2010 Federal Election

[noco]

What a great outcome for election 2010.

Sit back folks and watch the games begin.

 

[IFocus]

Finally a result, Gillard will be a fine Prime Minister

 

[Duckman#72]

Gillard will be a fine Prime Minister

Hopefully she will perform much better as Prime Minister this time than she was last time.

She certainly speaks more spin than Rudd - but she has met her match in Oakshott.

Duckman

 

[noco]

words not fit for public display....the whole thing is a farce, being held to ransom and by 4 people, wake me up in 3 years

How about 12 months Macca? Tony Abbott should thank his lucky stars that Joolya got the job.

 

[moXJO]

Does this mean Gillard still has not been voted in by the Australian people?

Will be interesting to see this govt in action

 

[sails]

words not fit for public display....the whole thing is a farce, being held to ransom and by 4 people, wake me up in 3 years

Don't worry Macca, hopefully you might not have to sleep that long. Will be interesting to see how the bits and pieces forming the government will work and how many weeks / months it will last.

I still think it is pretty bad that one of the main reasons they backed labor is because they have the most to lose with an early election and so the more likely to keep their fragile hotch potch together until such time that they have to go to an election. They call this "stability".

TONY Abbott would be more likely to win if another election was held soon, one of the key Independents has said.

Excerpt above from an article from news.com.au:
Coalition would win new election, says Tony Windsor

 

[explod]

Finally a result, Gillard will be a fine Prime Minister

Agree, and she is. Was impeccable tonight on the 7.30 report. Inclusive after the style of Nelson Mandella IMHV.

The dawning today of a new, refreshing period of more representative and fairer politics. How she expresses it says it all.

Lets hope it is maintained.

 

[Julia]

I wonder what job Gillard offered Oakeshott? He said he had to discuss it with his wife and kids.

I gather something along the lines of "Minister for Regional Development".
Given Mr Oakeshott's verbosity, he's going to have some difficulty sticking to his own guidelines for brevity in the House.

So technically, these two have backed the weakest side and the one potentially less preferred by Aussie voters.

Yes, and that's the ultimate irony, isn't it. i.e.that the Coalition won both the primary and 2PP vote.

Of course their choice gives the indies longer with some power.

Exactly so, and can anyone doubt that this was the basis for their decision, along with the pork they managed to get promised for their electorate barrels.

I wonder if Windsor and Oakeshott will get the same photo op courtesy Julia extended to Bob Brown to do one with her standing up.

You bet they will. Along with anything else their hearts may desire.

Finally a result, Gillard will be a fine Prime Minister

Well, IFocus, let's genuinely hope she has learned from the past mistakes.
She's smart, no question, and is a top negotiator. Whether she can depart from her obsessive spin and replace it with a genuine desire to work in Australia's best interests is another story. We will see.

I'd give her every bit as much chance as I'd have given Tony Abbott.
The circumstances all round are against either of them being successful.

Agree, and she is. Was impeccable tonight on the 7.30 report. Inclusive after the style of Nelson Mandella IMHV.

You're comparing her to Nelson Mandala??? Get a grip, Explod! You can't possibly be serious.

 

[-Bevo-]

Well looks like we will see a price on carbon at some stage going by the interviews with no impact on climate just another tax to help drive living costs up, what happens with boats cant see any solution there either, budget in surplus by 2013 no don't think so, this will probably turn into a bigger circus at some stage, Tony Windsor I can put up with Rob Oakeshott the biggest tosser I seen don't get me started on the Greens totally scary what ideas they will throw around especially come middle of next year and to think Wayne Swan a man with a IQ in single digits stays as Treasurer for another 3 years is a complete joke.

 

[basilio]

I think one of the great results of this election could be excellent reforms of the parliament. A truly independent speaker ; real questions and real answers in question time ; parliamentary committees that attempt to construct good legislation. These are worthwhile advances on what has been a bastardised political process.

The fly in the ointment is that by and large neither Labour nor the Coalition really want such reforms. And I suspect the Coalition will be doing all in it's power to destroy this government before it gets a chance to make any sort of positive impact and gains public support. And before these reforms actually get a chance to improve the quality of government.

In the event of a fresh election it will be interesting to see which parties continue to support the reforms - and if they eventually do.

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I'm a politician. Don't tell me what to do. Make me do it !

 

[pixel]

to finish this topic off, I've come up with a - predictable, some say - limerick:

Our new Prime Minister, Ms Julia,
Implored indies "Please let me rule ya!
I'll swear by your lives,
There won't be no knives
Allowed in our Chambers to cool ya!"

