The Health and Fitness Thread

[Pappon]

Once your nuts have shrunk they don't produce the hormones for erections.

You never see these hairless muscle bound wonders in their pictures with big nuts.

Not that I look that closely, but they all seem deficient down that end.

I reckon good water,air, exercise, food and regular sex is the way to go, not all these greeny blue concoctions.

gg

No natural supplements are going to make any males balls shrink sounds like you are a bit clueless on this whole issue and running off on a tangent mate

 

[gav]

One of my mates is a doctor, a specialist in endocrine which is hormones, and he reckons all that stuff you guys take will make your balls shrink to the size of two frozen peas.

He charges over $200 a visit so he should know.

Why look good if your nuts have shrunk?

gg

Which "stuff" did he says causes your "balls to shrink"? None of the natural supplements which you quoted will cause your testicals to shrink.

 

[gav]

Speaking of natural supplements, I don't suppose anyone has tried my green smoothies yet?


I just did a dumbbell workout and following that, as I was making the
smoothie I added some vanilla whey protein to the mix.

Tastes absolutely brilliant!

Todays mix was similar to yesterday.

big handful baby spinach leaves
1/2 starfruit
1/2 lime
1/2 orange
1 lady finger banana
whey protein
water to thin if necessary
optional sweetener to balance the lime - I use a 1/2 tsp agave nectar or
2-3 dates which have been soaked in water.

I'd say there's a decent calorie hit in this mix, but since I'm walking/jogging twice a day now I reckon I can afford it.

Bowman, that is quite a smoothie! I would love to try it, in fact something like that would be ideal post workout. However it would be quite expensive and time consuming! My grocery bill is very expensive, and I spend enough time in the kitchen preparing all my meals as it is. Maybe when I'm on annual leave and I've got a bit more time I'll give it a go!

 

[gav]

What Vitamins/Supplements Do You Take?

As part of this thread, I thought it would be interesting to see what vitamins and supplements ASF members use. I'll get the ball rolling:

Vitamins/Supplements I use every day: (or nearly every day)
- Multi-vitamin: Animal Pak (contains 11 tablets per serve, I have one serve every day)
- Liquid fish oil (10ml per day)
- Swedish bitters (10ml per day)
- Whey protein isolate
- Whey protein concentrate
- Creatine monohydrate
- Biocharge (caffeine free pre workout drink containing amino's and minerals)

Vitamins/Supplements I use, but not every day:
- Inner Health Plus (I take 1 per day for 1 month, then have 2 months off)
- Nutra Life Liver Guard (same as above - 1 month on, 2 months off)
- Glutamine (when feeling sick or dieting for a comp)
- Vitamin C (when feeling sick or dieting for a comp)
- Branch chain amino acids (dieting for comp)
- Green Tea (dieting for comp)
- Hydroxy citric acid (when dieting for comp)

 

[bowman]

Hi gav

I'm fortunate in that I have a few fruit trees growing on my property, so the bananas, starfruit, oranges and limes are free at the moment.

Come spring I will be planting some quick growers like native raspberries, guavas, passionfruit, buleberries etc.

I've put in a lot of green leafy vegies seedlings including silver beet, spinach, Kale, bok choy and winter lettuce.

Also I often pick dandelion leaves and cobblers pegs leaves for the green component of the smoothie from the grounds and on my walks - there's quite a few edible wild greens if you have access to a clean source.

For me the most expensive part is the whey protein.

You can play around with fruit combinations - whatever's on special, and I often freeze fruits (even bananas) for smoothie use.

Just a basic apple, banana, orange mix with some greens is quite nice.

You do need a gutsy blender though, I think mine is 2000W..LOL.

I have to say the vanilla whey protein really adds to the taste and texture, not to mention the protein.

 

[gouryella]

What Vitamins/Supplements Do You Take?

Vitamins/Supplements I use every day:
- BioCeuticals 'Multi Essentials' (multi vitamin)
- BioCeuticals 'Ultra Clean EPA/DHA Plus' (fish oil - 10 per day)
- Nutrimedicine 'Joint Support'
- International Protein 'Superior Whey'
- Green Tea

That's it for me. Pretty basic but I feel as though it's all I need.

 

[gouryella]

Interesting article...

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

What Vitamins/Supplements Do You Take?

Vitamins/Supplements I use every day:
- BioCeuticals 'Multi Essentials' (multi vitamin)
- BioCeuticals 'Ultra Clean EPA/DHA Plus' (fish oil - 10 per day)
- Nutrimedicine 'Joint Support'
- International Protein 'Superior Whey'
- Green Tea

That's it for me. Pretty basic but I feel as though it's all I need.

Pretty Basic,

What a joke.

When I fish I catch some nice reef fish, and they are healthy and fit, and they don't take all your basic mulch.

Where do you find the money to buy food?

gg

 

[gouryella]

Pretty Basic,

What a joke.

When I fish I catch some nice reef fish, and they are healthy and fit, and they don't take all your basic mulch.

Where do you find the money to buy food?

gg

Yes, I would say it's pretty basic in comparison to the list of things other 'gym rats' take. Creatine concoctions, nitric oxide supplements, weight gainers, amino acids, testosterone boosters, thermogenic (fat loss) supplements etc etc...

Not a joke at all.

