Aboriginal?

I thought it was a Labour Govt in the NT, I know it was National/Lib for while but I thought they had a Labour Govt the last 2 terms.

Seems odd that a Labour guy would criticise his own party ?

Could someone from NT comment please.

All of this thrashing about on political and racial lines...
Unless you can give people hope and meaning in their lives there will always be problems....white,black or purple
Anybody want to be constructive ?

‘Unless you can give people hope and meaning in their lives there will always be problems’

This comment is out of place in this great place - Australia, of course unless one has to be given happiness and everything else on silver plater.

Whats really horrible is my sons first experience with the aboriginal people.....it was at our local heated swimming pool and there was a convention centre next to the pool that was having a christian born again rally and some bus loads came from interstate to Melbourne and the group of aboriginals visited the pool from the convention center and about 6 or 7 times the pool had to be cleared of people, not only one of the swimming pools but also the hydro pool and the the spa pool...because for some reason they did not wish to use the toilet so they would just cr*p in the pool and the kids white kids, indian kids and sri lankans had to come out and they (abbo's)visitors had to be warned to swim with bathers on as even up to the age of i think 12 the girls were not wearing any thing....they were doing bombs in the elderly hydro pool and spa pool and would not obey the instructions and would tell the life guards "this my land" and when i asked my son who was only 5 at the time who do u think were doing the turds in the pool he just took one guess....what a terrible first off experience for him..

The next one was our trip from to Ayers Rock and Darwin where he got his second experience of them stripping broken down cars from the side of the road and numerous times of them running at you in the middle of the high way from Port Agusta to central Australia and the only way you could stop them was to speed up and just keep going...he also asked about why they have paddlocks on the fuel bowsers.....and saying dad why is it every time we stop at a service station if there is an aboriginal there they ask for ciggerates and money??? My response was just blame the labor party son as they encourage it....

Looks like the government is gonna give em some more firewood and some more white goods to wreck......in a few years we will see the houses or whats left of em on the front page of the Australian newspaper tellin us to come clean up and foot the bill again.......wat another joke


http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,19248998%5E662,00.html

Indigenous issue incites bitter clash
Michael Harvey and Ben Packham
25may06

LABOR MPs were accused of blaming Aboriginal violence on poor housing yesterday as efforts to tackle indigenous lawlessness descended into ugly point-scoring.






Indigenous Affairs Minister Mal Brough drew attention to overcrowding in the strife-torn Northern Territory community of Wadeye, where people live up to 25 a house.
"This Government does not for one minute suggest that housing is adequate -- we say that it is not an excuse to rape a child," Mr Brough told Parliament during a fiery exchange with Labor MPs.

The comment enraged the Opposition, who believed the minister was accusing them

of condoning violence and child abuse.

ALP frontbencher and chief parliamentary tactician Julia Gillard described the onslaught as a "disgrace".

"No member of the Opposition has ever or would ever say something like that," she said.

When the minister refused to back down, Ms Gillard later questioned his manhood. "The minister wasn't man enough to withdraw these inflammatory remarks and his gestures at the Opposition," she said.

The clash overshadowed fresh attempts by the Northern Territory Government to restore order to Wadeye, where gang violence has left hundreds of people homeless.

NT Chief Minister Clare Martin announced an increase in Wadeye's police numbers from six to eight, with a promise of more if necessary.

Ms Martin also appointed a recently retired public servant to co-ordinate reconstruction efforts in Wadeye -- a move mirroring ex-Defence chief Peter Cosgrove's rescue mission in Innisfail after Cyclone Larry.

Happy ...you seem so have given these matters a lot of thought....can you tell me why depression is prevalent in Australian society ?

Robert,
Not sure if this is hook to get me hanged, but I take your question as genuine.

With motto: ‘you can be what you want to be’
(Which makes me laugh and I give example of person 60 cm tall at the age of 20 trying to play in NBA = not gonna happen if you ask me), but there is some merit in quote.

But question was why, well my probably simplistic answer is:
Lack of discipline
No need to do anything, we have 3 or now 4 generations of unemployable people who manage to get by with Government assistance.
Massive experimentation and abuse of substances.

(Alcohol alone is depressant so is marichuana, not sure about petrol, paint, ICE, LSD, cocaine, heroine and long list of substances that I don’t know or don’t remember.)

Why, people use it? Because they can.
Boredom, lack of interest in life, no fear of consequences.

Lets remember that people can find meaningful activities (if they choose and want) even facing death in 1 by 1 metre cage, as we learned during recent famous interview.

If your question was asked to ridicule me, well, back to you.

No Happy it was not to ridicule you but ...by the same token surely depression is also redundant in the land of opportunity (Australia).You harshly judge others,by your or our standards,when we have no little idea what it is like to walk in another man's shoes.
On a lighter note for Analyst...are you sure that it was not one of your own children that launched the blind mullet...

robert toms said:

No Happy it was not to ridicule you but ...by the same token surely depression is also redundant in the land of opportunity (Australia).You harshly judge others,by your or our standards,when we have no little idea what it is like to walk in another man's shoes.
On a lighter note for Analyst...are you sure that it was not one of your own children that launched the blind mullet...

