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mistamista200 said:Rederbob, obviously there will be bugger all aboriginies who even apply for courses let alone finish them.....whos fault is that?????
rederob said:bunyip
I know you want a reply from Sara and my apologies for intervening.
If you were a Kurd, tell me what your nationality was.
If you called yourself a Slav, tell me what your nationality was.
If you were a Romany (Gypsy), tell me what your nationality was.
Because I was born in Australia I call myself Australian. I equally identify with Irish, and could use my Eastern European heritage to confuse people further.
If I had "Aboriginal" heritage/lineage I would not be afraid to tell people - indeed, I would be quite proud.
Mansel's case is interesting.
White people are keen to forget that we (whites) hunted down and mostly killed off (or banished) the Tasmanian Aborigines.
Those in Tasmania that are still alive and able to identify their heritage should not be ashamed.
You've hit the nail on the head there IMO. I've come across plenty of people lacking formal qualifications who are very much better at what they do than those with a string of letters after their name. Obviously there are exceptions (you wouldn't want an unqualified doctor, for example) but in general this does seem to be the case - those with a genuine interest will do well no matter what hurdles are placed in their way. Those lacking interest will be mediocre at best no matter how well qualified they are.crackaton said:If you find a job/occupation/trade or vocation that you love then you persist with it to the highest level. It's called loving your work and you become proficient and the best in your specialty. These people always float to the top regardless of education or background. If you are unlucky enough to never find this then you just work. You can have a string of letters behind you name but does not always mean that you are good at what you do.
bunyipbunyip said:Rather than speculating as to the reasons behind a persons insistence that they're aboriginal when they're predominately of an entirely different race, let's just let Sarah answer for herself, shall we.
.. and not be discriminated against every time I look at at someone else.
rederob said:mista
Are you into "blame", mista?
If there is a problem, it needs to be fixed.
Some people are working hard on it.
Others want to whinge that we don't get what they get.
Well, I want to live long, not be jailed, not suffer treatable diseases, and not be discriminated against every time I look at at someone else. If I got what they got then all the things I want, I would not get.
Get it?
I'm always proud to say I'm part fijian, but sometimes not so proud of the european half................in the end we are all citizens of the human race.Happy said:What surprises me is why people don’t say (with equal pride) of any other blood in their vanes, sometimes 60% or even 90%?
I can only be sarcastic if say what I think why, so I won’t.
Hi Bunyipbunyip said:I'm another one who wonders why people with only a small percentage of aboriginal blood insist on calling themselves aboriginal. Activist Nigel Mansel was a case in point. Blond hair, blue eyes, 90% white by the look of him, yet he insisted he was aboriginal.
If I had a dog that looked like a bull terrier, and both its parents were bull terriers, but its great grandfather was a labrador cross, I can't see any good reason for calling the dog a labrador. Particulary if it overwhelmingly shows the features of a bull terrier.
I look forward to hearing Sara's responses from the people at her meeting. But in the meantime Sara, I'd like to hear your personal response.
Although I've never seen you, I presume you have at least 50% European blood and that in looks you resemble a European as much as you resemble an aboriginal. If this is in fact the case, why is it that you call yourself aboriginal?
Please ignore this question if your lineage is more than 50% aboriginal and you exhibit aboriginal features.
Please don't see my questions as nosey or critical, or an attempt to 'put you on the line', so to speak. I really am interested in knowing why some people call themselves aboriginal when in fact they show a predominance of European features.
Bunyip
sarahmeehan3 said:I think most replies I have read is in fact an indication of what many white Australians think about us Aboriginals.
Before any of you make any more comments may I suggest that you visit an Aboriginal centre or township and see for yourselves what the living standards are.
Abbott says Indigenous communities must do more
Federal Health Minister Tony Abbott says Aboriginal communities in South Australia's far north should do more to help themselves.
He has just finished a three-day tour of Aboriginal communities in central Australia to see how things have changed since he was there last year.
Mr Abbott says while the Government has made some steps forward, it is the members of the communities themselves who need to improve.
"You don't change a culture of dysfunction overnight or even in 12 months and the Government is expected to provide just about everything," he said.
"We do need to do more, but one of the things that we also have to do is to try to get the local people to take more responsibility as well.
"It's very important ... that the parents do more to make sure the kids go to school and the adults do more to make sure that people show up to the community employment development projects."
Friday, July 14, 2006.
No arrests made over Indigenous abuse
Northern Territory Police say they have been unable to make any arrests in relation to allegations of child sexual abuse in central Australian Aboriginal communities, despite having interviewed almost 300 people.
A police and Department of Family and Community Services task force was formed three weeks ago, following allegations of children being forced to trade sex for petrol at the Mutijulu community near Uluru.
Detective Superintendent Colleen Gwynne says it has reviewed allegations going back four years.
She says while investigations are continuing across the Northern Territory, South Australia and Western Australia, no arrests have been made.
"At this stage, we have been unable to really uncover any direct evidence that indicates that that particular person who was named by a lot of the media outlets was involved in child sexual abuse," he said.
"He certainly is mentioned but not directly in relation to sexual abuse of children."
Happy said:Some possibilities
- False allegations
- Conspiracy driven by fear or resentment
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