I guess even my list might look like a lot to your average person who might take a Vitamin C tablet when they have a cold. I do admit that none of things I take are essential in that I could live without them. In reality it costs me bugger all each week, but I get the feeling it would seem more 'normal' to most if I was spending that money on cigarettes.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Yes, I would say it's pretty basic in comparison to the list of things other 'gym rats' take. Creatine concoctions, nitric oxide supplements, weight gainers, amino acids, testosterone boosters, thermogenic (fat loss) supplements etc etc...

Not a joke at all.

I guess even my list might look like a lot to your average person who might take a Vitamin C tablet when they have a cold. I do admit that none of things I take are essential in that I could live without them. In reality it costs me bugger all each week, but I get the feeling it would seem more 'normal' to most if I was spending that money on cigarettes.

Fair comment gouryella,

Garpaldog got slack and arthritic due to normal ageing and all the rain we had, and the vet prescribed some shark fin tablets and fish oil , and he's a new dog.

gg

 

[travwj]

Not a bad thread this one, i just have a read every now and then.

Supps at the moment are
Hydroxy Ripped Protein
NOxplode pre work out
Creatine
WPC night protein.

when trying to lose some weight i stop using creatine and start taking some hydroxycut...hopefully to lose the water that the creatine holds and keep some of the muscle ( hopefully ) that i have gained.

Trav

 

[gav]

Hi Trav,

No need to stop creatine when dieting.

What brand is your "hydroxyripped" protein? You could probably buy a basic protein and hca or green tea tabs, would work out cheaper.

 

[Pappon]

Not a bad thread this one, i just have a read every now and then.

Supps at the moment are
Hydroxy Ripped Protein
NOxplode pre work out
Creatine
WPC night protein.

when trying to lose some weight i stop using creatine and start taking some hydroxycut...hopefully to lose the water that the creatine holds and keep some of the muscle ( hopefully ) that i have gained.

Trav

Yeah i'm with Gav on this one Trawj keep the creatine going

 

[bowman]

This book by Michael Pollan is a must read for anyone who is interested in the origins and content of what they put in their mouth!!!

I just heard an extract on Radio National which focused on 'industrial food' (ie fast food) and even though I consider myself to be reasonably aware, I was gobsmacked by what I heard.

I'll be buying this book immediately.

http://www.michaelpollan.com/omnivore.php

 

[white_goodman]

One of my mates is a doctor, a specialist in endocrine which is hormones, and he reckons all that stuff you guys take will make your balls shrink to the size of two frozen peas.

He charges over $200 a visit so he should know.

Why look good if your nuts have shrunk?

gg

thats retarded, natural testosterone only shuts down if your on the anabolics..

and your package would also look 'deficient' if your legs were twice the size they are currently... they are defficient proportionally thats all...

 

[gouryella]

There was a show on SBS last night called Food Investigators. They put a couple on the Paleolithic diet for a couple of weeks.

From memory, they both lost around 5-6kg. The woman lost ~4kg of fat and ~1kg of muscle, the man lost ~1.5kg of fat and ~4kg of muscle. I found it interesting that the male lost that much muscle in comparison to his wife.

No doubt the figures would have been a lot better in terms of the muscle/fat loss ratio if they had included resistance training, rather than relying solely on diet.

 

[MrBurns]

I got a stress fracture in my foot a few weeks ago, it was discovered by my physio ordering an MRI, not my doctorwho ordered an xray (on my suggestion), then did no more when the OK result came in, he thought it must be a strain.

The physio also referred me to a rheumatologist, a really good, one who ordered a group of tests and guess what?, my Vitamin D count is less than half what it should be.
This probably accounts for the stress fracture and general muscle fatigue I've experienced lately. I'm now on a high dose of D and will start to improve almost immediately. If it wasn't for my physio being on the ball I done know were this would have ended,

Always get other opinions is all I can say.

 

[kincella]

Fair comment gouryella,

Garpaldog got slack and arthritic due to normal ageing and all the rain we had, and the vet prescribed some shark fin tablets and fish oil , and he's a new dog.

gg

well I was giving my puppy the Shark cartilage chews....little pieces of air dried shark cartilage....she loved them....until one day she nearly choked...
but I have to find an alternative...do not like tablets....maybe some powder to add to her food...she jumps a lot...and the idea is to save her bones while she is young...so she avoids the patella troubles as she gets older...

http://www.vetsallnatural.net/products.html

 

[Julia]

well I was giving my puppy the Shark cartilage chews....little pieces of air dried shark cartilage....she loved them....until one day she nearly choked...
but I have to find an alternative...do not like tablets....maybe some powder to add to her food...she jumps a lot...and the idea is to save her bones while she is young...so she avoids the patella troubles as she gets older...

http://www.vetsallnatural.net/products.html

I use this in my Shepherd. She had a dodgy elbow joint as a puppy and developed early arthritis in it around a year ago. Was giving her glucosamine with some success but she still limped if she did much running or jumping.
Was advised to change her to the combination product glucosamine with chondroitin and the limp has completely gone. She can do whatever she likes and there's no problem.
What I'm using is the Wagner brand and I buy the powder. So easy to just mix in with the food. Buying the 1kg amount is reasonably cost effective.

Crushing tablets is a pain.
Really recommend it.

 

[Tink]

Good to hear you got a second opinion Mr Burns : )
Always the best thing to do..

Alot of people are low in Vitamin D and wouldnt know it..