Kevin Rudd for PM

[noco]

I observed a poll run by Channel 7 and Yahoo news this morning which showed Abbott with 86 % and Rudd with 14%.

I went to copy and paste it on ASF a couple of hours later and it had disappeared.

I wonder why?

 

[bellenuit]

Has Kevin57 already lost the plot ?

This sounds like desperate stuff,



http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...rm-plan-deadline/story-fn9qr68y-1226671379678

We have every right to tow boats which enter our territorial waters without permission back to international waters just outside Indonesian waters (from where they originated). This is all the opposition has said it will do and then only if it is safe to do so.

For Rudd to issue the statements he did today borders on treachery. He is effectively saying that Australia should not enforce its rights because our neighbour wouldn't like it, even when we know that neighbour turns a blind eye to the bribery and corruption that facilitated those crossings to begin with. He is pre-emptively taking the side of Indonesia for his own political purposes.

What happens should Australia and Indonesia have differences over fishing or mineral deposits in the seas between us. Do we just concede because the Indonesians might be offended.

 

[springhill]

Has Kevin57 already lost the plot ?

This sounds like desperate stuff,



http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...rm-plan-deadline/story-fn9qr68y-1226671379678

Yep, he has already shown his hand as being divisive.

Nothing has changed here.

 

[pixel]

Has Kevin57 already lost the plot ?

He's a busy little beaver. On the News, I just heard him referred to as Kev'n 24/7.

 

[noco]

We have every right to tow boats which enter our territorial waters without permission back to international waters just outside Indonesian waters (from where they originated). This is all the opposition has said it will do and then only if it is safe to do so.

For Rudd to issue the statements he did today borders on treachery. He is effectively saying that Australia should not enforce its rights because our neighbour wouldn't like it, even when we know that neighbour turns a blind eye to the bribery and corruption that facilitated those crossings to begin with. He is pre-emptively taking the side of Indonesia for his own political purposes.

What happens should Australia and Indonesia have differences over fishing or mineral deposits in the seas between us. Do we just concede because the Indonesians might be offended.

The little t>^d now says turning back the boats to Indonesia by 'Field Marshall' Abbott could cause a military conflict. How absurd can he be?

He has not changed and is as bad as his predecessor.

Scare tactics at its best.

He has gone to the extreme IMHO.

 

[MrBurns]

The little t>^d now says turning back the boats to Indonesia by 'Field Marshall' Abbott could cause a military conflict. How absurd can he be?
He has not changed and is as bad as his predecessor.
Scare tactics at its best.
He has gone to the extreme IMHO.

Yes I saw that ........the little runt has shot himself in the foot already.......good, wont be long before the media start asking him if he's heard the rumours about a challenge

 

[drsmith]

Yes I saw that ........the little runt has shot himself in the foot already.......good, wont be long before the media start asking him if he's heard the rumours about a challenge

They've still got Bill Shorten in the locker,

 

[explod]

The little t>^d now says turning back the boats to Indonesia by 'Field Marshall' Abbott could cause a military conflict. How absurd can he be?

He has not changed and is as bad as his predecessor.

Scare tactics at its best.

He has gone to the extreme IMHO.

The Indo...... system is still in the jungle days and feeds off any money, good, bad or ugly it can get hold of. On international affairs, like it or not Rudd is one of the best exponents. He does not seem to be suggesting open conflict will occur (as the press and some here suggest) but that it is ground that could sour the important relationship that for security reasons we need to keep on a co-operative bases.

Abbott will cause scare actions at an even higher bestest level than yours noco in my view.

If you really want extremes, how about Howard going along with the seppo's into Iraq chasing WOMD that did not exist and terrorists that lived elsewhere.

 

[drsmith]

The Indo...... system is still in the jungle days and feeds off any money, good, bad or ugly it can get hold of. On international affairs, like it or not Rudd is one of the best exponents.

He's best suited to Minister for Interplanetary Affairs based from Mars.

That would have also had the benefit of not mattering when the cryogenic freeze failed.

 

[DB008]

K Rudd is a egotistical nutter.

Medicare reforme (ie 'Super-clinics').

Still in la-la land...

 

[explod]

K Rudd is a egotistical nutter.

Medicare reforme (with 'Super-clinics').

Still in la-la land...

The problem you have is that people are sucked in by a pretty face who makes a big noise thereby causing them to forget the past.

 

[noco]

The problem you have is that people are sucked in by a pretty face who makes a big noise thereby causing them to forget the past.

Wow!!!!!! That is the best description of KRudd that I have ever heard.

You are spot on Plod.

 

[Julia]

When the recycled bull turns up all the females desert the Alpha female's court and start courting the recycled bull.

From that article:

Ms Gillard's ministerial colleagues, including Ms Macklin and Senator Wong, criticised Labor for failing to back a woman to replace Martin Ferguson in the safe seat of Batman.

And then they laid their utter hypocrisy out on the line when it mattered most, when their adored leader actually needed them.

Author and feminist Jane Caro, who has been behind the Destroy The Joint movement, said Labor women were entitled to stay in positions of power and there was nothing hypocritical about their decision.

