Australian (ASX) Stock Market Forum

ABC is Political

The guys behaviour has changed over the years.
He is much more moderate. The bad stuff happened in 2005.

Rumours are Abbott is planning an election based on getting Shorten compromised, ABC neutered before Bishop challenges.

Have you read his recent tweets? However, bad as they are, I suspect he is just trying to get attention.
 
you thinking pot/kettle/black too?

Not exactly, tho there's an awful lot of it around. I was thinking more of the increasingly casual way we're all talking about differences of opinion as if they're blood feuds or worse. Not to mention treating young men going through an idiot phase like invaders from a galaxy far, far away. True, some young men don't grow out of being idiots, but careless talk of bullets won't change that.
 
I think the moderators cut noco a degree of slack, due to his service in Tobruk, the Burma railroad(for which the Burmese people are eternally grateful) the Kokoda trail and many other fights defending this fine country.:D

Are you taking the piss?

Clarification is in order, I thought the only thing Noco had done for Australia was unblock a few sewer pipes?

For the record, I have done nothing of note for Australia.
 
Are you taking the piss?

Clarification is in order, I thought the only thing Noco had done for Australia was unblock a few sewer pipes?

For the record, I have done nothing of note for Australia.


Yes I had my early days as a plumber and drainer and I did unblock a few blocked drains and I came across some sewer rats just like some on this forum...Brings me back memories.:D:D
 
Mike Kenny sums up the inadequacies of the ABC and their hatred of Tony Abbott and all conservative governments.

Has it done them any good?....to the contrary they and the Labor Party are far worse for wear.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opi...416972385?sv=4f274c1646e23c3416ba6ce7cbe776a0

Even a jihadist sympathiser and convicted criminal who disseminates public threats of sexual violence against women was given an ABC platform — anything for a gotcha moment against the evil Abbott government.

Given this is the program’s schtick, the studio audience applauded. The mentality at play was brilliantly mocked by the iconoclastic John Safran (whose talent, to give due credit, was unearthed by the ABC). “I’m a man who keeps a woman hostage down a hole,” Safran tweeted, “and dances around in a human skin suit … who hates Tony Abbott! *Q&A audience applauds.”

This time it backfired. Not only did this ugly episode fail to embarrass the government, it actually helped to underline the Coal*ition’s argument for tougher anti-terrorism laws, while also inflicting enormous self-harm on the national broadcaster.

This is the problem with hatred as a motivating force for political strategy; it leads to misguided *decisions. “Hatred is blind,” as Alexandre Dumas warned, “rage carries you away; and he who pours out vengeance runs the risk of tasting a bitter draught.”

As attacks on Abbott become more unhinged, the Left appears more desperate and out of touch.

To be fair, we were reminded of transgressions on the Right this week on The Killing Season when a teary-eyed Craig Emerson recounted his distress at signs labelling Julia Gillard a witch or bitch.

These were placards from a fringe group and Abbott paid a high price for being at that event, even though the signs were moved into place after he took the stage.

There is no comparison to the way the Left invokes hatred in the core of its arguments.

Poor old Craig Emerson shed a crocodile tear for his ex lover Julia Gillard...Emerson, a married man with kids carried on with Julia for 3 years.
 
Are you taking the piss?

Clarification is in order, I thought the only thing Noco had done for Australia was unblock a few sewer pipes?

For the record, I have done nothing of note for Australia.

RESPECT !

Clarification is adhered to.

Me either .... other than lived and enjoyed our freedom of lifestyle.
 
Barrie Cassidy's colors where again on display when interviewing Malcolm Turnbull on Insiders this morning.

Malcolm started the interview very diplomatically until Cassidy made him explode. It was refreshing to see Malcolm take it up to Cassidy and he made Cassidy look like a fool.

The Prime Minister asked the ABC "whose side are you on", when he knows the answer.

The ABC is on the side of anyone (including terrorists) who they can use to criticise Abbott and/or the Coalition.
 
Barrie Cassidy's colors where again on display when interviewing Malcolm Turnbull on Insiders this morning.

