.
In 5 minutes of Sky news the Australian version of Fox being on the other night, the CV19 is just like the flu. Hope the ugly woman is not hit by this flu.

As I am pains to point out, the virus, is a virus .... it has no political agenda other than to replicate.

Debating over the sun and its fate every day, whether it would rise and deny it is going to, is about as stupid.

Clearly some USA states, are NOT reporting deaths correctly. States with the lowest insurance cover like say Georgia reporting abetter outcomes than ones with the best medical systems and Health insurance cover.

Really ? An aside.

Remdesivir the magic drug, I found the results of the trial ... not the two failed ones but the one that now allows it for emergency use and astounding 70% adverse reactions and 30% plus extreme reactions which, well is ... killing you and 10% removed from the study ... the study itself NO control group, not blind tested, people running it had extreme conflicts of interest and the list goes on and on.

There are other drugs being tested that show far more promise, but with the board being Gilead run and an astounding number of people who are employees ... or consultants ... or get paid to speak no wonder this bleach is being tried.

The political agenda is to get USA back to work.

Of course that also is the end goal of this exercise. When its safe.
USA death numbers Sundays always halve and magically so. I note on Trumps twitter he re tweeted WHO guidance that you want under 10% of those tested coming back positive ? Then it was safe.

Boy ... oh boy.

USA right now has say 25% who actually believe its a mere flu and nothing to be worried about. In some ways I do see this, however, they are a danger to everyone and everything.

Refusing to distance, they become plague carriers and well this coupled with the political agenda verses a bloody virus ?

Good luck. I will be building a mansion made of sand below the high water tide mark and see how it fares when the tide come in.

Back with some perspective and its ... not about Trump.
Its not anti American as such, love the yanks ... just not the 1% types.

If I annoy you, upset you ... please ignore me, because with a healthy self respect, I will and do bite back when boundaries are abused.

Just hit the ignore button. Annoyance will be gone.

 

[kahuna1]

Hi,

I keep pointing out the obvious regarding remdesivir, Gileads Magic Drug ... which a secret report was released that claimed it worked to SOME extent, as Trump declared it was safe to go back to work.

NIH ... the body overseeing the study ... the trial run by Gilead ... patients selected by Gilead ... the comments on Lancet via an employee of Gilead .... the doctor backing this doctor up, one that over the years has been an employee or paid consultant going back to 1999 and Tamiflu ... forgot to mention this when he was involved in the Chinese trial ... with 66% plus adverse effects and NO shown positive outcomes.

Anyhow the board ... Government one approving the drug even for emergency use ...

We have 8 with declared interests and PAID Gilead employees

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/panel-financial-disclosure/

Then NOT declared .... two co heads of the board ... is that another 9 ?

https://defyccc.com/covid-19-panel-gilead-ties/

Now the phase one trial ... it failed ... but still they went to stage 2 ... and the Chinese Trial got no positive results already shared that link.

This NEW data of one could call it that ...

Run by Gilead.
NO control group ....
No Placebo group ...
No blind test ... that being the people KNEW what they were getting.
Cherry picked patients.
Picked by Gilead employees ...

On and on one could go.

This political agenda of go back to work to save the economy ... and bugger the human or peasants ... cost.

I have no idea, if this works, but .... the criteria and testing ... if one could call it that is absurd.

Of course contained in the emergency release of the Drug for use, if one reads the fine print, its horrific.

this was the Chinese trial ... showing not much use.


Being fair ....

The lack of a control arm in the study could make interpreting the results more challenging.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31022-9/fulltext

Being honest, I dont think any nation would even think to allow this crap to be even used in emergency use.

A polite ... view on these magic results

https://theconversation.com/is-remd...coronavirus-dont-get-your-hopes-up-yet-137592

The Chinese trial ...
a randomised, double-blind, placebo-controlled ...

The USA one, well ... open label ... and every other protocol abandoned for this narrative about its safe to go back to work.


A decent article about this ... Magic cure ...

all you had to do was read the trial’s exclusion criteria: patients were not even admitted into the trial if they were on a ventilator ...
https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/04/17/whats-happening-with-remdesivir

As for Money Gilead spent on lobbying ? It went nuts of late !! A new record

https://www.npr.org/sections/health...ose-as-interest-in-covid-19-treatment-climbed

Nothing like USA in 2020.

Calling the USA arm of this drug study Scientific or critical ... is akin to using one of Trumps two new cures .... bleach or strong light which alters DNA and well . causes cancer !!

Sadly I was unable to find the article that methodically went through the faults of this USA study ... from no end date or group that just got altered as time went on ... to open label test, so the doctors even knew who got what ... to no control group ... to extreme and absurd conflicts of interest ... having a Gilead doctor select YOU for the trial ...

Meaningless at best, dangerous as a given ...

One simply cannot get any idea of if or how effective it is via the methodology used. It was merely experimenting on humans and well .. so many had extreme adverse events ... that being death ... and 20% were removed I now read from the results and claims this, bleach substance works or improves anything, are scientifically impossible to say, due to lax, if not absurd methodology. The again it costs $100- to make and well selling price is meant to be $4,500 USD per course.

You think I kid ?

https://www.fiercepharma.com/market...-worth-4-460-per-course-says-pricing-watchdog


Seems fair when it costs $100- per course to make .... only 45 times markup when funding for development has been mainly GOVERNMENT paid for ... it was an Ebola drug.

Costs $100 per course to make around $9- a vial .... Bangladesh ... is selling it for ?

The company plans to price the drug, which is given via intravenous infusion, at between 5,000 and 6,000 takas per vial ($59-$71/per vial), Beximco’s Chief Operating

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ng-covid-19-drug-remdesivir-coo-idUSKBN22H1DD

10% the USA price .... hilarious ...

Not sure the global patent is still valid as it was used, and failed for Ebola in 2003. This .... bleach substance.

Back to work slaves.

 

[moXJO]

US has been a crumbling empire for decades.
Once manufacturing is gone and you have such a huge population, it's hard to fill the void. Tech and robotics is also the great disruptor.
Amazon, Google, Facebook some of the most evil companies on the planet.

Every president has so far sucked. Obama was one of the worst in history. The reason US fell so far behind was because of his leadership. China basically sprung out of its box. Putin gained a huge foothold. And all levels of public service were weaponized. He was also a blood thirsty bastard, same as the others.

Trump may be a clown but he got it right on direction.
Stop the US bleeding money in bad trade deals.
Stop endless immigration.
Attempt at least to bring back manufacturing.
Call out the obvious problem countries.
Back off from the idiotic UN.
And the list goes on.
He is also doing a lot I don't like, but it's mostly outweighed by what's needed.
If he didn't come along the western world would be in serious trouble as those looking to take advantage would have free reign.
And that's democrat or republican presidents. The only other one that may have been a disruptive force to the terrible line up is Sanders.
And I say that reluctantly as I'm not a fan of his politics.

Not to sure what's going on with you leftist lately. You are jumping on propaganda being pushed by multiple countries. Fact checking seems to have gone out the window. All in an attempt to take down a clown in Washington?
Accusing someone of lies, while pushing lies yourself doesn't make you any better.

 

[moXJO]

Calling the USA arm of this drug study Scientific or critical ... is akin to using one of Trumps two new cures .... bleach or strong light which alters DNA and well . causes cancer !!

Are you saying the uv treatment causes cancer?

That's not exactly true.