I see nothing erratic about Katter. Agree with him or not but he maintains a consistant attitude. It is that same attitude that had him become an independant.
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I see nothing erratic about Katter. Agree with him or not but he maintains a consistant attitude. It is that same attitude that had him become an independant.
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I'll put it another way then.
He will find it hard to be a team player regardless of which side he backs and this will obviously impact the stability of any government where his vote is critical.
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The main consideration is the slimness of the margin. Just takes one or two indeps to have a hissy fit and everything changes. It's inherently unstable, however these indeps align themselves.
This is why I think the indeps demand for a full three-year term, come what may - is excessive and unrealistic. So having thought about this, I think the response of the two-party leaderships should be a firm no, and if the indeps insist - end of negotiation.
And on the erraticism rankings for the indeps: Katter doesn't even make the grand final. It requires an understanding of how things go in the bush, and what it takes to gain and hold a seat in a far-flung rural outpost.
This is why I think the indeps demand for a full three-year term, come what may - is excessive and unrealistic. So having thought about this, I think the response of the two-party leaderships should be a firm no, and if the indeps insist - end of negotiation.
And on the erraticism rankings for the indeps: Katter doesn't even make the grand final. It requires an understanding of how things go in the bush, and what it takes to gain and hold a seat in a far-flung rural outpost.
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The Greens and ALP have formally agreed to introduce a carbon tax despite Wayne Swan saying one would not be introduced this term if Labor was re-elected.
http://resources.news.com.au/files/2010/09/01/1225912/745814-greens-alp-deal.pdf
http://resources.news.com.au/files/2010/09/01/1225912/745814-greens-alp-deal.pdf
Correction : Polictially assassinated. That is more to the point don't you agree?
So all that means that a government may not get ALL the legislation that it wants. No big deal and certainly not instability. I may also mean that Katters electorate may get to have a taste from the pork barrel. Thatis no different to our electorate reasting on pork to keep our ALP member in by Gillard. After all he is in there for the benefit of his electorate. politics would never be perfect. Perfection would be a benevolent dictator.
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Don't forget the pony as part of the grab bag. Wilkie has rolled over and farted in bed. Julia liked the smell so much she gave him a hospital to buy him across.
Katter wants increased tariffs and banana farmers to be protected.
Oakshott is calling for everyone to hold hands and play the guitar around the campfire.
GIMME A BREAK HERE ! Enough pandering to these escaped loonies.
How about this for an idea? Royalties for Regions? Very similar to the model that Brendon Grylls negotiated with Colin Barnett to obtain Government. On a Federal scale it is a win win for everyone !!
Nup? Time to pack the bags and head to the airport me thinks.
Katter wants increased tariffs and banana farmers to be protected.
Oakshott is calling for everyone to hold hands and play the guitar around the campfire.
GIMME A BREAK HERE ! Enough pandering to these escaped loonies.
How about this for an idea? Royalties for Regions? Very similar to the model that Brendon Grylls negotiated with Colin Barnett to obtain Government. On a Federal scale it is a win win for everyone !!
Nup? Time to pack the bags and head to the airport me thinks.
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Question of balance isn't it ? When the Country party held the balance of power in Victoria for 30 odd years they were ruthless with gaining the best advantage they could for rural Victoria. There has to be some balance as to where limited funds are spent and the national priorities of a Federal goverenment.
That was why I was initially pleased with the Independents claiming they had a national focus and wern't just looking to bolster their own electorates. ( I don't think Bob Katter shares that view and of course a week is along time in politics..)
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Here is the full text of the Labor / Greens deal which has just been done:
http://bob-brown.greensmps.org.au/webfm_send/448
I would imagine that those who voted greens as a protest aganst both major parties won't be too happy.
http://bob-brown.greensmps.org.au/webfm_send/448
I would imagine that those who voted greens as a protest aganst both major parties won't be too happy.
And so he should. For example; Why should our pork producers go out of business because they have to compete with overseas operators that have the advantage of subsidised production?. A tarrif on those types of imports would be a better form of income for the government than an increased GST.
