The Health and Fitness Thread

[bowman]

I'm totally sold on my daily 'green smoothie' fix. It's become as much a part of my routine as the walking and dumbbell exercises.

Green leafy vegetables are a powerhouse of vitamins, minerals, fibre and protein. Ditto for fresh fruits.

If you combine them together in a blended smoothie you will get a massive daily hit of nutrition in a surprisingly tasty package.

I'm using seasonal fruits and right now my favourite addition is limes. They add a fresh tangy flavour to the smoothie. Sweeter fruits like bananas, pears, apple etc. will give a good flavour balance.

This mornings smoothie:

Big handful of mixed greens
1 Lady Finger Banana
1/2 Lime
1/2 Starfruit
1/2 Orange
(water if necessary to make a thinner drink)

This link is an excellent site for discovering the nutritional aspects of a big range of foods. Just enter the food name in the search engine.

http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/2461/2

 

[gav]

i dont know ive never tried them and i dont buy supps from Australia, overpriced crap if you ask me, stuff like the whole Gaspari range.. superdrol etc...

im quite happy cycling creatine and having plain whey and waxy maize atm, just eating more...

im still doing PB's quite consistently in my 3 lift total.. (squat, dead, bench) with reduced supplementation

Pro H's are out of the question for me, due to the federations I compete in.

Supp brands such as Gaspari, etc are American brands and are very expensive over here.

I've tried WMS (waxy maize starch), however found it gave me an upset stomach. I used to use glucose powder in my protein shake post workout, but recently switched to fruit (usually a banana, but not put in my shake). Fructose replenishes glycogen in the liver better than any other carb. If your liver doesn't have enough glycogen, it will pull it from your muscles (a mistake I made last time I dieted for a comp). Plus you get the added benefit of vitamins/minerals from fruit.

For what we are aiming to acheive, diet is far more important than any supplement, so that's where the vast majority of your $$$ should be spent. I have cut back quite a bit on supp's too (although I still take quite a bit compared to most)

 

[bowman]

Hey gav

What would you recommend as the primary supplement for someone like me who is just trying to improve their level of fitness, reduce body fat through good nutrition and build a bit of muscle mass.

 

[Pappon]

Hey gav

What would you recommend as the primary supplement for someone like me who is just trying to improve their level of fitness, reduce body fat through good nutrition and build a bit of muscle mass.

To build muscle go for glutamine, BCAAs and creatine.
Fat loss don't rely on any of them just keep your diet in check bowman and you will reap the rewards

 

[bowman]

Thanks pappon

The diet and exercise are pretty well under control, although I want to slowly bump up my dumbbell workouts.

I'll check those supplements out. I have some whey protein but I reckon I am getting enough protein through my diet anyway.

 

[Green08]

I was a member of Fitness First and before then Healthlands. @10years

I've never been so fit or utterly exhausted building a house and rounding the cows up on gumboot.

 

[bowman]

I was a member of Fitness First and before then Healthlands. @10years

I've never been so fit or utterly exhausted building a house and rounding the cows up on gumboot.

LOL

I walk past a lot of cows on my morning and afternoon walks. They stare at me with a vacant look on their face, and I reciprocate.

It's a comfortable relationship, but I suspect that cows are dumb as dirt.

 

[bowman]

I bought another one of the Essene sprouted grain breads, but this time it was a grain called Kamut, which I confess I had never heard of before.

I prefer this flavour to their sprouted wheat bread and apparently Kamut is packed with significantly more protein and vitamins than wheat.

Next I'll try their spelt bread.

http://www.allaboutbread.com.au/kamut.htm

 

[white_goodman]

Hey gav

What would you recommend as the primary supplement for someone like me who is just trying to improve their level of fitness, reduce body fat through good nutrition and build a bit of muscle mass.

the primary supplement would be a good steak haha... I eat a few nagaroo steaks daily, whole (non powdered) will do more than any supplement....

I guess if you have your heart set on supps id reccomend BCAA's, whey or casein protein (i consider more a food then supp) and a good quality multi vitamin... Animal Pak ive had in the past as its pretty good, the run of the mill chemist multi's arent potent enuff imo, they are like minimal requirement type doses...

Gav - ive been using dextrose, maltodextrin and waxy maize for a while now, allows be to restrict my carbs in other meals and still have enough energy for my lifts, and its instant absorbtion practically.

 

[gav]

Hey gav

What would you recommend as the primary supplement for someone like me who is just trying to improve their level of fitness, reduce body fat through good nutrition and build a bit of muscle mass.

As you would already know, diet is the most important factor. A supplement is just that - it "supplements" your diet. For someone with your goals I would make sure you are getting enough protein in your diet. Pappon and White Goodman have made some good suggestions.

Personally I'd recommend:
- Whey protein
- Creatine
- Fish oil
- Green Tea

White Goodman - I also use Animal Pak multi's. They are quite pricey, but they are fantastic.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

I bought another one of the Essene sprouted grain breads, but this time it was a grain called Kamut, which I confess I had never heard of before.

I prefer this flavour to their sprouted wheat bread and apparently Kamut is packed with significantly more protein and vitamins than wheat.

