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Aboriginal?

J, rewording then, let’s just say it is another strong motivation to teach them English. (and I believe they are working on the school attendance aren't they? - nothing that can be changed overnight incidentally, they have enough trouble getting teachers to go bush to teach in the bigger towns)

Maybe I'm being unfairly suspicious here, but I'd be wary of some accused child molester pleading in court

a) “me no speaka da English – only speak (pick some obscure dialect) ” –
b) in fact “me the only person in the world who speak my dialect”
c) and the case being dropped because there were no reliable interpreters. (which you could infer is happening to a lesser or greater extent in some areas for some court appearances)

That also goes for prosecution - or defence - witnesses obviously, whose story maybe cannot be told because there might not be an interpreter.

PS When I think about it, I'm sure this is a massive problem every day in our multi-lingual court system. Just that I'd never thought of it applying to the Abs before
 

I doubt that there are many who do not understand english. Centrelink, the local pub, motor registries and mining companies don't need interpreters to talk to them.
 
I doubt that there are many who do not understand english. Centrelink, the local pub, motor registries and mining companies don't need interpreters to talk to them.

Just another trick to get away with.
 


I came past this comment and find it hard not to agree with
 
well my friend you gotta say
i wont pay
i wont pay ya, no waaaay
na na why dont you get a job
 


Looks like trick: no interpreter still working, only question what will lawyers think of next?
 
Looks like trick: no interpreter still working, only question what will lawyers think of next?
Happy, Sounds fishy alright. Think I said something similar in #641. (Probably happens with other languages too I guess)

The Palm Island matter is interesting. (Mulrunji Doomadgee / Chris Hurley / Lex Wotton). Wotton has been sentenced for starting riot - 7 years, eligible for parole in 19 months. Still he was reacting to one of his friends being taken to a police watchhouse - only to die there with 2 broken ribs and a punctured lung.

Wotton's family are happy with the sentence (as I understand it), "judge showed wisdom of Solomon" etc - which is admirable imo.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/11/07/2413572.htm

 
 
Wisdom of Solomon maybe. They should look much deeper into police involvement here. Is it a whitewash?

Hurley wants to overturn coronial enquiry.
CHRIS HURLEY APPEAL

Civil Law Compensation claims in the wings.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/new...gee-death-smear/2008/09/05/1220121488412.html

 
How on earth can you be sentenced to 7 years for starting a riot?

You get less for murder.
 
Just found this thread and thought I would share a story. please note that i have not read the etire thread, just bobbys original post.

A number of years back, about 10, I was working for a now taken over supermarket chain in my early working years. There was this girl working there who only worked about 10 hours a week. I asked her if she would do any more hours and she said no. I asked her why, and she replied cause I don’t have to. I am aboriginal and to receive my benefit from the government I need only to work 10 hours per week. I though, ok that’s fair enough, except she was whiter than I! I queried, you don’t look aboriginal, and she replied well I am actually one tenth aboriginal and have a family tree to prove it and was very offended I questioned her aboriginality.

Apparently some distant relative was aboriginal, and then they weren’t even full blooded aboriginal. I found this to be a disgrace that she was classed as and had equal rights to full blooded aboriginals because she could prove a one tenth stake. I couldn’t believe what I was hearing. This girl would never lift a finger more than she had to because she was classed as aboriginal. The sad part is that she was only 16 or 17 at the time so i feel it was fair to say that this attitude was drummed into her from a young age. I also found out later her mum was doing the same thing...

:bier:

blue
 
How on earth can you be sentenced to 7 years for starting a riot?

You get less for murder.
Theory is that the family were told "he could well get life" etc etc
In fact he would never have got life - he was a seriously responsible member of the comunity. But anyway, given those expectations, the family were pleased when the sentence was read out

If anyone is interested, Radio National's Law Report on Lex Wotton is worth a listen (30 mins in all)
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/lawreport/stories/2008/2416076.htm

There is vocal and also a transcript there - I might post some extracts "later". cheers.

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We often judge a group by the actions of a few. And first impressions can be hard to overcome as well.

I work alongside 4 aboriginals and get on really well with all of them, to the extent that we can make jokes that might otherwise be considered offensive or racist.


What is an aboriginal? Well, that is a personal matter of subjective opinion. What do you identify yourself as?
 
It's good to read something positive about a community which has been so vilified in the media. From today's Crikey.com.

 
It's good to read something positive about a community which has been so vilified in the media. From today's Crikey.com.

I recall seeing something like that on TV. Very encouraging to see.

There are a lot of very passionate teachers, many aboriginal trying to get better resources from the system to do that sort of thing.

There are some good aboriginal bands/musicans about. There was one I liked that SBS used to play as a filler of an aboriginal band shot along the beach. I think it was 'Dots on the shells' by Yothu Yindi.

Does anyone know the names of some aboriginal singers and groups?
 


Sooner we (the World) decide to adopt one universal language the better.
I know there is sentimental value, but communication is one of the reasons for many problems.

And we would not have problems like in post #641 and #646
 

Why Safari management has to do anything with race?
 
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