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Abbott scraped in by one vote (with an abstinance I might add) whilst Gillard had huge numbers and would have won any ballot. Rudd pulled the pin before the party ballot knowing he would have suffered a crushing loss.
Gillard and Abott are the leaders of their respective parties, revisionist history wont change that. If only Costello had the guts Gillard did - we certainly wouldn't have a hung parliament now, that's for sure.
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On face value, I agree that tarrifs on overseas produce that compete with our own must be a good thing.
I get annoyed at having to check every label these days to make sure we are not consuming imported rubbish from countries who do not have comply to the same quality standards as our Aussie producers.
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ANNIE GUEST: Mr Katter also holds strong views on protectionism.
He says deregulation cruelled the banana and dairy industries and didn't always make prices cheaper.
On the campaign trail, he told PM he wants a return to tariffs.
BOB KATTER: Every four days a farmer in this country commits suicide, because we've got no hope of competing. There should be a 15 per cent charge on everything coming into the country.
ANNIE GUEST: But Mr Katter's views have been rejected by the National Farmers Federation.
http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2010/s2993407.htm
This is the same nutjob that wants to turn rivers inland and secede FNQ ?
He says deregulation cruelled the banana and dairy industries and didn't always make prices cheaper.
On the campaign trail, he told PM he wants a return to tariffs.
BOB KATTER: Every four days a farmer in this country commits suicide, because we've got no hope of competing. There should be a 15 per cent charge on everything coming into the country.
ANNIE GUEST: But Mr Katter's views have been rejected by the National Farmers Federation.
http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2010/s2993407.htm
This is the same nutjob that wants to turn rivers inland and secede FNQ ?
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Canegrowers Association CEO Ian Ballantyne has dealt with Mr Katter, who served as a state MP in Bjelke-Petersen government, for 20 years.
"Bob is really honest and an emotional advocate for the people he represents," Mr Ballantyne said.
"[His failing] would be that he's not a details man. He will often get only part of a story and respond and react to that.
"I've never seen Bob willing to listen at all.
"He'll listen to the bits he wants to and then he'll form a view. It's very hard, very difficult [to get him] to move on from that point."
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/federal-election/you-dont-debate-with-bob-katter-20100824-13q87.html
"Bob is really honest and an emotional advocate for the people he represents," Mr Ballantyne said.
"[His failing] would be that he's not a details man. He will often get only part of a story and respond and react to that.
"I've never seen Bob willing to listen at all.
"He'll listen to the bits he wants to and then he'll form a view. It's very hard, very difficult [to get him] to move on from that point."
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/federal-election/you-dont-debate-with-bob-katter-20100824-13q87.html
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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...s-assembly-alive/story-fn59niix-1225912872913
Results: Greens deal
Thanks for voting!
Does Labor's deal with the Greens give it a better chance of forming government?
• Yes - 26.32% (164 votes)
• No - 73.68% (459 votes)
Total votes: 623
So far, not so good for ALP-Greens.
And let me get in first, its just the News press.
Results: Greens deal
Thanks for voting!
Does Labor's deal with the Greens give it a better chance of forming government?
• Yes - 26.32% (164 votes)
• No - 73.68% (459 votes)
Total votes: 623
So far, not so good for ALP-Greens.
And let me get in first, its just the News press.
Yes Gillard had the backing of the unelected faceless men; the Arbibs, the Howes and Shortens. Rudd pulled the pin with the knife at his back. Come what may, it all back fired on Labor.
Why wern't the voters given the chance to judge Rudd who was the elected Prime Minister in 2007? Who knows Rudd may have done better than Gillard.
Too much spin and B##l S##t from both of them.
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Well, it's happened sooner than I expected. A Green Labor Party alliance or coalition; what is the difference? We now have two coalitions.
No one will convince me this deal was not stitched up before the election. Today they just made it formal.
If voters had known this before the election, Labor and the Greens would have been decimated and we would not have a hung parliament we have today. For those who voted Green just as a protest vote,I guess they must now be regretting their actions.
Let's have another election!!!
