The Gillard Government

[Julia]

As you quoted IFocus.

When I was at secondary school, my English class studied a collection of essays, one of which analysed the methods of Nazi propaganda in the 1930s.

To compare the rhetoric/propaganda of any of our current Australian political parties to the Nazis is to do a vast disservice to all those who so hideously suffered under the Nazis.
So inappropriate.

That is what I dislkie about Abbott and contemporary politics.
The propaganda combined with the willingness of certain members of the press to spread it unquestioningly.

Propaganda is propaganda no matter how you look at it. And people that fall for propaganda are lacking a discerning mind and are easily led.

It is dealt out to these non-discerning minds by all sides, very much including the Greens as well as the two major parties. To single out Mr Abbott as especially guilty is less than discerning in itself.

Is it any different to the constant chorus, that Tony is to blame for everything.
I don't think either side of politics can hold themselves up as paragons of virtue.

Exactly.

 

[sptrawler]

As you quoted IFocus.

When I was at secondary school, my English class studied a collection of essays, one of which analysed the methods of Nazi propaganda in the 1930s.

There were, I recall, three components of this: an element of truth; gross exaggeration; and constant repetition.

That is what I dislkie about Abbott and contemporary politics.
The propaganda combined with the willingness of certain members of the press to spread it unquestioningly.

Propaganda is propaganda no matter how you look at it. And people that fall for propaganda are lacking a discerning mind and are easily led.

It's nice to see you groping to find something that supports your unfounded faith in a morally currupt group of self serving dicks.
Don't forget they have raised the pension age. (While saying we have a bling economy, envy of the world)
Reduced what people can put into supperannuation. (So they can't retire early)
Yet their untaxed pensions have increased considerably, due to exorbitant pay increases.
Have brought in a broad based consumption tax (tax on electricity)
The pink batt scheme highlighted their stupidity. Households who were energy conscious put insulation in, then this government used their taxes to put it in everyone else roof for free. How dumb is that!!!!
This will become a rant if I keep going.

 

[drsmith]

Labor should have added glyphosate to the water long ago.

Now they need a Stihl in addition to the glyphosate.

 

[sails]

Another green tax on the cards? Seems like the greens can only think in tax and spend as long as it's the working families who pay.

Proposed recycling levy to add $300 to average family's shopping bill

 

[Julia]

Don't most councils already have recycling facilities in place?
Here we have a bin for stuff to be recycled and another for general rubbish. I thought it was widely used.

 

[sails]

Don't most councils already have recycling facilities in place?
Here we have a bin for stuff to be recycled and another for general rubbish. I thought it was widely used.

I agree - it seems just another excuse for a tax. We are already paying for recycling in our rates. Probably another thing they are hoping Aussies are too stupid to notice.

Another tax much like our life giving co2 which is not a pollutant (or at least it never was considered a pollutant until greedy politicians decided to make it a villain for tax purposes).

 

[Knobby22]

It's nice to see you groping to find something that supports your unfounded faith in a morally currupt group of self serving dicks.
Don't forget they have raised the pension age. (While saying we have a bling economy, envy of the world)
Reduced what people can put into supperannuation. (So they can't retire early)
Yet their untaxed pensions have increased considerably, due to exorbitant pay increases.
Have brought in a broad based consumption tax (tax on electricity)
The pink batt scheme highlighted their stupidity. Households who were energy conscious put insulation in, then this government used their taxes to put it in everyone else roof for free. How dumb is that!!!!
This will become a rant if I keep going.

You've completely missed the point.

I will be voting Liberal next election so the above information is irrelevant.

 

[DB008]

Sorry, don't know if this has been posted.

 

[drsmith]

One very small step in the right direction for Labor.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...-alp-left-leader/story-fn59niix-1226426028959

 

[sails]

I was looking for the video clip of Gillard supporting turning boats back in 2002 (saw it on the Bolt Report this morning!) and stumbled across this picture - says it all really - perhaps I should have posted it in the climate thread...:



Moving forward - this picture from photographer Andrew Meares on the Gillard campaign in Adelaide.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-elect...-for-mantle-of--normality-20100810-11uhe.html

 

[drsmith]

Julia Gillard reckons she's in for the long fight. She's right in the sence that is feels lik eher government has been in for an agonising eternity.