 

[Logique]

Well the white Lab-Coat-of-Victory came out, and we are to be the guinea pigs in the great national experiment.

17 days for the independents to dawdle to a decision. Which for all the open-mindedness and depth of analysis displayed, might have been reached over a coffee on day 2. 'Laurel and Hardy', the artists formerly known as the 'Two Amigos', finally appeared, and we endured a meandering and discursive 2000 words to make a simple two paragraph announcement. A sign of things to come in this parliament.

Katter at least retains my respect, if not total concurrence on policy.

So it's to be 3 more years of wealth re-distribution more than it's creation, of the public sector more than the private. And electricity prices on potential breakout alert. The golden children of middle-class welfare, upon whom government handouts will continue rain like confetti, will of course be cocooned from the slightest inconvenience.

So congratulations to the Gillard govt, now get on with governing. Especially let's see dental services added to Medicare, or the Greens 'Denticare'. Something at least that might be salvaged.

Thanks to all posters on this thread, we didn't always agree, but it's been great fun. And again Joe Blow, thanks for your forbearance.

 

[explod]

You're comparing her to Nelson Mandala??? Get a grip, Explod! You can't possibly be serious.

Have you studied the backgrounds of Mandella and Gillard Julia ?

The latter has modelled her whole approach on the "consensus of the group" principal as developed by Mandella from his early years.

And what should I get a grip of? Sometimes I do not like the way you express things. Have always been considerate towards you Julia.

Had a huge tree fall over our place and crushed our car with other associated damage over the weekend so have been a bit preoccupied. As time permits I intend to start a thread called "Gobbledegook" so that we may disseminate discussions from a few days back.

 

[nulla nulla]

Move along, nothing to see here. Over and dusted. The coalition of Labour, Green and Independants outnumbered the coalition of Liberal and National Party. Game over 76 to 74.
Time to start training for the next game?

 

[sails]

Does this mean Gillard still has not been voted in by the Australian people?

Will be interesting to see this govt in action

IMO definitely not voted in by the Australian people- she is ony there by the votes of three independents and one green.

And with the deciding two independents intentionally backing the weakest side who are afraid of an early election doesn't inspire confidence.

 

[Julia]

Have you studied the backgrounds of Mandella and Gillard Julia ?

Can't think of two people whose backgrounds have been much more dissimilar, really.

And what should I get a grip of? Sometimes I do not like the way you express things. Have always been considerate towards you Julia.

Fair enough, explod. Sorry. I should have contained my exasperation.
It just seemed a fairly ridiculous comparison to me, but I don't see Ms Gillard in the same rosy light that you do. You're quite entitled to think she is wonderful if you wish. In fact, I hope for the sake of the nation you're at least a bit correct.

Had a huge tree fall over our place and crushed our car with other associated damage over the weekend so have been a bit preoccupied.

I'm really sorry to hear that, explod. Very upsetting. Hope the insurance company is being helpful, the car replaced, and the other damage repaired rapidly.

 

[gordon2007]

Move along, nothing to see here. Over and dusted. The coalition of Labour, Green and Independants outnumbered the coalition of Liberal and National Party. Game over 76 to 74.
Time to start training for the next game?

My sentiments exactly. Move on, what's done is done.

 

[explod]

Can't think of two people whose backgrounds have been much more dissimilar, really.


Fair enough, explod. Sorry. I should have contained my exasperation.
It just seemed a fairly ridiculous comparison to me, but I don't see Ms Gillard in the same rosy light that you do. You're quite entitled to think she is wonderful if you wish. In fact, I hope for the sake of the nation you're at least a bit correct.

On the contrary, I was a bit harsh on you too in retrospect. We are all visiting very uncertain times at the moment and on edge. Gillard grew up as a girl in may area of the Western Suburbs of Melbourne. I do by some associations have a very good idea of her backgound and where she is coming from. I also realise that its hard to get blinkers off when so much has occurred in such a short time.

I am not a full Gillard fan by the way, I am a Green. However I can attest that Gillard is very honest, forthright and keeps her word and that my firends is one of the reasons she had to put her hand up (when approached and pressed by her peers in the ALP) to take on Krudd.

However only time will tell on all counts.

 

[gordon2007]

Gillard grew up as a girl in may area of the Western Suburbs of Melbourne. I do by some associations have a very good idea of her backgound and where she is coming from.

HUH

I'm under the impression she was born in wales and migrated to south australia. Went to mitcham school then unley high school. Started uni in adelaided then went finished in melbourne?

 

[Mofra]

I'm under the impression she was born in wales and migrated to south australia. Went to mitcham school then unley high school. Started uni in adelaided then went finished in melbourne?

That sounds right and explains the accent.