Malcolm started the interview very diplomatically until Cassidy made him explode. It was refreshing to see Malcolm take it up to Cassidy and he made Cassidy look like a fool.

The Prime Minister asked the ABC "whose side are you on", when he knows the answer.

The ABC is on the side of anyone (including terrorists) who they can use to criticise Abbott and/or the Coalition.

On the contrary Cassidy tied Turnbull in knots.

He could not answer the question "if this guy Mallah is so dangerous, why isn't he locked up" ? Can't Asio guarantee our safety from this person ?

Turnbull just looked ridiculous and sputtered when Cassidy suggested the guy could just walk into a shopping mall and be the same sort of threat that he allegedly is in an ABC studio.

The whole government rhetoric against the ABC on this matter is an ideological crusade based on nothing more than hatred for a public broadcaster that some rabid Righties believe should not exist at all.
 
Yes I had my early days as a plumber and drainer and I did unblock a few blocked drains and I came across some sewer rats just like some on this forum...Brings me back memories.:D:D

With all seriousness, I did some plumbing for my house and parent's house - Plumbing is one of the most important job in society (and plumbers do act and charge that way too, you bastards). Once finished, those pipes, with the wye and the elbows and P traps, they look like a work of art - especially when all the downpipes stick up perfectly vertical. And the copper... when you heat them right and they glow and the silver just melt to the touch..
 
'You've lost the plot, Barrie': Malcolm Turnbull

Cassidy has not lost the plot - he knows exactly what it is - a gotcha moment against the Coalition (whatever it takes).
 
On the contrary Cassidy tied Turnbull in knots.

He could not answer the question "if this guy Mallah is so dangerous, why isn't he locked up" ? Can't Asio guarantee our safety from this person ?

Turnbull just looked ridiculous and sputtered when Cassidy suggested the guy could just walk into a shopping mall and be the same sort of threat that he allegedly is in an ABC studio.

The whole government rhetoric against the ABC on this matter is an ideological crusade based on nothing more than hatred for a public broadcaster that some rabid Righties believe should not exist at all.

Sometime you wonder how these politician get out of bed in the morning and face the world.

The guy's been charged, pleaded guilty, serve his sentence, been freed for a decade, presumably haven't done or plan to commit any crime or violence... and our ministers and prime minister goes nuts about him being in the same room with one of them on live TV where he does nothing but ask a question.
 
Yes he's a real choirboy.

I'm not defending him or think he's this and that.
But we're a nation of law, with due process and all that. So once a person has serve his sentence, what do you expect to be done of them? Lock them up again and throw away the key just because a few people would sleep better?

If you want that, then pass a law, or call some black op on the guy.

I thought it's good for democracy when there's check and balances, when there's different opinions presented. But ey, if we want our media to report what the gov't want only, sure why not. Who doesn't love to hear how glorious the dear leaders are and how evil the other empire is.
 
The transcript of the exchange,

BARRY CASSIDY: Will there be recommendations? Will you be suggesting, for example, that they change their protocols around decision-making?

MALCOLM TURNBULL: Well, let me say, we've got to find out what happened. And that is not questioning editorial, that is not telling them what to do. Under Section 8 of the act, the Minister has the power to write a letter to the ABC and make recommendations of policy which the board can either accept or ignore.

Now, it may be that we do make some, I do make some formal recommendations. It may be that, once the facts are exposed, the conclusions are so obvious the ABC takes it up. I mean, one thing that is perfectly obvious is that the security protocols surrounding the assembling of the Q and A audience have got to be improved.

BARRY CASSIDY: Yeah, but that's a bit exaggerated too. How many hundreds of shopping centres has this guy walked into and exposed himself to thousands of people in that way? How has that been a threat?

MALCOLM TURNBULL: ...you, you...

BARRY CASSIDY: What is the difference between him going into a shopping centre...

MALCOLM TURNBULL: Are you pulling my leg?

BARRY CASSIDY: Well what is the difference between him going into a shopping centre?

MALCOLM TURNBULL: After the Martin Place siege, you're saying to me that there is no security issue with putting Zaky Mallah in a live audience with...

