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Aboriginal?

You're presumably not considering a career in social work, then, Jessica?
 
Do governments (State and/or Federal) make money from alcohol and cigaretters re taxes?
Lol - fair point, State would for sure.

But there may have to be limits on the number of casks of wine for instance . (suspect there already is in some localities). And maybe percentage alcohol reduced etc.

This one is totally impractical, but wouldn't it be justice if those who benefitted from selling them stuff for substance abuse were involved in the social repair - whether part time ambulancemen , or whatever.

I'm reminded of what I heard an ambulanceman once say, (assuming I heard him right) - that a drunk is so much more difficult - often aggressive, often extremely sick, long term and nothing you can do till that C2H5OH gets oxidised (?) whatever -

than a drug overdose on heroin for instance, where you simply have to give them a quick injection and it's over and done with. (Not sure about all drugs of course). Not sure about petrol / glue sniffing either

But excess of alcohol is very tricky for everyone. , moderation not a problem. Even with Kava I guess - first drink makes your tongue a bit numb, fifth you start to float, but twentyfifth starts to scramble the brain etc.
 
Interesting story on PM last night re
Canadian Indigenous-run prison impresses NT
yep interesting, moneymajix
 
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Lol, just looking at SBS - 1900 years ago, the city of Timgad in North Africa had sewerage, thanks to the Roman engineers ..

most Aust Ab communities in 2007 still dont

 
Hi 2020,

The sewer was probably built by the residents under the supervision of the Roman Whipcrackers

I don't see any reason why the aboriginals could not have made improvements to their towns, maybe they didn't feel like it.
 
Hi 2020,

The sewer was probably built by the residents under the supervision of the Roman Whipcrackers

I don't see any reason why the aboriginals could not have made improvements to their towns, maybe they didn't feel like it.

Good point, Macca.

I'd also question that there should exist full facilities in aboriginal communities in remote places which are equivalent to highly populated areas.

If I chose to live in some remote area I wouldn't be expecting full services.
 
ok ok - maybe not sewer - maybe clean water though?
All I know is that I wouldn't swap with em.

btw, I think I heard that palm island incident may go to civil court - possibly sueing the police union as well (bit strange) - possibly going on for years to come. So I'll post this for reference.
http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2007/s1958375.htm

Here's todays update :-
http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2007/s1967160.htm
as they say ... "Principles make lawyers rich"
 
btw, here's Kakadu - and there's a rainbow serpent if ever I saw one
Also Uluru and the Olgas (about 25-30km west I think)
Also the Olgas by the time Brett Whiteley has interpreted them
look more like magic mushrooms to me
same goes for the bloke who paid $3.5 million for it , sheesh.
 

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Julia,
don`t forget that,these aboriginals are choosing to live in such areas because they are meant to be living the aboriginal life.Not sure their original way of life requires such things.After all aren`t they exempt from the laws that prevent white people killing protected animals because for them it`s part of their staple diet.
 

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I live in a nice area, and even though there are the odd ATSIC (now defunct) homes spread throughout, the quality is such that an outsider would not be aware of this fact. It is easy to observe that by the way that the properties are maintained and the way that these residents conduct themselves that they hold to a very high standard. 'Living up to their homes' and street so to speak.

I am a great believer that in changing ones external environment it stimulates mental movement.

Cheers
Happytrader
 
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/07/06/1971866.htm?section=justin
 
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/07/06/1971812.htm?section=justin
I guess with enough clarifications and elimination of ambiguity and justifiable misunderstanding , it will eventually become clear what is going on. Process of elimination as they say.

Incidentally, as if NSW can spare police for NT !! - there have been cases where people have been beaten up bigtime ( I think killed, not sure) at the steps of the police station because the stations were not manned.

And incidentally , speaking of booze, I heard recently that there are also cases - sure to be rare - where white hoteliers who double as "contract labour contractors" (to arrange for Abs to work in agriculture) - only employ Abs who are prepared to take credits at the pub (for booze purchase) for at least part of their payment. Maybe others are aware of this practice as well (?)
 
Sucked in...

I have only been in two countries where alcohol was forbidden and permits were required to travel through the country...

Australia (NT specifically)
and
Saudi Arabia

What a joke, pretty much old mate Maximus Russellus Crowe summed it up...

"People should know when they're beaten"

...assimilate or get stuffed, ever consider that no-one particularly wants to subsidise indigenous anything? Why should new mate chinese immigrant pay tax out of his 14 hour day to some lazy aboriginal community determined to drink piss all day, get diabetes and blame it all on someone else..

Aboriginals....the definition of unAustralian
 
old mate Maximus Russellus Crowe summed it up..."People should know when they're beaten"Aboriginals....the definition of unAustralian
Maximus is a stage name mate
as I recall Maximus was given a hard time in the movie, only to turn unbelievable odds around .

telling those Abs trying to crawl out from that plight that there's no hope (when Brough says it's a national disgrace for instance) sounds like something a Minimus would say to me.
 
Here's one critical of the NT's most senior public servant. Best read the whole article. Sounds like Tyrrell is vulnerable to me. The best defence is offence as they say.

Having said that - I'm sure he also makes some good points about the sudden unilateral actions (and confusion caused) by recent federal intervention.

http://bulletin.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=277193
 
http://www.abc.net.au/insiders/
This is great summary of the confusion around last weekend.... (gee but Insiders is a great show !! )

And for an interesting discussion of double standards -...

Go to "the panel discusses the week in politics" - unfortunately no transcript available - click on "Win Lo" to view the video of the guest reporters (under Barrie Cassidy's excellent chairmanship) discussing the Ab question (plus other matters).

there's an interesting moral discussion at the 10 minute mark (approx) - just past the half way point


The panel conclude...
Sounds like not only Abs are going to get some publicity out of all this , and/or that Ab kid's charges will be quietly dropped etc

PS for those interested, Insiders is on at 9.00am on Sunday mornings. (with panel discussion at about 9.30) - bludy brilliant !

PPS as I've said before , you wonder why they have such a disproportionate percentage in jail when things like that happen
 

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