Christine Nixon... leave her alone!

[BradK]

Geez, cheap political point scoring on an excellent public servant.

Unbelievable.

Brad

 

[GumbyLearner]

Geez, cheap political point scoring on an excellent public servant.

Unbelievable.

Brad

Doesn't she work for Carlton United Breweries now!
I agree, leave her alone let her work on the sly groging.

 

[Matty]

I'm with you as well. It seems we all just love to blame someone, when really she couldn't have done a damn thing!

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

I would agree, she made many enemies in Victoria doing a good job as Police Commissioner. And many of the more constipated were not comfortable with her sexuality. She is a good person from all that I have heard about her.

gg

 

[BradK]

I would agree, she made many enemies in Victoria doing a good job as Police Commissioner. And many of the more constipated were not comfortable with her sexuality. She is a good person from all that I have heard about her.

gg

LOL!!! She is a good person. AND she has been married for over 15 years to a bloke called John Becquet.

 

[nulla nulla]

I agree, leave her alone. Is the person at the top supposed to stay awake at their post for several days without sleep or food?
In my opinion she did a good job in what unravelled as one of the worst, if not the worst, disasters ever experienced in Australia. You want to blame someone, track down and prosecute the murders that started the fires.

 

[Calliope]

Yes. Leave her alone. Fat people need food regularly. Besides, she said she wasn't needed in the job, and they could do perfectly well without her.

 

[BradK]

Ms Nixon's apology. FFS - just accept it people!!

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/sp...ings-differently/story-e6frf8zo-1225851118893

 

[Calliope]

If this modification had been made before 7 Feb 2009, Ms Nixon could have eased her hunger pangs on the job.

 

[Bushman]

Geez, cheap political point scoring on an excellent public servant.

Unbelievable.

Brad

Don't think that Paul Mullet or Noel Ashby would agree with your assessment.

Storm in a tea cup but the media need to sell papers and police bashing is a favourite.

Now how about Simon Overland boarding a commercial flight with a loaded magazine cartridge in his belongings! Lol.

 

[bassmanpete]

Hey Brad, there's a poll on the Herald Sun page that you linked to and about two thirds of respondents think she should be sacked if she won't resign. How about everyone looking at this thread going and 'fixing' the poll results? Here's the link again if you haven't been there already:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/special-reports/sorry-i-should-have-done-things-differently/story-e6frf8zo-1225851118893

She seems to have given honest answers and hasn't tried to shirk her responsibilities (unlike some others) so I agree with everyone else - leave her alone.

 

[Boyou]

Lets face it.Anything can be politicized to someones advantage/dis advantage

In this case I think Christine Nixon appears to have been doing her job.A lot of the allegations are purely from hindsight.Would the outcome of the fires have been any different if she had been at her desk with a sandwich than at a hotel having dinner?

I saw a news bite last night with a man pleading for rational response to this "issue" He was a victim of the bush fires and basically said the politics only made his grieving harder.

 

[Calliope]

I seemed to have blundered into a Christine Nixon admiration society. Leave her alone? Why? She thrives on publicity, either good or bad, otherwise she wouldn't have marched in the Mardi Gras in full uniform, i.e. not as a private citizen, but representing the Victorian Police Force.

Besides she is a political appointee, and they are fair game, when they stuff up, as the majority of readers of the left leaning Age think she has.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Much of the cheap shots at Ms..Nixon are born out of a desire to punish her for having been a good copper.

gg

 

[JTLP]

Really? Leave her alone.

After they put out her itinerary on what was already deemed to be the worst day for fire in history I think she should at least explain her afternoon/evening decisions.

When things were getting hectic you would think the top of the crop would be wanting to do all they can...not down burgers and work on a biography.

 

[explod]

Much of the cheap shots at Ms..Nixon are born out of a desire to punish her for having been a good copper.

gg

Absolutely GG, I have till now stayed away from this debate for obvious reasons. I remember black saturday. Only a few weeks out of hospital from having my prostate removed, was on a train to Bendigo. It was hot, could see smoke and the day reminded me of many right back through my career to my young days on the farm. On a hot day when the wind beats up from the north there is no stopping such fires. I fought them as a kid, directed people out and around them as a junior cop and was in control rooms helping to oversight in my later days. They always catch authorities off guard, there is never enough manpower and resources in the right places and if there were they would get in each others road and probably more of them perish.