And these feminists wonder why no one takes them seriously! Caro apparently fails to have even a glimmer of her own hypocrisy.

Has Kevin57 already lost the plot ?

This sounds like desperate stuff,

+1. Way out of line.

We have every right to tow boats which enter our territorial waters without permission back to international waters just outside Indonesian waters (from where they originated). This is all the opposition has said it will do and then only if it is safe to do so.

For Rudd to issue the statements he did today borders on treachery. He is effectively saying that Australia should not enforce its rights because our neighbour wouldn't like it, even when we know that neighbour turns a blind eye to the bribery and corruption that facilitated those crossings to begin with. He is pre-emptively taking the side of Indonesia for his own political purposes.

What happens should Australia and Indonesia have differences over fishing or mineral deposits in the seas between us. Do we just concede because the Indonesians might be offended.

When I was listening to his manipulative ploy here, internationally irresponsible as it is, my instinctive reaction was anger at Rudd being prepared to say anything at all in an attempt to alarm the electorate. On thinking about it further, I think he has worked out exactly his target audience, ie those who can't think for themselves, and is tailoring his message to them.
Yesterday ABC Radio did a lot of on the street interviews in western Sydney asking people if Mr Rudd's return would affect their vote. These people had not heard a single word of policy from Mr Rudd, but enthusiastically said "oh yes, I was going to vote for Mr Abbott, but now that Kevin is back I'll vote for him".
It cannot be too difficult to send convincing messages to these people given their clear lack of cognitive ability.

The Indo...... system is still in the jungle days and feeds off any money, good, bad or ugly it can get hold of. On international affairs, like it or not Rudd is one of the best exponents. He does not seem to be suggesting open conflict will occur (as the press and some here suggest) but that it is ground that could sour the important relationship that for security reasons we need to keep on a co-operative bases.

I suggest you listen again to all he said. He is absolutely clearly suggesting open conflict is a real possibility under a Coalition government.
Add this to the Indonesians' comment on learning of the return of Rudd that it was "beyond comprehension", what on earth do you think Rudd is potentially doing to the relationship of Australia with Indonesia?
As bellenuit says, he is treading in stupidly inflammatory international ground for the sake of base domestic political advantage.

Has he learned anything from his time in the wasteland? Apparently yes. How to be even more undermining of the greater Australian good than he was while he white anted Gillard throughout her reign.
I cannot think of an individual I despise more.

 

[Wysiwyg]

When I was listening to his manipulative ploy here, internationally irresponsible as it is, my instinctive reaction was anger at Rudd being prepared to say anything at all in an attempt to alarm the electorate. On thinking about it further, I think he has worked out exactly his target audience, ie those who can't think for themselves, and is tailoring his message to them.

It also dawned on me the media industry thrives on this stuff and exactly why Rudd strings them along this way. Control is power.

 

[explod]

From that article:

I suggest you listen again to all he said. He is absolutely clearly suggesting open conflict is a real possibility under a Coalition government.
Add this to the Indonesians' comment on learning of the return of Rudd that it was "beyond comprehension", what on earth do you think Rudd is potentially doing to the relationship of Australia with Indonesia?
As bellenuit says, he is treading in stupidly inflammatory international ground for the sake of base domestic political advantage.

Has he learned anything from his time in the wasteland? Apparently yes. How to be even more undermining of the greater Australian good than he was while he white anted Gillard throughout her reign.
I cannot think of an individual I despise more.

I detest them all Julia as they are so removed from reality on the ground it is not funny. And yes I did listen to Rudd well, because from a social point, which is so important for those struggling at the coalface, the Libs have never had it and perhaps the Krudd wimp can hold things off till some sanity returns to our political scene overall.

For a start they want to give money to wealthy private schools yet they cut down the public systems, particularly those in the secondary training areas. And one could labour the point onwards.

 

[Aussiejeff]

Many scoffed when Latham called this man "E-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-v-i-l" :batman:.

I wonder......:evilburn:

 

[Calliope]

The problem you have is that people are sucked in by a pretty face who makes a big noise thereby causing them to forget the past.

Admittedly he is the prettiest face in this pic, but I think you should see Specsavers.

 

[noco]

I observed a poll run by Channel 7 and Yahoo news this morning which showed Abbott with 86 % and Rudd with 14%.

I went to copy and paste it on ASF a couple of hours later and it had disappeared.

I wonder why?

Just checked out the latest Yahoo7 poll on Kevin Rudd.

The Question............."DO YOU BELIEVe RUDD HAS CHANGED?"

Results so far................NO......65% ..... YES......35%

 

[Calliope]

Just checked out the latest Yahoo7 poll on Kevin Rudd.

The Question............."DO YOU BELIEVe RUDD HAS CHANGED?"

Results so far................NO......65% ..... YES......35%

Of course he's changed...for the worse!

 

[drsmith]

Of course he's changed...for the worse!

It could be that the 65% that said no already regard him as a saint...........,

Saint Kev the psychopath that is.