2010 Federal Election

[noco]

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What an absolute load of poisonous dribble. The phone call was simply a stupid mistake by Senator Hefferman which Rob Oakshott rightly questioned.
Ridiculing him for standing up to a perceived abuse is uncalled for - but not surprising. If enough liberal hacks (and their proxy blog supporters) keep this ridicule and abuse up then the independents will decide to work with politicians who are constructive and respectful. Just makes sense doesn't it ?

It's all a big media beatup if you ask me to help cheer up the Labor party. The poor soles they must be soooo depressed at ATM.

 

[Mofra]

It's all a big media beatup if you ask me to help cheer up the Labor party. The poor soles they must be soooo depressed at ATM.

I don't it's a media beat up at all - in a normal workplace, calling another employee's home and telling someone's wife the devil is calling is cause for official action.

The change in 2 party preferred polling is a far bigger story in any case.

 

[Calliope]

Not to be outdone by the three stooges, Wilkie gave his wish list to Gillard.

Replace the Royal Hobart Hospital, kill Gunns' Tamar River pulp mill, dramatically speed up the national broadband network rollout in Tasmania, free dental care, limit bets on all poker machines to $1, urgently introduce a carbon price, increase all pensions and allowances, allow a conscience vote on gay marriage . . . Yes, and another 15 modest ideas. Unaccountably, he forgot to mention a four-lane bridge from Tasmania to the mainland.

It seemed quite a wish-list for an MP who squeaked in to Parliament with a primary vote of about 21 per cent, thanks to preferences from Greens and Liberals that put him ahead of Labor, which got 38 per cent

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http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/polit...s-bass-strait-20100830-147d5.html?autostart=1

 

[basilio]

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It's certainly not a Coalition strategy. It's a storm in a teacup. Oakeshott craves attention like a spoiled brat in the supermarket.

What an absolute load of poisonous dribble. The phone call was simply a stupid mistake by Senator Hefferman which Rob Oakshott rightly questioned.
Ridiculing him for standing up to a perceived abuse is uncalled for - but not surprising. If enough liberal hacks (and their proxy blog supporters) keep this ridicule and abuse up then the independents will decide to work with politicians who are constructive and respectful. Just makes sense doesn't it ? Basilio

Any comments I have made about Oakeshott and the other two independents can't compare in nastiness with your unprovoked remarks about me. Calliope

Calliope I was fed up with your unnecessary ridicule of Rob Oakshotts willingness to stand up for himself.

In my view one of the worst aspects of politics recently has been personal attacks on politicians with the aim of destroying their credibility and undermining any respect others might have for them. In that sense your cheap shot about Oakshott craving attention like a spoilt brat in a supermarket was pretty ugly.

Congratulations

One of the possible outcomes of this situation with independents holding the balance of power is a more constructive solution based politics with less aggro, head kicking and ridicule and more clear thinking. I support that idea so I'm willing to defend Rob and the other independents and point out just how dumb it is to abuse the people you need to get on side. After all even the Liberal party have worked that one out havn't they ? And even Labour makes every effort to minimise the public loss of face that Kevin Rudd had in his replacement.

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So now you are calling the independents The Three Stooges. Classy work Calliope. You don't need anyone else pointing out your nasty side. You do it quite well yourself

 

[Logique]

In my view one of the worst aspects of politics recently has been personal attacks on politicians with the aim of destroying their credibility and undermining any respect others might have for them.

Quite right,
perhaps the Unions and ALP factions ('..Workchoices tomorrow..'; '..it's in his DNA..'; '..a vote against broadband..', etc etc) or the Greens ('..frightening that Tony Abbott could be Prime Minister..'; '..a vote against climate change..')....could lead this reform by example?

 

[It's Snake Pliskin]

Calliope I was fed up with your unnecessary ridicule of Rob Oakshotts willingness to stand up for himself.

In my view one of the worst aspects of politics recently has been personal attacks on politicians with the aim of destroying their credibility and undermining any respect others might have for them. In that sense your cheap shot about Oakshott craving attention like a spoilt brat in a supermarket was pretty ugly.

Congratulations

One of the possible outcomes of this situation with independents holding the balance of power is a more constructive solution based politics with less aggro, head kicking and ridicule and more clear thinking. I support that idea so I'm willing to defend Rob and the other independents and point out just how dumb it is to abuse the people you need to get on side. After all even the Liberal party have worked that one out havn't they ? And even Labour makes every effort to minimise the public loss of face that Kevin Rudd had in his replacement.

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So now you are calling the independents The Three Stooges. Classy work Calliope. You don't need anyone else pointing out your nasty side. You do it quite well yourself

Just heard a replay of the Oakshott guy on radio and I must say I am not impressed with his attitude and his style.

Just on the election and afterworld I have been very unimpressed. Now we see what other countries go through that see insecure parties and governments changing and creating uncertainty for the people.

 

[Calliope]

In that sense your cheap shot about Oakshott craving attention like a spoilt brat in a supermarket was pretty ugly.

Rubbish. It was spot on. You are just looking for excuses to make unprovoked attacks on me, which are pretty ugly and intemperate.

