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rumpole said:
And even if the ABC does "lean Left", which I don't believe anyway, that just balances out the overwhelming list to the Right of the commercial media. The ABC has a duty to provide a balance overall, and do things that the commercial media doesn't. That's why you have shows like 4 Corners. They have blown the gaff on Labor and Liberals alike.

If your views are to the Right, a Centre position seems Left to you. Your perception of media bias is determined by your own bias. Only when your own views are unbiased can you make a judgement on others.
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I know you have just come back from holidays rumpole but if you read post #978 of this thread you will see that journalists are nothing but unionised, pinko, snouts in the trough, left wing, card carrying commies who all work for the ABC. :D
 
trainspotter said:
I know you have just come back from holidays rumpole but if you read post #978 of this thread you will see that journalists are nothing but unionised, pinko, snouts in the trough, left wing, card carrying commies who all work for the ABC. :D
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That's good to hear. There is some hope for the country still

;)
 
rumpole said:
Who do you trust more , Murdoch or the ABC ?
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Why should I feel obliged to choose? I have no overall trust in any media any more than I do in any politician.
Just not interested in pursuing an endless argument.

According to the survey I have previously referred to, the ABC is trusted by many more people (which obviously includes Liberal voters) than the commercial media.
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It would depend on the make up of the voters in the survey. I have not seen the methodology. There are frequently such surveys for various organisations which will, of course, be completed by those already devoted to the line pursued by that media organisation.

Please get over this supposed "Left bias" of the ABC.
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What? I feel quite able to make my own assessment, thanks. Don't need instructions from you.
 
Julia said:
Why should I feel obliged to choose? I have no overall trust in any media any more than I do in any politician.
Just not interested in pursuing an endless argument.


It would depend on the make up of the voters in the survey. I have not seen the methodology. There are frequently such surveys for various organisations which will, of course, be completed by those already devoted to the line pursued by that media organisation.


What? I feel quite able to make my own assessment, thanks. Don't need instructions from you.
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I agree with Julia's comments.

However since this latest pubic discussion on ABC bias, I have noticed far more balance on News Radio. In that environment it is far easier to be objective about both sides; media bias arouses tribal instincts that only polarize the listener IMO.

As far as the commercial media, they have a profit imperative and one agenda or another, I don't expect them to be balanced.
 
wayneL said:
As far as the commercial media, they have a profit imperative and one agenda or another, I don't expect them to be balanced.
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The commercial media's agenda is simply to increase it's profits and will support the party it thinks is most conducive to those ends, regardless of whether it's in the public interest.
 
rumpole said:
The commercial media's agenda is simply to increase it's profits and will support the party it thinks is most conducive to those ends, regardless of whether it's in the public interest.
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Isn't that what I said?
 
Interesting start to Insiders today in relation to their poster boy and Stephen Conroy.

Either the latter is dead frontbencher walking or Bill Shorten is dead Opposition Leader walking.
 
drsmith said:
Interesting start to Insiders today in relation to their poster boy and Stephen Conroy.

Either the latter is dead frontbencher walking or Bill Shorten is dead Opposition Leader walking.
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Yes Doc, I watched it also....I could not believe how Cassidy has mellowed away from his strong political bias....even that commo David Marr had very little resistance to the topic.
 
Julia said:
There's no doubt, however, that it does have a Right bias, just as Fairfax and the ABC lean Left.
That's OK for both the privately owned companies but not OK for a publicly funded organisation charged with presenting unbiased material.
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I'd prefer the ABC continue leaning to the left rather than sucking the life out of the material by trying to make every story as even handed (and inevitably boring) as possible.
 
drsmith said:
Interesting start to Insiders today in relation to their poster boy and Stephen Conroy.

Either the latter is dead frontbencher walking or Bill Shorten is dead Opposition Leader walking.
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Bolt is back and will clobber the Insiders in the ratings Dr. This morning the BR neatly skewered Labor on the leadership issue.
 
Logique said:
Bolt is back and will clobber the Insiders in the ratings Dr. This morning the BR neatly skewered Labor on the leadership issue.
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I've tried to like The Bolt Report. It gets right offside with me immediately with that violent red background.
And then Andrew Bolt's remarks are so predictable.
Neither does Mr Abbott do himself any favours in the overall electorate by always being available to such as Bolt and the ghastly Hadley and Jones shows, whilst being reluctant to appear on the ABC.

However, it was really good to see Peter Costello in fine form. Reminds us of what we missed due to his timidity.
 
rumpole said:
3 months after an election, who gives a frog's freckle ?
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You are right. It doesn't matter at the moment. What would be interesting is if Labor had a leadership problem in an election year. What if Shorten runs into trouble from the union inquiry. What happens if there is a challenge. If I was Tony Abbott I would be tempted to call an election whilst Labor are going through their cumbersome leadership election. For a large part of the campaign the Labor leader would not be known. It would not be a good look. It would be labor saying, " We are ready to govern but we are not sure who should be PM.

Kevin Rudd. The gift that keeps on giving.
 
Julia said:
I've tried to like The Bolt Report. It gets right offside with me immediately with that violent red background.
And then Andrew Bolt's remarks are so predictable.
Neither does Mr Abbott do himself any favours in the overall electorate by always being available to such as Bolt and the ghastly Hadley and Jones shows, whilst being reluctant to appear on the ABC.

However, it was really good to see Peter Costello in fine form. Reminds us of what we missed due to his timidity.
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Abbott won't go on the ABC Insiders because of the blatant bias expressed by Barry Cassidy but I have seen him on the 7.30 report and the 10.30 late line. On the other hand Shorten has no hesitation in appearing on Insiders.

It is a bit like trying to get Shorten on the Bolt Report.

But Julia do not let us forget the ABC is Government funded and it's charter is be unbiased but as we all know the ABC is stacked with Labor Party lackeys resulting in the manner in which it presents itself. The ABC is currently engaging some bod $600 per hour to give them a new image.

On the other hand, the Bolt Report is supported by an independent organisation and I guess has the liberty to report as it chooses.
 
noco said:
But Julia do not let us forget the ABC is Government funded and it's charter is be unbiased but as we all know the ABC is stacked with Labor Party lackeys resulting in the manner in which it presents itself.

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Of course, the CEO of the ABC, Mark Scott is a Liberal lackey but you don't mention that.
 
rumpole said:
Of course, the CEO of the ABC, Mark Scott is a Liberal lackey but you don't mention that.
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So if Mark Scott is a Liberal lackey, why can't he control those biased Labor lackeys.....You cannot deny it is not happening.
 
noco said:
On the other hand, the Bolt Report is supported by an independent organisation and I guess has the liberty to report as it chooses.
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Tom Lehrer concluded satire was obsolete when Henry Kissinger was awarded the Nobel Peace Price, good to see your still making the attempt though noco.
 
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