ABC is Political

[drsmith]

More commentary from Malcolm Turnbull,

Speaking on Sky News on Sunday night, Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull said Mallah's appearance could not be brushed off as an "error of judgment" and said there needed to be "serious consequences" as a result of the incident.

"We are entitled to know … who made those calls and why, and then people can draw their own conclusions. It's up to the management and the board to make decisions about it but there certainly should be some consequences to this," he said.

Mr Turnbull also questioned the performance of ABC managing director Mark Scott.

"As you know, I've said, much to the annoyance of some people at the ABC, I've said that I do not believe that Mark Scott should have the title of editor-in-chief because he clearly does not act as the editor-in-chief," Mr Turnbull told his former chief of staff and now Sky News host Chris Kenny.

Mr Turnbull said the debate about government policies influencing potential jihadists was a legitimate one, but not one to be prosecuted by Mallah, who has advocated sexual violence against two prominent female conservative journalists.

"Why on earth would you have this utterly discredited, convicted person, Mr Mallah, why would you have him to be making this point as opposed to someone with real credibility and repute?" Mr Turnbull asked.

"I would have thought this guy is someone you would never contemplate having in a live audience."

Australian Human Rights Commissioner Tim Wilson,

"Over the past week, I have vacillated as a private citizen about whether I go on because I am not happy with Q&A's conduct last week but as Human Rights Commissioner I feel an obligation to go on Q&A and explain what free speech actually means," Mr Wilson said.

Both government representatives are now boycotting tonight's Q&A.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...ge-pulls-out-of-qa-appearance-20150629-gi05cy

 

[SirRumpole]

Both government representatives are now boycotting tonight's Q&A.

Thereby giving a free kick to Labor. Well done bozos

 

[luutzu]

No way I'm defending what Abbott said about the ABC. I'm actually congratulating the ABC for bringing this person into the spotlight and showing us the sort of person he is. Whether that was the ABC's intention is another matter, but the ABC should be 'on the side' of reality and the reality is that such people as Mallah exist and we should be aware of them.

The government's overblown rhetoric indicates, as I've said before, a ideological vendetta against the ABC.

"Heads should roll" is a stupidly extremist statement when our national leader should be taking a calm and rational approach, providing some sort of contrast to the other extremists out there.

They always try to outdo ISIS or something.

You Deash Death Cult, you reckon you can terrorise Australians? I'll show you!

"All a person need to be a terrorist is a knife, an iPhone, and a victim".

 

[luutzu]

Thereby giving a free kick to Labor. Well done bozos

Yea, I'd like softball questions too.

People are either with us or against us; not being with us is just unAustralian.

 

[Logique]

How unpalatable they find it, a little taste of their own medicine.

ABC staffers playing the victim for all they're worth. Not much of a sense of irony though.

http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/

..“Many [ABC] staff have been distressed by the accusation of ‘betrayal’, the inappropriate call that ‘heads must roll’ and barrage of recent offensive headlines and fake pictures featuring ABC staff providing makeup for Isis terrorists and the ABC logo on an Isis flag …”

“I urge staff to stand strong in the face of such intimidation and to maintain our statutory commitment to fearless, impartial and independent coverage,” Peacock, a senior journalist on 7.30, said..

 

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How unpalatable they find it, a little taste of their own medicine.

ABC staffers playing the victim for all they're worth. Not much of a sense of irony though.
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Isn't it the pinnacle of hypocrisy when a News journo accuses his ABC colleagues of bias?

"Here, Pot, meet Kettle. Kettle, this is Pot." comes to mind. Carrying on like kids on a playground.

 

[Logique]

Don't attempt to trivialize this with a straw man argument.

The ABC is the national broadcaster. It has a legal charter to be balanced and impartial. The ABC is funded by taxpayers.

News is a private company, if you don't like their publications, don't read them.

 

[Logique]

Miranda Devine is one of the female journalists that ABC Q&A guest Zaky Mallah is on record as suggesting ought to be gang raped.

His reward - an ABC chauffered appearance on a nationally broadcasted podium, where he could suggest to a Minister of the Crown that he ought to leave the country.

http://blogs.news.com.au/dailyteleg.../abcs_qa_gives_oxygen_to_enemies_of_the_west/

ABC’s Q&A gives succour to enemies of the West

Miranda Devine, Saturday, June 27, 2015

....There is no “other side of the argument” when it comes to murdering innocents, whether in a café in Martin Place, at a gas factory in France, or on a Tunisian beach.

There is no “debate” when it comes to inciting gang rape against two female columnists. There is no grey area, no moral relativity. There is just right and wrong.

 

[jank]

It's there to publish stories and points of view that don't get published elsewhere.

Nope, you are wrong. You should check the ABC's own terms of reference. Even if that were the case, should the ABC give favorable treatment to neo-Nazi's cause their view's do not get aired elsewhere?

The same thing is after happening with the BBC, which even the BBC admit is a problem. They commissioned a report a few years ago about it and their own internal findings gave way to a blatant left wing bias. They have no done anything to remedy the situation though.

