Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

[basilio]

And here is someone else for Don to sue for daring to suggest he deals out favours on the basis of kick backs to his own companies.

Clearly more fake news..

Trump Orders Help For Chinese Phone-Maker After China Approves Money For Trump Project
Trump will profit from Indonesian resort project that will get $500 million in Chinese loans in a deal sealed days before before his tweet ordering help for ZTE.
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WASHINGTON – A mere 72 hours after the Chinese government agreed to put a half-billion dollars into an Indonesian project that will personally enrich Donald Trump, the president ordered a bailout for a Chinese-government-owned cellphone maker.

“President Xi of China, and I, are working together to give massive Chinese phone company, ZTE, a way to get back into business, fast,” Trump announced on Twitter Sunday morning. “Too many jobs in China lost. Commerce Department has been instructed to get it done!”

Trump did not mention in that tweet or its follow-ups that on Thursday, the developer of a theme park resort outside of Jakarta had signed a deal to receive as much as $500 million in Chinese government loans, as well as another $500 million from Chinese banks, according to Agence France-Presse. Trump’s family business, the Trump Organization, has a deal to license the Trump name to the resort, which includes a golf course and hotels.

Trump, despite his campaign promises to turn over his businesses and have no involvement with them, has still not fully divested himself of his businesses, and continues to profit from them.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/trump-china-zte_us_5af9f701e4b0200bcab7fa66

 

[basilio]

Found an intriguing hypothesis about Donald Trumps routine lying. The suggestion is he is basically telling "Blue" lies . These are lies that build solidarity in your own group becasue they kick the xhit out of perceived enemies. Everyone knows their lies - but who cares. It makes us look good.

How the Science of “Blue Lies” May Explain Trump’s Support
They are a very particular form of deception that can build solidarity within groups

https://blogs.scientificamerican.co...ence-of-blue-lies-may-explain-trumps-support/

 

[SirRumpole]

Found an intriguing hypothesis about Donald Trumps routine lying. The suggestion is he is basically telling "Blue" lies . These are lies that build solidarity in your own group becasue they kick the xhit out of perceived enemies. Everyone knows their lies - but who cares. It makes us look good.

How the Science of “Blue Lies” May Explain Trump’s Support
They are a very particular form of deception that can build solidarity within groups

https://blogs.scientificamerican.co...ence-of-blue-lies-may-explain-trumps-support/

Yes, it's pretty obvious that he's running a divide and conquer strategy, speaking to his own supporters and ignoring the rest. Crude but effective. I wonder if the other side will be tempted to respond likewise or take the moral high ground ?

 

[moXJO]

Yes, it's pretty obvious that he's running a divide and conquer strategy, speaking to his own supporters and ignoring the rest. Crude but effective. I wonder if the other side will be tempted to respond likewise or take the moral high ground ?

Hillary polarized 40% of the pop by calling them "deplorable". All that did was draw battle lines and kick things off.
The left media is already printing fake news. It gave Trump enough ammo to say all bad news was fake. America is divided and a lot worse off because of it.

 

[bellenuit]

Hillary polarized 40% of the pop by calling them "deplorable". All that did was draw battle lines and kick things off.
The left media is already printing fake news. It gave Trump enough ammo to say all bad news was fake. America is divided and a lot worse off because of it.

Don't blame Hillary and the left media for Trump. He was put in place by the Right and in particular the Evangelical Christian Right. He would not be able to continue as he is doing; usurping the Constitution on religious separation from state, blatant lying about everything, willingness to act in ways bordering on treasonous etc; only that he has support from those same factions, who are turning a blind eye to everything that they had previously stood for.

The fact that Hillary may not have been a good choice of candidate is no excuse for getting behind and supporting a candidate so despicable as Trump.

 

[Tisme]

Direct involvement by Trump's sons, not President

The Trump Organization and MNC signed deals in 2015 for Lido and a Bali project, resulting in almost $3.7 million in licensing and consulting payments for the Trump Organization, according to MNC’s most recent annual report.

 

[basilio]

Direct involvement by Trump's sons, not President

And that isn't a prima facie case of conflict of interest ? The CFO in your company decides to award multi million dollar contacts to his brother/father/son ?

 

[wayneL]

Don't blame Hillary and the left media for Trump. He was put in place by the Right and in particular the Evangelical Christian Right. He would not be able to continue as he is doing; usurping the Constitution on religious separation from state, blatant lying about everything, willingness to act in ways bordering on treasonous etc; only that he has support from those same factions, who are turning a blind eye to everything that they had previously stood for.

The fact that Hillary may not have been a good choice of candidate is no excuse for getting behind and supporting a candidate so despicable as Trump.

That is absolutely incorrect. In fact the radical left is responsible for Trump (and we should thank them for that) because of their ideological and poisonous excess.

I also posit that despite Hillarys greater political nous her administration would be about 10 times more despicable, just saying.

