Like I said, if he is deem an imminent threat to society, charge him and take him to court. If found guilty by law, sentence etc. etc.
Otherwise, you will have to presume he is innocent.. keep watch or whatever, but you cannot bar him from his right to free speech, or stop him from being in public. To demand that because he could snap and do god knows what... trust me, you don't want to live in a society where people can be lock up "just in case".
Otherwise, you will have to presume he is innocent.. keep watch or whatever, but you cannot bar him from his right to free speech, or stop him from being in public. To demand that because he could snap and do god knows what... trust me, you don't want to live in a society where people can be lock up "just in case".
Joseph Goebbels had been brought up in a Jesuit college and was a seminarian before devoting himself to literature and politics.
We know how well the ABC feels that exchange went for them by where it's appeared on their news page.Cassidy was the one who became agitated when Turnbull put him on the spot.
You are falling into the same problem as the ABC -"that shows we are independent. Everyone is entitled to free speech etc etc".
I completely agree. He is entitled to his right to free speech - but that doesn't entitle him to be invited to share those views via a national platform like the ABC. Let him go to the local shopping centre and get on his soapbox. Let him spend his money on flyers, pamphlets and brochures encouraging the hatred, let him hire halls and community centres if he chooses - but for goodness sake don't give someone who has threatened to kill fellow Australians a free kick (sorry - it wasn't just "free", the tax payer paid for him to come into the studio!!!)
Duckman
I heard from a debate on ABC that the guy's against ISIS, that he's always been against them and in his blogs have said no Australian should go, that is, do not join ISIS.
ISIS is our number one enemy right?
Anyway, I don't know the details about him or what he did ten years ago.. .as far as I am concern, our court system punished him, our current security agencies deem him safe enough to not lock him up or charge him with any crime. Doesn't the fact that he had served his time, having admitted guilt for threatening to kill ASIO officers... you can argue he's not rehabilitated and is scheming etc. etc.... well let's not lock people we don't like the look and sound of shall we.
As to the ABC inviting him on... I saw the replay and thought the question was fine. He didn't encourage people to join ISIS, he said it's talks like what's his name that some Muslims and Australian chose to go.
No one was harmed during the filming, no one in the gov't thought he's that much of a danger all these ten years but suddenly he's made out to be the greatest threat and our court and law have failed us yet again. The court and the leftist lynch mob at ABC apparently.
Man Haron Monis, anyone ,,,, anyone???
So what's your solution? Lock up all Muslims? Lock up anyone critical of Australian policies? Anyone who's political?
Should be an interesting Four Corners tonight, allegations of Mafia infiltration of politicians and political bribery of both parties.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-...nked-to-senior-australian-politicians/6579076
Apparently this guy issued a tweet that said that two prominent female journalists should be publicly raped. That goes beyond freedom of speech in my book and is an incitement to violence for which he should be jailed, or at least have restrictions n his movements like being electronically monitored or having to report to police every day.
The guy is a creep and needs to be watched carefully.
Based on that logic, shouldn't then the people holding or standing in front of signs "Ditch the Witch" (or was it "Bitch" ?) be sentenced to the same?
Grow up, people, and engage in rational argument with each other. Take the opportunity to expose creeps - whether on Left, Right, or Anarchist fringe - as just that. Credit Australia with the brains to make up their own minds!
With the leftist Kerry O'Brien at the helm of Four Corners you can bet your boots he will do his best to associate John Howard with the mafia.Should be an interesting Four Corners tonight, allegations of Mafia infiltration of politicians and political bribery of both parties.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-...nked-to-senior-australian-politicians/6579076
With the leftist Kerry O'Brien at the helm of Four Corners you can bet your boots he will do his best to associate John Howard with the mafia.
Howard was supposed to have shaken the hand of one of the mafia and it has already been alleged Howard would not have know his connection.
I don't think that Howard personally would have known if an individual was a Mafioso, and certainly would have been stupid to meet with him if he did, but his party accepted donations from such people and was influenced by them.
The incident of Vanstone giving a visa to a Mafia boss is well known, how many others ?
So, are you saying it's fine that people should be allowed to encourage others to commit a crime ?
"Ditch the witch" repugnant though it is, could simply mean "throw out" in an electoral sense. I don't see how you could equate that to encouraging people to rape a woman. Commonsense should tell you that the two incidences have important differences.
With the leftist Kerry O'Brien at the helm of Four Corners you can bet your boots he will do his best to associate John Howard with the mafia.
Howard was supposed to have shaken the hand of one of the mafia and it has already been alleged Howard would not have know his connection.
How about "heads should roll at ABC"?
No one is supporting the guy or support threats or violence as free speech. What we're saying is let's hear it. Let them make a fool of themselves, let hear different opinions and not just asks for heads to roll and sharpen our pitch fork whenever someone is saying something we don't like or find offensive.
Not to defend the guy but I before he ask his question, he did say something like: I was young and say and did something stupid that I served my time for... etc.
But if you listen to our gov't, it's as if the guy could have strap bombs and kill people on live TV or something.
Anyway, the bigger issue is media independence. We need it.
I don't think the ABC is that independent anyway, but at least there some debates, some in-depth analysis and investigative programming... the other media are all bought off, literally, by either the corporate sponsors or find it too much of an expense to investigate or question anything - so they simply report what the gov't say and report and focus on things that doesn't offend the sponsors' sense of "fairness".
Why do you think the gov't is making such a big deal out of this anyway? So that in the next budget, funding will be further slash and not too many "real" Australians care for it. The CEO will be replaced and the new one will find it smarter to just go along and keep everyone (in power) happy.
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