 

[Duckman#72]

I heard from a debate on ABC that the guy's against ISIS, that he's always been against them and in his blogs have said no Australian should go, that is, do not join ISIS.

ISIS is our number one enemy right?

There are thousands of respectable, knowledgeable, rational Muslims who could have come on and expressed their anti-ISIS views. Apart from the "thrill" factor why choose this guy, with his bomb threats, gangbang twitter accounts and so on?

Duckman

 

[luutzu]

There are thousands of respectable, knowledgeable, rational Muslims who could have come on and expressed their anti-ISIS views. Apart from the "thrill" factor why choose this guy, with his bomb threats, gangbang twitter accounts and so on?

Duckman

I'm sure the ABC got him on for the shock factor, but maybe it's good TV for someone who, like the question he was asking, would have had his citizenship revoke and banish under the current proposed law.

Anyway, I won't be too hang up on ISIS. They're a terrible bunch of crazies and deserve what they're getting... but given how war and politics aren't exactly about good against evil, given how US General Petraeus did spent some $500 million US dollars buying off the Sunni insurgents during the much glorified "Surge" in Iraq and "won", the Saudi being a close ally, the also crazy but more organised Israeli... it's not going to be a big surprise if they're bought off and won't be so evil if it's more convenient and we want peace with honour and all that.

I mean, look at Iran - not so evil now is it? Not that much of an existential threat to Israel now that uncle sam thought maybe having wars on too many front might not be a good idea, especially when it's a proxy with Russia in the Ukraine and another potentially bigger one containing China in the Pacific - you don't really want to be too occupied with other minor fronts in the entire Middle East and North Africa and South Asia.

Man, there's a bunch of wars, potential clashes between major powers, economic collapse (again), climate change and potential natural disaster of biblical proportion... and we're all shook up over some idiot. We are quite the lucky country.

 

[SirRumpole]

Not a word of criticism from the anti Aunty mob about Mallah appearing on Channel 10's The Project the night after the Q&A show.

Kinda makes me wonder whether this is just another anti ABC vendetta rather than any attempt at a rational debate.

 

[luutzu]

Not a word of criticism from the anti Aunty mob about Mallah appearing on Channel 10's The Project the night after the Q&A show.

Kinda makes me wonder whether this is just another anti ABC vendetta rather than any attempt at a rational debate.

First you brand them as un-Australian, as leftist socialist fabian lynch mob... then you cut their funding. That'll teach the realist among them to get in line real smart.

I still remember watching Fast Forward way back then when they did a skit during the Howard years where ABC was cut to the point where Kerry O'Brien was presenting the news with just a light globe barely hanging and some fabric for background.

Lucky they got Play School paying for most of the stuff.

 

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Not a word of criticism from the anti Aunty mob about Mallah appearing on Channel 10's The Project the night after the Q&A show.

Kinda makes me wonder whether this is just another anti ABC vendetta rather than any attempt at a rational debate.

of course it is.
Abbott is concerned that some sectors of Australia's media are subjecting his irrational scaremongering to scrutiny. Scared that people might see the propaganda for what it is: A grab for ongoing power under the cloak of secrecy and claims of National Security. In reality, it's all about suppression of different ideas that might jeopardise his plans of becoming the Supreme Leader of a White, Catholic Australia, neatly divided in Rulers and Serfs.

 

[wayneL]

This thread is getting ridiculous.

 

[SirRumpole]

This thread is getting ridiculous.

So is the rhetoric from the Right Wing loonies.

To see Tim Wilson , Human Rights Commissioner (WTF ???) who has prided himself on defending the rights (as he sees it) of people to be "offensive" suddenly deciding that he and his right wing cohorts have the monopoly on deciding what constitutes offensive behaviour, is completely laughable.

That man's hypocrisy is blatant, he is someone who ideologically dislikes the ABC and will attack it at every opportunity. He has no credibility at all on this issue.

 

[dutchie]

Tim Wilson owned the ABC and Tony Jones in particular.

Jones continually interrupted his answers, including a snide comment which Wilson rightly called him out on.

 

[chiff]

It was good to see someone different on the panel-an intellectual.(Krauss). He was able to cut through the tit for tat political crap.
There has to be a better standard of debate and conversation somewhere and you will not find it from politicians and their handmaidens.
Politicians trying to drag the debate down to their level for political advantage like "two bald men fighting over a comb"

 

[noco]

So is the rhetoric from the Right Wing loonies.

To see Tim Wilson , Human Rights Commissioner (WTF ???) who has prided himself on defending the rights (as he sees it) of people to be "offensive" suddenly deciding that he and his right wing cohorts have the monopoly on deciding what constitutes offensive behaviour, is completely laughable.

That man's hypocrisy is blatant, he is someone who ideologically dislikes the ABC and will attack it at every opportunity. He has no credibility at all on this issue.

Are you saying Tony Jones and the ABC are credible?......They set up a "GOTCHA" ambush to embarrass the Liberal Party and it back fired......If the ABC and Jones consider themselves legitimate in what they did, why did they apologize and admit it was a mistake?

I think we all know who lost credibility.

 

[MrBurns]

I'm disappointed in Jones I thought he was better than that. The show has lost some credibility now.