BARRY CASSIDY: Well what's the difference between that and Zaky Mallah walking into a shopping centre?

MALCOLM TURNBULL: Well, if you can't see that, Barrie, I'm sorry. I mean, seriously, you've lost the plot there, with all due respect.

This is a high profile audience. It's a very high profile target. This is a fellow that has threatened violence in the past, has been impris- threatened to kill people, gone to jail for it, been involved in, you know, buying ammunition...

BARRY CASSIDY: Well why is he walking the streets? Why is walking the streets if that's the case?

MALCOLM TURNBULL: Well, because he's served his term of imprisonment and he hasn't committed another offence, but that doesn't mean that you would then consciously and willingly put that person in a very high profile environment on a live television program.

I mean, if you think there's no physical security issues with Zaky Mallah in that audience...

BARRY CASSIDY: No, I wasn't saying that; I was just asking for the...

MALCOLM TURNBULL: No, that's exactly what you are saying, and I've just got to say to you, I'm really glad you're not in charge of the physical security of the ABC, Barrie, because the idea that this is a non-issue, I am stunned that you would be so blasé about it.

My bolds.

http://www.abc.net.au/insiders/content/2015/s4263264.htm
 
In another twist, Labor frontbencher Joel Fitzgibbon has now turned to blaming Steven Ciobo for the original incident according to the following press article,

Mr Turnbull’s comments come after Labor frontbencher Joel Fitzgibbon accused parliamentary secretary Steven Ciobo of deliberately inflaming the situation when Mallah aired his views on the ABC’s Q&A program.

“He was seeking a rise out of Zaky Mallah because he knew what the outcome would be for the ABC and his ... electoral prospects,” Labor’s Joel Fitzgibbon told Sky News today.

http://www.news.com.au/entertainmen...ky-mallah-on-q-a/story-e6frfmyi-1227418615401
 
Sometime you wonder how these politician get out of bed in the morning and face the world.

The guy's been charged, pleaded guilty, serve his sentence, been freed for a decade, presumably haven't done or plan to commit any crime or violence... and our ministers and prime minister goes nuts about him being in the same room with one of them on live TV where he does nothing but ask a question.

I believe it was the inflection in his rhetoric and the ABC to run it a second time free to air and on ABC iview that poked the sleeping bear into action.

He was let off on a technicality and not judged by his peers as he was a minor at the time and yet here he is on our Aunty ABC with a GOLD mull leaf five panel hat and calling young Muslims to arms by stating this government is turning them into resistance fighters in another country?

Every interview thereafter turned to prime time stupidity by very senior staffers at the ABC !! Who released the memo to put this iriot on telly with a loaded "question"? "Heads will roll" was the headline splashed across the rags. Abbott is smelling a rat and it is wearing a tad thin as trashy headlines. Business as usual and LWNJ has had his 15 minutes of fame.
 
I'm not defending him or think he's this and that.
But we're a nation of law, with due process and all that. So once a person has serve his sentence, what do you expect to be done of them? Lock them up again and throw away the key just because a few people would sleep better?

If you want that, then pass a law, or call some black op on the guy.

I thought it's good for democracy when there's check and balances, when there's different opinions presented. But ey, if we want our media to report what the gov't want only, sure why not. Who doesn't love to hear how glorious the dear leaders are and how evil the other empire is.

If Zaky Mallah was your son and he states that two prominent female journalist should be publicly raped on TV, how would you react?
With the state of mind of this grub, his brain could snap any time....He should be under constant surveillance 24/7 if is not already after the QandA show.
 
If Zaky Mallah was your son and he states that two prominent female journalist should be publicly raped on TV, how would you react?
With the state of mind of this grub, his brain could snap any time....He should be under constant surveillance 24/7 if is not already after the QandA show.

Like I said, if he is deem an imminent threat to society, charge him and take him to court. If found guilty by law, sentence etc. etc.

Otherwise, you will have to presume he is innocent.. keep watch or whatever, but you cannot bar him from his right to free speech, or stop him from being in public. To demand that because he could snap and do god knows what... trust me, you don't want to live in a society where people can be lock up "just in case".
 
Top