The Gillard Government
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Hows this for a political hand grenade.
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Wont happen, Gillard has learned well that BS works, she now has a cult following among every woman that feels downtrodden, all she needs to do is make up more fairy tales about Abbott and they'll believe her be it true or not.
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Don't worry Burnsie. The electorate will give this government the boot when it gets its chance.
The Coalition though does need to be able to articulate a vision between now and then, and Tony Abbott needs to be able to counter Julia Gillard's nonsense.
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He does indeed, but doesnt look like he can, there's no real replacement for him either.........
Agree Labor will get the bullet but Gillard is living it up in the meantime.
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Ms Gillard's popularity up another five points in today's Nielsen poll. Mr Abbott's down.
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I agree with Cynic. Tony Abbott, despite his success in scaring everyone silly with the carbon tax, is now looking a bit hollow. In the face of Ms Gillard's attacks on him, he's like a rabbit in the headlights: no idea how to handle it.
A bit of scorn about the misogynist label might be a decent start. Even pointing out the many projects for which he has carried out fund raising to benefit women's causes.
I agree with Cynic. Tony Abbott, despite his success in scaring everyone silly with the carbon tax, is now looking a bit hollow. In the face of Ms Gillard's attacks on him, he's like a rabbit in the headlights: no idea how to handle it.
A bit of scorn about the misogynist label might be a decent start. Even pointing out the many projects for which he has carried out fund raising to benefit women's causes.
Yes Julia, I just cannot believe what she has done and is still able to get her long nose in front.
Will we see a change in the Coalition leadership after all this or will they stick with Abbott? They may wait for the next poll and hope to hell Gillard trips over again. Maybe the Bruce Wilson affair may raise its ugly head in this week's sitting of parliament
Abbott will need to turn things around if he is to stay leader of the coalition.
I like Christopher Pyne. He seems to handle himself very well.
Hopefully libs can use the Rudd/Gillard hate fight to their advantage for the next few weeks before they have to use any of their own ammo on labor corruption and track record. Starting to announcing policy in the home stretch to the election is probably the idea.
I still think libs should shuffle out Hockey and bring in TBull so long as he stays on party lines. He will pull in a lot of the just left of center votes. Hockey is too lackluster and not very competent.
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Re: Gillard better PM than Rudd
Latest Neilsen poll has the 2 party preferred part coalition at 52% with Labor. Still an easy win.
Preferred Primie minister is 50% Gillard, 40% Abbott.
Latest Neilsen poll has the 2 party preferred part coalition at 52% with Labor. Still an easy win.
Preferred Primie minister is 50% Gillard, 40% Abbott.
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The Libs need to pull their socks up or they'll lose an unloseable election.
The trend is toward Labor/Gillard.
The Libs need to pull their socks up or they'll lose an unloseable election.
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It's just astonishing that in the light of the total debacle that is border control, the government is gaining ground.
Can it just be the sweep of sentiment (misplaced) over the Prime Minister's tirade about how she has suffered at the hands of a misogynist opposition?
A commentator on the radio this morning analysing the latest poll said he felt one of the factors in Gillard's favour and detracting further from Abbott was that the carbon tax is, so far at least, not turning out to be the armageddon Tony Abbott insisted it would be.
He also made the point that much of the increase in Gillard's popularity has come from males, for the first time.
Hard to fathom that.
Can it just be the sweep of sentiment (misplaced) over the Prime Minister's tirade about how she has suffered at the hands of a misogynist opposition?
A commentator on the radio this morning analysing the latest poll said he felt one of the factors in Gillard's favour and detracting further from Abbott was that the carbon tax is, so far at least, not turning out to be the armageddon Tony Abbott insisted it would be.
He also made the point that much of the increase in Gillard's popularity has come from males, for the first time.
Hard to fathom that.
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The Coalition won't lose unless they do something silly like replace Tony Abbott with Malcolm Turnbull. He's politically too soft and Labor would rip him to pieces.
The next session of Parliament I suspect will be the moment of truth for one of the leaders of the two major parties.
The Coalition won't lose unless they do something silly like replace Tony Abbott with Malcolm Turnbull. He's politically too soft and Labor would rip him to pieces.
The next session of Parliament I suspect will be the moment of truth for one of the leaders of the two major parties.
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Yes, Gillard is on a roll. The Labor "destroy the sexist, misogynist Abbott" campaign, is gaining momentum. The feminists are all getting stuck into him on ABC radio, on Twitter-World and in the Fairfax press, and the dirt is sticking.
Yes, Gillard is on a roll. The Labor "destroy the sexist, misogynist Abbott" campaign, is gaining momentum. The feminists are all getting stuck into him on ABC radio, on Twitter-World and in the Fairfax press, and the dirt is sticking.
This is exactly the reason I am seeing - Abbott ran a highly risky "fear campaign" with little policy substance of his own, and now that reality has not turned out nearly as bad as his campaign would have had us suggest it would he is losing ground fast.
Let's remember this is a Coalition government that had the biggest capital gains tax and mining boom that this country has seen and all they had left in the bank at the end of it was a tiny surplus (in the context) and a massive structural deficit (because of which you will find Labour had to spend large amounts of money). The Liberals face the same problems that Labour do, spending behind curve at the start of last decade, has left structural holes in our economy. Let's remember Howard also sold off a lot of public assets to achieve this too.
It is hard to say whether the much discussed surplus is really that good of an idea when you consider these issues as a backdrop. You can say that growing debt currently is an issue, but to put the breaks on it and heavens forbid start repaying it (before 2022 I think was mentioned today) it would appear that you would really need to damage the economy in the process (through lack of spending). If you damage the economy too severely, then the current manageable debt becomes an even bigger problem all of a sudden.
One would get the impression, at least from the ideas that actually get publicised, that neither party at the moment has much of an idea on how to face this issue.
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I've got no doubt the Carbon Tax Will bite hard in the future.
Yes Burnsie, I don't believe we have felt the full affect as yet.
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The carbon tax over time will be an accumulating cholesterol on our economic arteries.
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