The fight however is over. It's now just a question of whether her party cleans the corpse from the canvas before the electorate gets its chance

 

[joea]

Julia Gillard reckons she's in for the long fight. She's right in the sence that is feels lik eher government has been in for an agonising eternity.

The fight however is over. It's now just a question of whether her party cleans the corpse from the canvas before the electorate gets its chance

Well I believe within 24 hrs of her speech, millions of Australian voters, mouthed the words, "my bloody oath you are going to have a fight". You are going to be "shown the highway"!!!
If science could have harnessed all that "hot air" from the ALP conference we probably could have shut down at least one boiler generating electricity.

Another thing! These political conferences should be reduced to help the environment.

joea

 

[noco]

Julia Gillard reckons she's in for the long fight. She's right in the sence that is feels lik eher government has been in for an agonising eternity.

The fight however is over. It's now just a question of whether her party cleans the corpse from the canvas before the electorate gets its chance

Doc, I think after the latest poll by Essential Report, I would say Gillard is past the bandaid stage and is about to be hospitalised.



http://essentialvision.com.au/category/essentialreport

 

[drsmith]

Doc, I think after the latest poll by Essential Report, I would say Gillard is past the bandaid stage and is about to be hospitalised.

http://essentialvision.com.au/category/essentialreport

The only part of a hospital that would be of any use to her political life now is a slab in cold storage.

When all is said and done, no autopsy will be required. The primary cause of death (amongst many other things) will be poisoning by carbon tax.

Labor will be looking to bury her in the middle of the darkest of nights, in order to minimise public attention. If Kevin Rudd is resurected after being put down twice, the old knife wound in the back is bad enough. The real challenge however will be to hide the shot-gun wounds between the eyes of his zombified corpse.

The two polls on the Greens were the most interesting and inparticular, where labor voters stand. This should not be lost on strategists within the party.

 

[Julia]

Thanks for link to the Essential Report, noco. We don't hear much about them and probably less weight is given to their research than to Newspoll and Galaxy.

It's interesting that, in spite of the substantial lead for the Coalition over Labor, the preferred Prime Minister is still so close, with 37% to Julia Gillard and 38% to Tony Abbott.
Shows that the electorate is still not really warming to Mr Abbott, despite how much they detest the government.

I'd like to see a question in the poll which goes something like: "If you dislike the government, and also dislike Mr Abbott, for whom will you vote?"

 

[drsmith]

I'd like to see a question in the poll which goes something like: "If you dislike the government, and also dislike Mr Abbott, for whom will you vote?"

A choice between the sex party and the following is quiet obvious I would have thought.

 

[sptrawler]

Can't follow that one Doc.

 

[drsmith]

Can't follow that one Doc.

Eliminate the Coalition and Labor and what do you have ?

It was a comment in jest that I'd vote for the sex party before I'd vote for the Greens.

 

[bunyip]

Gonorrhea Lectim - New Deadly Disease.

One should be thinking about this seriously. The Center for Disease Control has issued a warning about a new virulent strain of this old disease.

The disease is called "Gonorrhea Lectim". It's pronounced “Gonna re-elect em" and it is a terrible and deadly ailment.

The disease is contracted through dangerous and high risk behaviour involving putting your cranium up your rectum. Many victims contracted it in 2007. But now most people, after having been infected for the past few years, are starting to realize how destructive this sickness is.

It's sad because Gonorrhea Lectim is easily cured with a new drug just coming on the market called Votemout. Most people in NSW and more recently in Queensland took the first dose but the second dose is due late next year.

 

[drsmith]

It's sad because Gonorrhea Lectim is easily cured with a new drug just coming on the market called Votemout. Most people in NSW and more recently in Queensland took the first dose but the second dose is due late next year.

The government will discover just how potent Votemout Forte really is.