ABC is Political

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It was good to see someone different on the panel-an intellectual.(Krauss). He was able to cut through the tit for tat political crap.

Sadly, the not-so-intellectual panelists failed to listen; they kept shouting over him and each other and didn't even realise how ridiculous they made themselves appear. A point well picked up by one tweet that took it as a comment, four kids yelling over each other.

There has to be a better standard of debate and conversation somewhere and you will not find it from politicians and their handmaidens.
Politicians trying to drag the debate down to their level for political advantage like "two bald men fighting over a comb"

That's the saddest part of it. Australians deserve better politicians than the current self-serving mob.

 

[drsmith]

Tim Wilson owned the ABC and Tony Jones in particular.

Jones continually interrupted his answers, including a snide comment which Wilson rightly called him out on.

Tony Jones in his opening statement also blew the free speech defence that he and the ABC are so doggedly clinging to,

On Monday night, host Tony Jones said the Q&A team was not aware of Mr Mallah's "very offensive misogynistic tweet that he put out about two female journalists".

"Had we known [about the tweets], we would have rejected his participation," Jones said.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-30/qanda-zaky-mallah-explanation-lacks-logic-steven-ciobo/6582342

 

[noco]

Janet Albrechsten sums up the ABC in a nutshell.

The ABC have become a radicalized opportunistic organisation who are intent on destroying democracy and the very reason why they are tax payer funded.

Enough is enough with these left wing socialist cronies and it is high time Turnbull and the government took lots of action starting with the replacement of Mark Scott and working down the line.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...420620474?sv=748305ad285ada937557535290d57e90

 

[Tisme]

Tim Wilson owned the ABC and Tony Jones in particular.

Jones continually interrupted his answers, including a snide comment which Wilson rightly called him out on.

Tim must have put his chin out, because sucker punches are Tony's forte. I must watch the show tonight to see what I missed

 

[moXJO]

Not a word of criticism from the anti Aunty mob about Mallah appearing on Channel 10's The Project the night after the Q&A show.

Kinda makes me wonder whether this is just another anti ABC vendetta rather than any attempt at a rational debate.

ABC isn't a commercial station. And they set the ball rolling. You want to explain why ABC should resort to gutter journalism on the taxpayers purse when it is suppose to be impartial?

Here is what the ABC did wrong. They got this guy in for a pure "Gotcha" moment. Some dkhead planning the show thought it was a good idea to not only throw this in the governments face but to destroy this young man in the process. They set this up for fireworks and it blew up in their face. Oh but the ABC walk away and the guy they used well he didn't matter anyway.

Mark Scott is an idiot living with the fairies and the leftards at the ABC have indeed lost the plot. Even on last nights episode Tony Jones was doing his best to point fingers at everyone after a very hollow apology. It was literally minutes in before he was attempting another "gotcha" finger point.

 

[wayneL]

That's the saddest part of it. Australians deserve better politicians than the current self-serving mob.

Actually, no they don't. That's why they have the politicians they do.

 

[sptrawler]

Actually, no they don't. That's why they have the politicians they do.

You are dead right Wayne, politics was about people, who really cared about Australia and Australians.

This has become secondary, now politics is about people, who can recieve massive perks for minimal ability.IMO

Unfortunately it has become the norm, for most walks of life, the media only focuses on politicians.

The reason being, the reporters don't have to put much effort in either, to generate their income if they report on politics.

Australia is like watching "The fall of Rome", everyone has an excuse for being unable to perform, it is someone else's fault.lol

 

[luutzu]

Actually, no they don't. That's why they have the politicians they do.

It's not the fault of the people - they have no choice in the matter.

Who to vote for? It's whoever a bunch of people somewhere decided is electable; What policies is important? What issue should be raise and discuss during elections and thereafter? It's whatever is trivial and selected by the editors in collaboration with the power that be...

You want higher education for your kids? Can't afford it! Live within your means. Your dumb kid in the suburbs won't make it anyway.

You want investment in infrastructure, clean energy, innovation? First sell this, lease that, then public private partner then bail out this and all that.

You want privacy, legal rights like presume innocent? terrorist! ISIS! That Zaky kid on ABC asking question! Metadata! Fight them there so we won't fight them here (some thousands of miles away, skirted by seas and oceans and crocodiles and Queenslanders).

Protest? Marching down the streets?
How's that mortgage going? How will you pay the bills if, say, we lock you up a couple of days, charge you with some new laws and see you in court for a while and you get fired and others are just too happy to take your place because there ain't that much job out there? Be pretty bad wouldn't it? Got rich parents who can bail you out?

But then if the situation is desperate enough, things might change.

With the coming TPP trade agreements, that might happen sooner than later.

 

[Tisme]

I watched the show a little while ago and I think Tim got owned by Tony. Also the idea that boring QANDA a few years back was its hey day is ridiculous, it was all about gay this, muslim this, boat people that, gay that.....

The contrast between venerable Liberal Paul and new Liberal Tim was weak with an obvious pre madeup story about ABC doing wrong because of a "gotcha" moment ....give us break guys you both live of gotcha moments and faux intelligence.

