Alan Jones has no shame

[sptrawler]

To be honest, when it comes to things like what Jones said about the PM's father, you can't really apologise. Once it is said, it is said, it can not be taken back and that's the bottom line. Some things are a slip of the tongue or small enough to be a mistake and an apology is perfectly acceptable. But what he said wasn't that, it was a personal attack and he knew what he was saying. It was only when he got caught out that he decided to cover his behind and apologise and try to make it sound better by saying he wanted to apologise to her in person.

When you know he is only apologising to cover his behind, you should be able to reject his apology and leave it at that. I certainly wouldn't waste my time listening to a fool flap his lips in front of me when I know what he is saying is a just a cover up. You might disagree with me, but that's the way I see it..

What a hoot, how can what some guy who talks on a radio be so important in your life. Not being funny, but we don't get Jones over here.
I just can' get my head around, how someone who doesn't really matter can say something and get this response.
Obviously his view or words carry as much if not more than the P.M's
I'm sure if she had said something nasty about him it wouldn't recieve this amount of attention.
Shows how easily the public is manipulated. Fools led by fools.IMO
Lets not focus on issues, better to run a soap opera.

 

[bellenuit]

At least Gillard is showing a bit of sense(at last) and not saying much about it.

I think that is planned tactics rather than just common sense. The PM won't discuss it and gives the impression she is above responding to such insults. However, you can be sure she was instrumental in having her attack dogs Roxon, Albanese, Emerson and a few others out there throwing as much dirt around as they can get away.

 

[Crows]

What a hoot, how can what some guy who talks on a radio be so important in your life. Not being funny, but we don't get Jones over here.
I just can' get my head around, how someone who doesn't really matter can say something and get this response.
Obviously his view or words carry as much if not more than the P.M's
I'm sure if she had said something nasty about him it wouldn't recieve this amount of attention.
Shows how easily the public is manipulated. Fools led by fools.IMO
Lets not focus on issues, better to run a soap opera.

Who said he was important? I couldn't give two rats about Gillard. I'm just saying it how it is when it comes to apologies in that sort of situation. I'd say the exact same thing about two kids in a school yard if the scenario was the same. I'd not force the kid to accept the other kids apology, that's up to them.

I don't even know who the guy is and don't even know what his importance is so I don't care what he says I really don't know why the media get stuck on this sort of thing though, because I sure as heck haven't heard anyone at work mention it, yet they will mention the cute panda at the end of the news... Sure shows you what sticks in peoples minds for longer!

Oh and one more thing; as for the statement "Obviously his view or words carry as much if not more than the P.M's
I'm sure if she had said something nasty about him it wouldn't recieve this amount of attention." I think if things were in reverse and his father died and she said those comments.. There'd be a hell of a lot more media coverage blowing it up simply because she is our PM and well.. I need not explain that one! The libs would milk it just as much as labour are =P

 

[Logique]

Jones was a goose, as the "Harper Valley PTA" were quick to point out. He later acknowledged this and apologized, attempting to do so in person. I don't blame the PM for refusing to take his call.

So it's over to you Bob Ellis, and your some time employer Bob Carr. Let's see the same accountability from you.

 

[noco]

Gillard has never apologized to the the Australian people for her pre-election lies. Her behavior is more contemptible and harmful than Jones's insult. Gillard has insulted all Australians.

I agree Calliope.

Whilst I don't go along with Jones remarks, I can only say if Gillard had been my daughter I would have disowned her long ago.

 

[Knobby22]

turned into a labor bashing thread. It would be nice if some of you could stay on the subject.

 

[dutchie]

turned into a labor bashing thread. It would be nice if some of you could stay on the subject.

Good point Knobby.


(Unfortunately for Labor there is just so much material out there, that its hard to resist bashing them)

 

[wayneL]

turned into a labor bashing thread. It would be nice if some of you could stay on the subject.

Perhaps because Labor have taken a gaffe from one person and assigning blame to another viz, our Tones.

Topic metamorphosis was then inevitable

 

[Knobby22]

Perhaps because Labor have taken a gaffe from one person and assigning blame to another viz, our Tones.

Topic metamorphosis was then inevitable

I think its an ode to the effectiveness of spin (on all sides).

Its amazing how you can hide the forest by throwing streamers all over the trees.

 

[drsmith]

There are a number of fronts upon Alan Jones should have more carefully considered his words.

The Australian can reveal the social media page on Facebook circulated by the club with Jones's name attached as "guest of honour" and "broadcasting legend" was billed as a "public event".

