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That's typical of the degree of intellectual discussion in this area.

If it's "intellectual discussion" you crave, i.e. from people who are in sync with you, read the Green Left Weekly.

Green Left Weekly is an Australian socialist newspaper, written by progressive activists to "present the views excluded by the big business media".
 
Pity you always think in extremes. It's either your far Right view or a far Left view, nothing in between.


For more "intellectual discussion" try this from the Book Club on ABC 1.

 
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Rumpole of the Bailey ... if it is intellectual conversation you are after then you are living in Bathurst country. I can smell the rubber burning from here.

If intellegentia discourse is what you are after than I suggest you join a book club .... ABC has a good one :p:
 
Another rant by Bolt

:eek:

rumpole, I don't see you denying the true facts......it was Rowan Dean who made the remarks not Andrew Bolt.

You seem to have it is for Bolt.....is it because he he is not a left wing socialist comrade of the Labor Party?
 
Imo and I repeat,IMO, when I heard the money a lady presenter on a morning breakfast show was on. I gagged. No wonder Australia is in for a reality check.
Why would a t.v presenter be on $700k a year, also I would assume that is ball park, for most presenters.

So I suppose we shouldn't jump all over fifo people doing 4/1 earning $160k.:D
 
This thread has been largely about the ABC's bias to the Left in a political sense. Amongst the comments have been screams for the ABC to be abolished because of this bias.

But let's remember that the ABC has produced much valuable social commentary, an excellent example of which is tonight's "Four Corners" on the hideous abuse perpetrated on a little child, apparently adopted as a baby just for this purpose. The program laid out the grooming process exhibited by the male homosexual parents (I'm resisting the temptation to put 'parents' in quotes because surely we have the concept of parents having as their prime motivation in raising a child the best possible life and outcomes for that child.)

After inflicting gross abuse by predators world wide on this poor child, and thanks to dedicated police investigations globally, these vile adopters of the child were apprehended, tried and sentenced.

The background of one of them, investigated by the Four Corners team, showed that the childhood of this man reflected the very similar abuse he went on to perpetrate against the adoptee.
Does this excuse his behaviour? Of course not. But it does perhaps allow us to begin to understand that such immense damage to a young child is likely to have vast repercussions in later life.

Any chance that any commercial media organisation could have put together such an intelligent, searching and sensitive program? I doubt it very much and have never seen any evidence in such as the odious "60 Minutes" tabloid style.

So, when we're railing against the ABC, let's perhaps pause to consider so much that they do so well.
 
Absolutely Julia and I think that is what they do best, also i feel that is what taxpayers want them to do with their money.
Not take a political stance for the LNP or Labor or the Greens.
If they can get back to unbiased political reporting and focus on high quality content, they won't go the way of Holden and Ford.IMO
 
Not take a political stance for the LNP or Labor or the Greens.

I've yet to see concrete examples of where and how they do this.

Airing the views of all political parties is not bias, it's simply the job of all media to be fair and unbiased and give the public exposure to all views so they can make informed decisions.
 
ABC bias claims: Independent audit finds four of 97 stories raised concern

Posted 19 minutes ago
Map: Australia

An independent audit of the ABC's coverage in regards to asylum seekers has found four out of 97 pieces of content which were reviewed raised editorial concerns.

The audit of 51 7.30 stories and 46 Lateline stories was undertaken by journalist Gerald Stone.

Stone found that overall coverage on Lateline and 7.30 included a wide range of opinions and was given appropriate air time.

A separate audit of ABC radio coverage of the 2013 federal election campaign found no evidence of bias.

ABC chairman James Spigelman welcomed Stone's findings, saying the criticisms have received "proper consideration".

"These reviews have once again demonstrated that against the background of thousands of stories produced over the period reviewed, the error rate is small," he said in a statement.

"Nevertheless, the ABC board is determined to ensure that informed criticisms are taken seriously, reflected upon and openly acknowledged.

"The criticisms have been accepted and acted upon. No further steps, with respect to the individual journalists, are required."

Mr Spigelman says the ABC's guidelines on impartiality will be expanded and updated, accompanied with "ongoing training and editorial discussion".

"Specifically, the review of guidelines will address the risks arising if questions are not asked, allegations and claims are not closely scrutinised or the evidence that they have been is not broadcast," he said.

"This reflects the principle thrust of the Stone critique."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-12/bias-review-finds-4pc-of-abc-content-raised-concern/5315656
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4 out of 97 is pretty good IMO.

I wonder if any commercial media is even willing to subject themselves to an independent editorial review ?
 
What the ABC pretends not to realise is that while some individual stories are presented in a biased fashion the chief source of their bias lies in the story selection and emphasis ie if an NGO criticises Australia's detention centers they will give it a lot of prominence.
 
What the ABC pretends not to realise is that while some individual stories are presented in a biased fashion the chief source of their bias lies in the story selection and emphasis ie if an NGO criticises Australia's detention centers they will give it a lot of prominence.

The tone and expression used by the presenter also plays a large part.

Even Tony Jones had to sheepishly laugh at the end of this week's Q&A when someone raised the question of the ABC wasting so much money using a 9 member legal team to defend a totally outrageous slander of a journalist by the Chasers (who else?). Every member of the panel was united in their opinion that the ABC should have offered an apology when it was first demanded, instead of wasting taxpayer funds on a drawn out legal stoush. They need to be mindful of where their funding comes from imo.
 
The tone and expression used by the presenter also plays a large part.

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I agree, watching ABC produced 'comedy' they seem to focus on Abbott, who the majority voted for.

I think they would get a lot more laughs focusing on the Labor Party, Shorten and Albanese are a natural comedy skit.IMO

Also the majority of taxpayers would obviously agree.:D
 
I agree, watching ABC produced 'comedy' they seem to focus on Abbott, who the majority voted for.

I think they would get a lot more laughs focusing on the Labor Party, Shorten and Albanese are a natural comedy skit.IMO

Also the majority of taxpayers would obviously agree.:D

I don't. I think they should make a satire "At Home with Tony".

It would only be fair and unbiased wouldn't you agree ?

Although probably the most boring show ever made.

But you would have all the conservatives yelling LEFTY BIAS and threatening to close the ABC.

:D
 
I don't. I think they should make a satire "At Home with Tony".

It would only be fair and unbiased wouldn't you agree ?

Although probably the most boring show ever made.

:D

You're probably right there, it would be boring, carrying out the P.M's duties and keeping fit for triathalons.

He probably goes from parliament to the gym or a run or circuit training, then one assumes off to bed.

How do you think most other politicians would compare?

Probably a day in the life of Craig Thomson, would be better t.v.lol

Yep Tony's boring, but it seems he is clean living and doesn't have many skeletons in the closet.

It's a shame Australians don't see that as an admirable trait.:rolleyes:

They seem to see it as a quality to make fun of and criticise, probably indicates an inferiority complex.:xyxthumbs

A bit like at Uni, where all the Asians are on the computer terminals in the library and the Aussies are in the student union bar.
Aussie, aussie, aussie, oy oy oy.lol
 
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