If Paul and Tim weren't groomed on their on song repertoire I'll eat my hat. It was a worse rehearsal than Wayne Swan and his budget forecasts.

The Libs really need to forget about looking for a smoking gun to bolster their polling position. Sure Australians are pretty stupid, but how stupid do they think we are?

 

[SirRumpole]

Here is what the ABC did wrong. They got this guy in for a pure "Gotcha" moment. Some dkhead planning the show thought it was a good idea to not only throw this in the governments face but to destroy this young man in the process. They set this up for fireworks and it blew up in their face. Oh but the ABC walk away and the guy they used well he didn't matter anyway.

So now it's the ABC's job to censor questions that might cause politicians to actually do some thinking in order to answer them ? It's a politician's job to be able to answer hard questions, not the easy ride that Bolt or Alan Jones give the Liberal pollies.

The question was relevant to a current issue. If Ciobo or any other panellist couldn't answer it, that's their problem, not the ABC's.

 

[noco]

So now it's the ABC's job to censor questions that might cause politicians to actually do some thinking in order to answer them ? It's a politician's job to be able to answer hard questions, not the easy ride that Bolt or Alan Jones give the Liberal pollies.

The question was relevant to a current issue. If Ciobo or any other panellist couldn't answer it, that's their problem, not the ABC's.

When will we see Shorten on the Bolt Report?....He has had enough invitations....No guts..no glory....What a wimp.

 

[wayneL]

It's not the fault of the people - they have no choice in the matter.

Pure, unadulterated, Grade A, USDA approved Bull.

Politicians are the way they are because of the way people respond to them and they're so called policies, the stupid tribalism, the voting in self interest rather than the greater good, voting on the basis of personality and so on.

The people have choices, they continuously make the wrong ones.

 

[SirRumpole]

When will we see Shorten on the Bolt Report?....He has had enough invitations....No guts..no glory....What a wimp.

I'd suggest that Shorten would consider appearing on the Bolt report would be a waste of his time, as people who take any notice of Bolt would never vote for him (Shorten), as your good self has more than adequately demonstrated.

 

[moXJO]

So now it's the ABC's job to censor questions that might cause politicians to actually do some thinking in order to answer them ? It's a politician's job to be able to answer hard questions, not the easy ride that Bolt or Alan Jones give the Liberal pollies.

The question was relevant to a current issue. If Ciobo or any other panellist couldn't answer it, that's their problem, not the ABC's.

Why use a guy with his background when it was obviously going to end badly for him. They knew exactly what they were setting up.

 

[SirRumpole]

Why use a guy with his background when it was obviously going to end badly for him. They knew exactly what they were setting up.

So now you are saying that the ABC set Mallah up, not Ciobo ? In which case Abbott and co should be congratulating the ABC !

 

[moXJO]

So now you are saying that the ABC set Mallah up, not Ciobo ? In which case Abbott and co should be congratulating the ABC !

No....
that he was used as gutter journalism fodder to point score against the government, on a taxpayer funded, supposedly impartial program.

 

[noco]

I'd suggest that Shorten would consider appearing on the Bolt report would be a waste of his time, as people who take any notice of Bolt would never vote for him (Shorten), as your good self has more than adequately demonstrated.

Well, Shorten would not get a free reign on the Bolt Report like the biased Barry Cassidy Insiders circus.

Bolt would tie him (Shorten) up in knots.

I would also like to see Shorten on the Richo/Jones show on Tuesday night.....No doubt Shorten would fear Alan Jones as well.

 

[Tisme]

I'd suggest that Shorten would consider appearing on the Bolt report would be a waste of his time, as people who take any notice of Bolt would never vote for him (Shorten), as your good self has more than adequately demonstrated.

And the simple truth of it. Bolt, Jones and coy cater to gossips who feel part of a community of gossips, so they are hardly likely to vote for a political party that is a core target of the vitriol. Any outsider who reads or listens to either of them do so for the curiousity ... like picking a scab.

 

[overhang]

Well, Shorten would not get a free reign on the Bolt Report like the biased Barry Cassidy Insiders circus.

Bolt would tie him (Shorten) up in knots.

I would also like to see Shorten on the Richo/Jones show on Tuesday night.....No doubt Shorten would fear Alan Jones as well.

And I would like to see Abbott on Q&A which is now up to 1780 days since he was last on the show. He will avoid the show like the plague not because of bias but because he can't handle any questions that don't allow him to use his catch phrases. Abbott makes repeated gaffs and the liberals want to keep him as far away from requiring improvisation as possible.

There is absolutely nothing to gain by Shorten going on the Bolt report, it would be a very small minority that might watch the show with any objectivity and he would contribute to keeping this garbage on our TVs.

 

[Tisme]

No....
that he was used as gutter journalism fodder to point score against the government, on a taxpayer funded, supposedly impartial program.

People do have a right to be bigots, you know. People have the right to say things that other people would find insulting, offensive or bigoted.