miner this is my simplistic view on things back then ,much much different now.the jvp knew what they had & the potential of it, but drilling , completions & fracing was guess work & until it was worked out by us or others(conoco,& few more) it was only potential. we are now seeing great results & getting better all over the place.
I agree.MIR......when you have companies like Petrohawk, Conoco, and Pioneer publicly proclaiming how Eagle Ford and Haynesville has or is projected to significantly help their numbers....its the real deal....
When you have Mobil buting TXO to get exposure to on shore USA plays its become a serious proposition..... now BP is allegedly sniffing around ... a lot has changed in 4 years that makes this not potential anymore...its actually happening...... and happening at a rediculous pace...
condog
mobil have been around in a lot from a long way back..
in a very odd way they are directly benefiting from the eagleford
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i think they are fracing all three straight away
so one after the other.. i think exactly 36 days after the 14th of this month the sp will fly up, and all in one day, and be north of $1 and heading for $2
pity you will be selling the day before, (the 35th day) but you will have a nice house..
maybe wait a few months then you can buy a whole town
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agentm,
what is this of Kennedy doubling production? That seems to be a little much considering its already high rates of condensate. Any new word on Weston/Easley?
I see a lot of price targets being thrown around in this thread with no attempt at substantiation. I really hope this thread isn't going back to the bad old days of 2006/2007.
I would like to remind everyone that if you post a price target, you are placing a valuation on a company and you must provide some fairly detailed analysis to support your case. Otherwise it's just ramping.
I see a lot of price targets being thrown around in this thread with no attempt at substantiation. I really hope this thread isn't going back to the bad old days of 2006/2007.
I would like to remind everyone that if you post a price target, you are placing a valuation on a company and you must provide some fairly detailed analysis to support your case. Otherwise it's just ramping.
joe.. totally understand where your coming from..
if harlteys sees the upside of the play at 180 cents then i cant say i disagree other than saying their calculations were done on very conservative estimates.. imho the value of adi will creep into the share as they continue to announce the successes and the play becomes "derisked" by the very cautious aussie investors.. when you consider how many small caps are blatantly misleading their investors with garbage announcements,, the better ones like adi with geologists on the board making the conservative calls throughout, the risk of being misled is minimised..
adi management will keep the value in the share by carefully orchestrating the rapid development of the eagleford/ sugarkane field, and its evident they have not bitten off more than they can chew and are not languishing with phenomenal acreages that is totally unmanageable to a small cap..
my view on hartleys upside is that it is a totally realistic outcome for adi joe....
Does Hartley's analysis @ $1.80 for ADI support the case?
No ramping intended. Just trying to justify ADI value.
Hartleys report 1/2/10
http://www.adelphienergy.com.au/Hartleys Broker Report 1 February 2010.pdf
Their condensate/gas mix assumption is on the dry side.
Specific comment by the company can be found on this ASX release concerning Kennedy. The mix calculates at 258bcpd per 1mmcfgpd and the company comment on this uses the word "expected",
http://www.adelphienergy.com.au/fil...February 2010 - Kennedy Operations Update.pdf
As an alternative valuation, it is possible to speculate on a possible drilling programme, such as that suggested by AUT in a presentation in Aug 2008, or to look at activity in the region (as continuously posted by agentm) and to construct a "what/if" model plugging in figures based on Kennedy actual production per 1,000ft of pay, ADI's presentation on the new design of wells (expected length of new lateral pay), oil & gas prices, tax, royalties, estimated operating costs, and that will spill out a income stream that can be stress tested. Following which, a range of price/earnings multiples can be applied, a presumption that there will be no further capital issues necessary, ad it is then easy to find a credible scenario that would support the Hartleys price on an earnings basis.
In terms of data posted, this must rank as one of the richest chat threads in the cyberspace generated from planet Earth. That is not to say that there are far richer threads in the cyberspaces generated by the infinite number of replica planet Earths that must exist if you follow the belief that the universe is infinite. If, as implied by many astronomers, you take the view that the universe is finite (by calculating the mass of the universe that is implicit) there is then the philosophical question of what lies "beyond" it. That matters not here, however. Taking the view that the universe is finite restricts, as a corollary, the number (unproven) of potential cyberspace threads on which views on ADI may be posted. So, following that view of the universe, I would hazard again the suggestion that this is one of the most data-rich threads in the universe unless you, or someone else, can successfully persuade me that the universe is infinite and can resolve some of the paradoxes that mathematicians enjoy torturing themselves with such as proving that, despite the definition of infinite, there could be an infinite number of infinite universes which, to me, just throws in the towel, and reverts to the biblical account.
Thank you for your attention to my ramblings. Perhaps there is no such thing as 'certainty''. Perhaps everything is relative.
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