 

[It's Snake Pliskin]

I heard him interviewed on Radio National this morning and thought he was quite reasonable on this. It's just stupid of any member of the Coalition (unless the Coalition does actually have a strategy of wanting to go to another election) to be making unpleasant phone calls to any of the independents.

Mr Oakeshott wasn't saying he couldn't deal with this sort of rubbish, but he was making the quite legitimate point that he was puzzled by this behaviour if the Coalition do want to a deal to get into government. And if this is the sort of nonsense that's happening now, naturally he's going to be concerned that it would probably be worse in an actual government situation.

I agree that any of the parties should not be doing that. But it shouldn't be the topic of the day. There is more important stuff for the pollies to be doing.

 

[Happy]

Not certain but probably mentioned already, why Labor and Liberals don’t form stable Coalition Government for few years to come, if true that almost all First World countries are governed by Coalitions.

Sure, they historically didn’t even think about it, but we used to be sworn enemies with Japan for example and look how friendly we are now?

Politics are like that and above all, politicians look after their backside first (enough to have a look at their more than generous super arrangement).

 

[trainspotter]

Kum ba yah, my Lord, kum ba yah!
Kum ba yah, my Lord, kum ba yah!
Kum ba yah, my Lord, kum ba yah!
O Lord, kum ba yah!

"I want to renovate that Labor tradition, to deliver lasting and durable improvements to our democracy, improvements not just for this parliamentary term, but measures to permanently uplift our system of government as other reforms have done in generations past,'' she said.

(which actually means they will change the electoral boundaries again to ensure every seat is a safe Labor seat)

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/sp...-the-high-ground/story-fn5ko0pw-1225912138824

Independents sh!tindepants I reckon. Get rid of them. Libs won fair and square on Primary votes. Take them outside and have them flogged to an inch of their lives.

 

[Mofra]

Interesting; I wonder if the people who donkey-voted/gave blank forms form the majority of these people?

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-el...e-differently-in-election-20100830-147eq.html

MORE than one in 10 voters would have voted differently had they known Australia was headed towards a hung parliament, according to a new poll.

Any new election held could be as interesting as the current one.

 

[drsmith]

Interesting article regarding 2PP,

http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com...bor_still_has_2pp_lead_and_other_corrections/

and and Insiders segment (ABC) on the rise of the Greens.

Fielding out as Green tide rises

The panel look at what transformations are required for the Greens to become a mainstream political entity and Steve Fielding losing his seat in the Senate.

http://www.abc.net.au/insiders/

It's the 2'nd last segment.

 

[trainspotter]

The "Wish List" from the Independent Wilkie cracked me up !

Tasmanian Independent MP Andrew Wilkie wants Julia Gillard or Tony Abbott to commit to an upgrade of inner port infrastructure at Hobart before guaranteeing his support to the next Australian government.

http://www.lloydslistdcn.com.au/archive/2010/august/31-1/mp-seeks-hobart-port-upgrade

and a pony ..... don't forget the pony.

 

[Bushman]

The "Wish List" from the Independent Wilkie cracked me up !

Tasmanian Independent MP Andrew Wilkie wants Julia Gillard or Tony Abbott to commit to an upgrade of inner port infrastructure at Hobart before guaranteeing his support to the next Australian government.

http://www.lloydslistdcn.com.au/archive/2010/august/31-1/mp-seeks-hobart-port-upgrade

and a pony ..... don't forget the pony.

Yep, don't forget replacing the whole Hobart hospital with a brand spanking new building.

The investment themes emerging are:
1. short Telstra;
2. long bananas;
3. long renewable energy;
4. long healthcare;
5. short sanity; and
6. forget about a budget surplus ever again!!!!

 

[Calliope]

Tasmanian Independent MP Andrew Wilkie wants Julia Gillard or Tony Abbott to commit to an upgrade of inner port infrastructure at Hobart before guaranteeing his support to the next Australian government.

This guy is Green. Abbott is wasting time talking to him. With him and the other Green, Gillard has 74. She only needs two more. Throw in Oakeshott and she only needs one.

 

[noco]

I don't it's a media beat up at all - in a normal workplace, calling another employee's home and telling someone's wife the devil is calling is cause for official action.

The change in 2 party preferred polling is a far bigger story in any case.

What a shame the devil didn't phone Kevvie on 23 June to tell him there was a knife aimed at his back.
What happened to the Labor Party wrongful dismissal laws?

 

[IFocus]

Wayne Swan's bend over posture to Bob Katter might be hard to top.

Email doing the rounds that its a mason's handshake

 

[IFocus]

What cracks me up is the jealousy from the Nats all now lining up with their own wish lists.

Coalition of the unwilling I think rather than stability.

How much pork has to flow to the Nats from Abbott to keep the lot of them happy?

The behavior of the Coalition liberal and national red necks has been simply extraordinary.

Looking forward to the country being run by hill billy's

 

[IFocus]

They are only playing hard to get so that they can squeeze out a few more goodies for their electorates. they are politicians after all.

This is how I see the game so far Nioka the Nationals did the same here in WA to squeeze the Liberals a better deal and what a deal it was...........

 

[drsmith]

Best debate of the election campaign.

http://www.sexparty.org.au/index.php/videos/782-sex-party-vs-family-first-real-debate-on-sunrise-

Only 12 minutes.