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Robert Toms can you improve your phraseology when you post in future :

Bob.

I was told once (years ago) that the cut off was 1/16 to be considered aboriginal by the government.

FXST01 said:

I was told once (years ago) that the cut off was 1/16 to be considered aboriginal by the government.

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Why not say, I think I am.
Bet you can get away with it !

Bob.

A different story:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/arts/sag...ick-white-award/2006/05/28/1148754870316.html

Bobby said:

Robert Toms can you improve your phraseology when you post in future :

Bob.

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Bobby;

Isn't that a bit tough? I've seen worse phrasing than that used by Robert Toms. What he said was understandable. At least there were no spelling mistakes.

Cheers
Julia

As an Aboriginal writer and director I am beyond the politics of flag raising," Enoch says. "Identity is much more interesting than racism. The play is about the future rather than the past. We are the future we make for ourselves not the families that have created us."

Emma,I think he said it beautifully.

Ok if the cut off is 1/16 then how does one prove it??

Id like to give it a go and try and get away with it...

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,19324234-2702,00.html


Aboriginal girl first to face race-hate law
Ean Higgins and Alana Buckley-Carr
June 01, 2006
AN Aboriginal teenager is the first person to be charged under Western Australia's new racial vilification laws after allegedly calling a 19-year-old a "white slut".
Mellissa Blackney - a Caucasian - was allegedly attacked by three Aboriginal females, aged 14, 15 and 21, after they threw a rock at her car, outside her Kalgoorlie home.

Speaking to The Australian last night, Ms Blackney said she did not ask for the girl to be charged with racial vilification but it was appropriate such charges had been laid. "I don't know why they started this racist crap. I wasn't racist towards them," Ms Blackney said.

"One of the Aboriginal women said 'Look at you, you white slut'. Then, they just decided to get physical. When I started to complain they just said, 'Just look at you, you f..king white bitch'."

Ms Blackney claims the April attack was unprovoked. She had been sleeping in her parked car, waiting for her mother to return home with house keys, when the group approached and threw a rock at the Nissan Skyline.

"They were there, laughing at me," the 19-year-old laboratory technician said. "They wanted to damage my car and it's bad to throw things at cars and expect people to be happy about it."

The mining hub of Kalgoorlie attracts professionals who can command big wages in the commodities boom. But a portion of the city's large indigenous population is blighted by social problems.

Ms Blackney said Aboriginal violence towards whites was a problem at certain times in some areas of Kalgoorlie but no more so than some white racism towards blacks, adding that where Aborigines were employed, the problem did not arise.

The modified racial vilification laws came into effect in May last year in response to allegations that Jack van Tongeren's Australian Nationalists Movement was responsible for racist graffiti attacks on Perth's main synagogue and businesses owned by Asians.

Under the new laws, people charged with serious racial vilification offences face up to 14 years jail.

But the teenager can only be sentenced to a maximum of six months detention because of the jurisdiction.

If she was dealt with in an adult court, she could face up to five years imprisonment.

Police prosecutor Rob Taylor said the 14-year-old was originally charged with conduct likely to incite racial animosity or racist harassment, but it required the approval of the Director of Public Prosecutions and was replaced with the lesser charge she currently faces.

West Australian DPP Robert **** told The Australian he would be watching the proceedings with great interest.

"But special conditions apply when you are dealing with children," Mr **** said.

State Opposition legal affairs spokeswoman Sue Walker, a supporter of the vilification laws, said they were modified to ensure tougher penalties for offences involving arson or violence that had a racial motivation. She said DPP-approval was needed on the more serious charges to ensure the intent of the law was maintained. Attorney-General Jim McGinty was not available for comment.

The girl is scheduled to face a hearing in the Children's Court in August.

hahah thats funny as!!!! The law was probably made by some do gooder greeny who hates whites! Just goes to show how much racism whites have to put up with in this country!

Lets see a Sydney or Melbourne newspaper print it???fat chance......lets see this type of stuff brang up say by Julia Gillard or is it considered customery for half casts and full blooded aboriginals to racially abuse whites??

Novel idea.

For halves it would be more like self-abuse, form of masochism.

mista200 said:

hahah thats funny as!!!! The law was probably made by some do gooder greeny who hates whites! Just goes to show how much racism whites have to put up with in this country!

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Ok if the cut off is 1/16 then how does one prove it??
Id like to give it a go and try and get away with it...

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mista
With all the resources available to you so that you don't look stupid, you still manage to pull it off quite effortlessly.
People that draft laws are, and always have been, the most conservative group of individuals in our society.
As for whites putting up with racism from blacks, the chances are that 99% won't have that experience. The opposite is true for blacks living in "white" society.

As for the second quote and you giving it a go; that's a champion idea! Given you are not too bright, I suspect you will end up in the wrong queue and instead be endorsed as the local One Nation candidate.