Next I'll try their spelt bread.

http://www.allaboutbread.com.au/kamut.htm

the primary supplement would be a good steak haha... I eat a few nagaroo steaks daily, whole (non powdered) will do more than any supplement....

I guess if you have your heart set on supps id reccomend BCAA's, whey or casein protein (i consider more a food then supp) and a good quality multi vitamin... Animal Pak ive had in the past as its pretty good, the run of the mill chemist multi's arent potent enuff imo, they are like minimal requirement type doses...

Gav - ive been using dextrose, maltodextrin and waxy maize for a while now, allows be to restrict my carbs in other meals and still have enough energy for my lifts, and its instant absorbtion practically.

As you would already know, diet is the most important factor. A supplement is just that - it "supplements" your diet. For someone with your goals I would make sure you are getting enough protein in your diet. Pappon and White Goodman have made some good suggestions.

Personally I'd recommend:
- Whey protein
- Creatine
- Fish oil
- Green Tea

White Goodman - I also use Animal Pak multi's. They are quite pricey, but they are fantastic.

One of my mates is a doctor, a specialist in endocrine which is hormones, and he reckons all that stuff you guys take will make your balls shrink to the size of two frozen peas.

He charges over $200 a visit so he should know.

Why look good if your nuts have shrunk?

gg

 

[kitehigh]

One of my mates is a doctor, a specialist in endocrine which is hormones, and he reckons all that stuff you guys take will make your balls shrink to the size of two frozen peas.

He charges over $200 a visit so he should know.

Why look good if your nuts have shrunk?

gg

Once you have had kids its best to get those nuts removed anyway and replaced with silicon sacks.

 

[Pappon]

One of my mates is a doctor, a specialist in endocrine which is hormones, and he reckons all that stuff you guys take will make your balls shrink to the size of two frozen peas.

He charges over $200 a visit so he should know.

Why look good if your nuts have shrunk?

gg

Haha the reccomended supplements for Bowman here are natural Garpal your friend was talking about anabolic steroids.
Natural supplements such as creatine, glutamine, fish oil, green tea, whey protein all reccomended to Bowman will have no effect on increasing natural testosterone levels and hence will not shut down his natural testosterone levels.

Creatine works on increasing ATP stores for shorts energy bursts ie weight training. Glutamine is essential to the immune system to prevent overtraining and helps protein synthesis.

 

[MrBurns]

One of my mates is a doctor, a specialist in endocrine which is hormones, and he reckons all that stuff you guys take will make your balls shrink to the size of two frozen peas.

He charges over $200 a visit so he should know.

Why look good if your nuts have shrunk?

gg

Ok count me in it would be great to see them that big again, I was married for 20 years.

Does that include HGH ??? could you ask him ??? because i'm still very interested in that , looking for an excuse to give it a go.

 

[Pappon]

Ok count me in it would be great to see them that big again, I was married for 20 years.

Does that include HGH ??? could you ask him ??? because i'm still very interested in that , looking for an excuse to give it a go.

No hgh does not do that.

 

[MrBurns]

No hgh does not do that.

Ok so I guess I'll go further with it, will run it past my GP first, just to see the reaction. Wont do it if it will send me brioke because that will age me and counteract the effects of the HGH........

 

[Pappon]

Ok so I guess I'll go further with it, will run it past my GP first, just to see the reaction. Wont do it if it will send me brioke because that will age me and counteract the effects of the HGH........

HAHA. Do yourself a favor ask a doctor who is openminded, most GP's treat most people like that are idiots even when they are well researched and have explained themselves

 

[bowman]

Speaking of natural supplements, I don't suppose anyone has tried my green smoothies yet?


I just did a dumbbell workout and following that, as I was making the
smoothie I added some vanilla whey protein to the mix.

Tastes absolutely brilliant!

Todays mix was similar to yesterday.

big handful baby spinach leaves
1/2 starfruit
1/2 lime
1/2 orange
1 lady finger banana
whey protein
water to thin if necessary
optional sweetener to balance the lime - I use a 1/2 tsp agave nectar or
2-3 dates which have been soaked in water.

I'd say there's a decent calorie hit in this mix, but since I'm walking/jogging twice a day now I reckon I can afford it.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Haha the reccomended supplements for Bowman here are natural Garpal your friend was talking about anabolic steroids.
Natural supplements such as creatine, glutamine, fish oil, green tea, whey protein all reccomended to Bowman will have no effect on increasing natural testosterone levels and hence will not shut down his natural testosterone levels.

Creatine works on increasing ATP stores for shorts energy bursts ie weight training. Glutamine is essential to the immune system to prevent overtraining and helps protein synthesis.

Ok count me in it would be great to see them that big again, I was married for 20 years.

Does that include HGH ??? could you ask him ??? because i'm still very interested in that , looking for an excuse to give it a go.

Once your nuts have shrunk they don't produce the hormones for erections.

You never see these hairless muscle bound wonders in their pictures with big nuts.

Not that I look that closely, but they all seem deficient down that end.

I reckon good water,air, exercise, food and regular sex is the way to go, not all these greeny blue concoctions.

gg

 

[MrBurns]

Just found out i have a stress fracture in my right foot (MRI yesterday) so what can I do wearing one of those freeking boots for 4 weeks ?