 

[SirRumpole]

I also posit that despite Hillarys greater political nous her administration would be about 10 times more despicable, just saying.

In what way ?

 

[moXJO]

Don't blame Hillary and the left media for Trump. He was put in place by the Right and in particular the Evangelical Christian Right. He would not be able to continue as he is doing; usurping the Constitution on religious separation from state, blatant lying about everything, willingness to act in ways bordering on treasonous etc; only that he has support from those same factions, who are turning a blind eye to everything that they had previously stood for.

The fact that Hillary may not have been a good choice of candidate is no excuse for getting behind and supporting a candidate so despicable as Trump.

That wasn't how the election was won.
They sacrificed Bernie for Clintons ambition.

 

[moXJO]

In what way ?

More empowerment of identity politics for one.

 

[luutzu]

In what way ?

They'd be doing the same crap but do it with very polite words.

And it's please and thank yous that makes all the difference.

That and "Freedom", "brother's keeper", hope, change or "'merka is already great" we just need to make it more great, again.

 

[basilio]

The On again. Off again, On again saga of the Peace summit.

How quickly things chnage in the Trumpian world. On Thursday Donald Trump abruptly cancelled the peace summit with North Korea. He reckoned they were being too mean. Even wrote his own letter explaining how sad he felt about the situation.

Donald Trump cancels North Korea nuclear summit
Trump letter to Kim Jong-un says talks are ‘inappropriate’ but North Korea says it made utmost effort to hold summit

Donald Trump has cancelled his planned summit with the North Korean leader, Kim Jong-un, blaming his decision on a threatening statement from the Pyongyang regime, and warning that the US military is “ready if necessary”.

The abrupt decision, which came as a surprise to US allies in the region, came after an exchange of menacing statements from US and North Korean officials.

North Korea responded to the cancellation by saying Kim Jong-un had made the utmost effort to hold the summit with President Trump and the country was willing to resolve issues with the United States.

“We tell the United States once more that we are open to resolving problems at any time in any way,” North Korea’s vice foreign minister Kim Kye Gwan said in a statement.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/may/24/trump-cancels-north-korea-nuclear-summit

Ok. Next.... Kim Jong-un comes out with probably one of the most effective responses to the Trump decision to cancel the talks.

North Korea has said it is still willing to hold direct talks between its leader Kim Jong-un and Donald Trump, calling the planned summit “desperately necessary” to resolve potential hostilities after the US cancelled the meeting.


“We express our willingness to sit down face-to-face with the US and resolve issues anytime and in any format,” North Korea’s vice foreign minister Kim Kye-gwan said in a statement. “Our commitment to doing our best for the sake of peace and stability for the world and the Korean Peninsula remains unchanged, and we are open-minded in giving time and opportunity to the US.”


North Korea’s response moved to place the blame on the US. It has consistently worked to portray itself as the driver of progress in a relationship that has remained hostile for over six decades. Kim Jong-un has been crafting an image of a responsible statesman against an erratic Trump.


“Internally we have been quietly giving president Trump high marks for making a decision no other American president had the courage to pursue,” Kim Kye-gwan said. (What a brilliant little suck job..!)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...r-open-for-desperately-necessary-trump-summit

And the result ? Donald Truimp is now seriously reconsidering his flip and putting the summit back on.

Donald Trump says North Korea summit could be back on

• Original date a possibility as US officials talk with Pyongyang
• ‘They very much want to do it. We’d like to do it’

Sabrina Siddiqui in Washington, Benjamin Haas in Seoul and Justin McCurry in Tokyo

Fri 25 May 2018 16.03 BST First published on Fri 25 May 2018 15.40 BST

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Asked if North Korea was playing games, Donald Trump responded: ‘Everybody plays games.’ Photograph: Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images
Donald Trump has suggested his summit with Kim Jong-un could still go on as planned, marking yet another dramatic reversal for the US president who just a day earlier canceled the meeting in a letter to the North Korean leader.

“We’ll see what happens,” Trump told reporters at the White House on Friday, adding that his administration was in talks with Pyongyang and the summit was still possible on its originally scheduled date of 12 June.

“They very much want to do it. We’d like to do it,” he added.

Asked if North Korea was playing games, Trump responded, “Everybody plays games.”

Trump tweeted later on Friday that the US was having “very productive talks” with Pyongyang about the possible summit.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/25/donald-trump-north-korea-summit-reversal

 

[Tisme]

http://www.ntd.tv/2018/05/30/trump-signs-bill-to-allow-patients-to-try-experimental-treatments/

See the monster and child abuse

 

[luutzu]

http://www.ntd.tv/2018/05/30/trump-signs-bill-to-allow-patients-to-try-experimental-treatments/

See the monster and child abuse

The law aren't designed to help terminally ill patient. It says it does, but words are not deeds and intention.