Sydney University Liberal Club president Alex Dore, an aspiring politician with the Liberal Party, denied the event was public. He told The Australian that while the Facebook page was public, "the event was private and guests had to meet some criteria to receive an invite to attend".

"Marshall emailed us and said he was interested in Liberal Party policy and wanted to join," Mr Dore said. "He did not declare himself a journalist and did not use his News Limited email address."

Mr Dore said Marshall also ignored a request at the start of the function for working journalists to declare themselves. Marshall denies any such request was made.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/med...-was-not-private/story-e6frg996-1226487739991

 

[Knobby22]

Pure **** covering.

 

[Julia]

At least Gillard is showing a bit of sense(at last) and not saying much about it. Shame she couldn't have done the same with a 4 corners segment.

She hasn't needed to. She has, as bellenuit has pointed out, had her henchmen falling over themselves to blame it all on Mr Abbott. Much more attractive for her to withdraw into hurt silence which then has those who don't see through her feeling oh so sorry for her. She has a very thick skin and would have dismissed what Jones said instantly for the stupid remark it was.

What a hoot, how can what some guy who talks on a radio be so important in your life. Not being funny, but we don't get Jones over here.
I just can' get my head around, how someone who doesn't really matter can say something and get this response.

Rest assured most of us on the east coast don't listen to him either. However, I gather he has a pretty big influence in NSW where Labor desperately need votes.
Hence the leaping on the opportunity (gee, thanks, Mr Jones) by Labor to fuel the fire and attempt to create an indelible association between Jones and Abbott.

 

[IFocus]

Good point Knobby.


(Unfortunately for Labor there is just so much material out there, that its hard to resist bashing them)

LOL know what you mean, I have Abbott just endless amounts of material

 

[IFocus]

Really good article by Barry Cassidy if anyone's interested

This conversation isn't very good

As if his sordid remark about the Prime Minister was not enough, the responses to Alan Jones left a lot to be desired. Barrie Cassidy reflects on the mainstream and social media warfare.

Alan Jones is close to Abbott. He has been master of ceremonies at some of the Liberal Party's biggest events. He has tried and failed to win pre-selection for the Liberal Party. All known, and all factored in by a public that gets it. It didn't have to be dragged into the conversation with all the subtlety of a sledgehammer.

Abbott's limited liability in the whole matter is that he too, quite publicly and all too often, accuses the Prime Minister of being a liar. It's the kind of political discourse that just a few years ago would not have been tolerated, no matter the circumstances.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-10-05/cassidy-this-conversation-isn27t-very-good/4296232

 

[dutchie]

I have Abbott just endless amounts of material

???

 

[drsmith]

Abbott's limited liability in the whole matter is that he too, quite publicly and all too often, accuses the Prime Minister of being a liar. It's the kind of political discourse that just a few years ago would not have been tolerated, no matter the circumstances.

What a load of rubbish. She's a liar and will be remembered as a liar.

For starters, she lied about the carbon tax and that alone will cost Labor the next election. He can dream, but there's nothing Barry Cassidy can say that will change that.

 

[Calliope]

Cassidy is very biased. If he doesn't like Gillard being called a liar, then the solution is simple...she should ask her to stop lying.

Abbott's limited liability in the whole matter is that he too, quite publicly and all too often, accuses the Prime Minister of being a liar. It's the kind of political discourse that just a few years ago would not have been tolerated, no matter the circumstances.

 

[Miss Hale]

Abbott's limited liability in the whole matter is that he too, quite publicly and all too often, accuses the Prime Minister of being a liar. It's the kind of political discourse that just a few years ago would not have been tolerated, no matter the circumstances.

This is ridiculous, many people are calling Gillard a liar because she is, not just Jones and Abbott. Talk about a long bow. That in no way implies that those who agree with Jones on that point approve of the remarks he made about Gillard's father's death.

 

[Julia]

The government, and its supporters, should consider the backlash against the Queensland Labor government when it was thrown out at the last election. That election campaign was exactly along the lines of what Federal Labor are doing now with its personal and unjustifiable attacks. The electorate has a sense of fair play on the whole and will punish this sort of behaviour.

 

[IFocus]

What a load of rubbish. She's a liar and will be remembered as a liar.

For starters, she lied about the carbon tax and that alone will cost Labor the next election. He can dream, but there's nothing Barry Cassidy can say that will change that.

Hmmmmmm surprised you don't understand the meaning of the word liar but looks like you certainly believe in Abbottliar and his spin.