How can we expect a Chief Commissioner to be an expert on every facit, of not only policing but every conceivable emergency to boot. Horses for courses. She would have had an Assistant Comissioner of Operations and his own support staff, there would have been equal on emergency services and in that the connection to the CFA, DFA and probably otherAAA's. Government today of course usurp what used to be purely police and emergency services stuff as they want there nose in too. So you get a small part of the drift. chaos

Now this fire was nothing till after lunch and within an hour it was beyond control and as lives were being lost few knew it was happening let alone the people back in the Melbourne City Centres.

In senior police operational training a huge emphasis is put on Command and Control, it is a real mancho thing in fact (and so it perhaps needs to be). What we do not train for and cannot accept is that some things you can do little about and some people you cannot help. After the event there is always the big shouda (SHOUDAI like that).

As you point out GG, Nixon was good at her human approach. A leader at that level has to fine tune the overall leaderships of all the sections and bits and pieces so they properly perform their respective specialist roles in tune with the overall charter of policing.

Her appointment abraised some huge egos, (I left before her appointment but was a peer with some of the players) so her task would have been extrordinarily difficult and on top of that she was an appointment from interstate (NSW) and a woman. This has happened only once before to my knowledge and that was Niel Comry, however he had been a Victorian Policeman prior to being a Commissioner for a few years in Queensland. (swy its so safe for you GG)

The problem with Black Saturday is that it was Black Saturday Nixon was about and on call if wanted, there is no evidence that anyone had called her and she did not reply. To those calling for the sacking, get over it and move on

 

[explod]

Really? Leave her alone.

After they put out her itinerary on what was already deemed to be the worst day for fire in history I think she should at least explain her afternoon/evening decisions.

When things were getting hectic you would think the top of the crop would be wanting to do all they can...not down burgers and work on a biography.

I challenge that anyone really knew what was going on at that stage. The real extent did not hit home till into the night.

 

[drsmith]

I hope I never get crucified for having a haircut on what would normally be a day off.

 

[Fishbulb]

I agree - leaver her alone. After all, there's dinner to be had.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Absolutely GG, I have till now stayed away from this debate for obvious reasons. I remember black saturday. Only a few weeks out of hospital from having my prostate removed, was on a train to Bendigo. It was hot, could see smoke and the day reminded me of many right back through my career to my young days on the farm. On a hot day when the wind beats up from the north there is no stopping such fires. I fought them as a kid, directed people out and around them as a junior cop and was in control rooms helping to oversight in my later days. They always catch authorities off guard, there is never enough manpower and resources in the right places and if there were they would get in each others road and probably more of them perish.

How can we expect a Chief Commissioner to be an expert on every facit, of not only policing but every conceivable emergency to boot. Horses for courses. She would have had an Assistant Comissioner of Operations and his own support staff, there would have been equal on emergency services and in that the connection to the CFA, DFA and probably otherAAA's. Government today of course usurp what used to be purely police and emergency services stuff as they want there nose in too. So you get a small part of the drift. chaos

Now this fire was nothing till after lunch and within an hour it was beyond control and as lives were being lost few knew it was happening let alone the people back in the Melbourne City Centres.

In senior police operational training a huge emphasis is put on Command and Control, it is a real mancho thing in fact (and so it perhaps needs to be). What we do not train for and cannot accept is that some things you can do little about and some people you cannot help. After the event there is always the big shouda (SHOUDAI like that).

As you point out GG, Nixon was good at her human approach. A leader at that level has to fine tune the overall leaderships of all the sections and bits and pieces so they properly perform their respective specialist roles in tune with the overall charter of policing.

Her appointment abraised some huge egos, (I left before her appointment but was a peer with some of the players) so her task would have been extrordinarily difficult and on top of that she was an appointment from interstate (NSW) and a woman. This has happened only once before to my knowledge and that was Niel Comry, however he had been a Victorian Policeman prior to being a Commissioner for a few years in Queensland. (swy its so safe for you GG)

The problem with Black Saturday is that it was Black Saturday Nixon was about and on call if wanted, there is no evidence that anyone had called her and she did not reply. To those calling for the sacking, get over it and move on

That makes a lot of sense explod, a lot of sense.

Its always easy to be wise in retrospect, and as you say she was not called at any stage during the unfolding disaster which all of Victoria seemed equally unprepared for.

gg