Permitting experimental drugs on patient like Trump has is just allowing drug companies more guinea pigs to test on. It takes away incentives for them to better develop and test the drug for efficacy before trying it on humans as a possible treatment.

Passing the first phase of clinical trial just mean, from memory, the drug proves that it doesn't kill its patient.

So while it appear that this law help patient, it sure give people hope... often false hope. And I don't think it's free either.

In NZ, that's the one I read up on, their FDA permit the fast-tracked and treatment of experimental drugs on patient where no other drugs for the disease is available. I think one of the condition imposed is that the experimental drugs and its application are completely free, or completely free.

The US FDA, can't be sure but I might have read it while doing some research, also currently permit this. So Trump's Right to Try is either a nothing burger or permitting pharma to charge for experimental drugs as though it's a proper, serious, treatment.
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In other news... Trump's new deal to force big pharma drug prices down for American is.... trump roll... is to stop other countries health department from being able to negotiate for lower drug prices.

So single-payer countries like Australia, Canada, Europe... the government use their buying power, and legislation, to force drug companies to negotiate a better deal. Bulk buying tend to give you a discount.

But that's bad... and so Trump's American power is going to start telling its allies to stop interfering in "free trade", do not dare negotiate as a large entity... be like the US gov't and pay twice as much for the same drug.

Seriously.

This, it is argued, will mean Americans can then pay less for their drugs. Apparently, big pharma are making losses in those socialist country where they make a minimum of 50% profit margin. So if they could make more, they will, honestly, fingers crossed, lower their prices for Americans.

But to be fair, can't put this on Trump. He just sign whatever that's put in front of him.

 

[basilio]

The Trump International Trade war is picking up speed. The ride of our life perhaps ?

US on brink of trade war with EU, Canada and Mexico as tit-for-tat tariffs begin

Trump administration goes ahead with threatened tariffs on steel and aluminium as allies pledge to hit back

• Trump imposes tariffs – business live

Larry Elliott and Richard Partington in London, and Edward Helmore in New York

Thu 31 May 2018 19.56 BST First published on Thu 31 May 2018 15.02 BST

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The Port Talbot steel works in Wales are the biggest in Britain. Photograph: Dimitris Legakis for the Guardian
The United States and its traditional allies are on the brink of a full-scale trade war after European and Canadian leaders reacted swiftly and angrily to Donald Trump’s decision to impose tariffs on steel and aluminium producers.

World leaders hit back at Trump over 'totally unacceptable' tariffs – as it happened
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The president of the European commission, Jean-Claude Juncker, promised immediate retaliation after the US commerce secretary, Wilbur Ross, said EU companies would face a 25% duty on steel and a 10% duty on aluminium from midnight on Thursday.

Europe, along with Canada and Mexico, had been granted a temporary reprieve from the tariffs after they were unveiled by Donald Trump two months ago.

However, Ross sent shudders through global financial markets when he said insufficient progress had been made in talks with three of the US’s traditional allies to reduce America’s trade deficit and that the waiver was being lifted.

Wall Street slumped as the Dow Jones Industrial Average closed down more than 250 points as investors sold off shares in manufacturers and corporations with global reach. Shares across Europe also declined.

The move from Washington – which comes at a time when Trump is also threatening protectionist action against China – triggered an immediate and angry response from Canada, Brussels and from individual European capitals.

Juncker called the US move “unjustified” and said the EU had no choice but to hit back with tariffs on US goods and a case at the World Trade Organisation in Geneva.

“We will defend the Union’s interests, in full compliance with international trade law,” he added. Brussels has already announced that it would target Levi’s jeans, Harley-Davidson motorbikes and bourbon whiskey.

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...-salvo-in-trade-war-with-eu-canada-and-mexico

 

[Tisme]

https://www.naturalnews.com/2018-05...-obama-committing-crimes-against-america.html

 

[bellenuit]

https://www.naturalnews.com/2018-05...-obama-committing-crimes-against-america.html

Natural News is rightly regarded as one of the worst news sites on the internet. Full of conspiracy theories and the goto source for anti-vaxxers, homeopathy proponents, chem trail "proofs" etc.

Just take a moment to look at the ads on that page to see the type of audience it has. I saw it described once as one of the most dangerous sites on the internet due to the constant stream of false news and complete disregard for the truth - but unfortunately it has a huge gullible audience.

 

[Tisme]

Natural News is rightly regarded as one of the worst news sites on the internet. Full of conspiracy theories and the goto source for anti-vaxxers, homeopathy proponents, chem trail "proofs" etc.

Just take a moment to look at the ads on that page to see the type of audience it has. I saw it described once as one of the most dangerous sites on the internet due to the constant stream of false news and complete disregard for the truth - but unfortunately it has a huge gullible audience.

But it's on the internet so it must be true

 

[SirRumpole]

Some sage words from American neuroscientist and author Sam Harris on Trump, social media and Islam.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-...ruth-and-lies-in-the-donald-trump-era/9819290