Biggest Loser 2009

[springhill]

Or maybe molested, raped, locked up in a cage or bullied there entire life by righteous individuals, or their drug addicted parents. Not the perfect little daddy and mummy you came home to.

What an absolute pile of ****. U, mate, are an apologist, and one of the worst order. To make your argument you resort to the worst of the worst reasons to make your point. Your attempt to make others feel guilt or a softening of their stance by mentioning rape and molestation is low, an attempt at psychological manipulation and an indication of your weak argument
Go get a job in the Govt you'd make a great spin doctor.... even though your BS wouldnt work on me

Ill thankyou to leave my parents out of you, you know nothing of my childhood.... another low act

 

[Calliope]

And what was your point? It wasn't focused on Glutony.

To address the original point on the contestants which I did mentioned were designed to fulfill your misconceptions.

My point was derogatory comments are not required to prove any point and simply insulting.

Springhill has got your measure so I won't go over that ground, except to endorse that you are full of garbage. You attempt to hide your nastiness behind a moralistic holier-than-thou facade, but your insulting denigration of people you don't like (for whatever reason) exposes your hypocrisy.

And you still haven't explained why you do what you do with the carrots.

 

[shaunQ]

Your attempt to make others feel guilt or a softening of their stance by mentioning rape and molestation is low

Merely an example of horrible, horrible things that society and people to do people - only for you to come a long and laugh at them. These may be the extremes, but there is hundreds of other lower but just as traumatic events that can happen in someones life.

an indication of your weak argument

I am not arguing anything. I am simply saying people deserve respect. You choose to disagree.

Ill thankyou to leave my parents out of you, you know nothing of my childhood.... another low act

Yes, it hurts when people make judgement calls when they have NO IDEA about the circumstances or life. Just like you mate, you are the lowest. Shall we go into all your disgusting characteristics as well?

Yes - obviously there is a sh#t load of overweight* people out there that friggen eat to much.... no sh#t.

 

[springhill]

Merely an example of horrible, horrible things that society and people to do people - only for you to come a long and laugh at them. These may be the extremes, but there is hundreds of other lower but just as traumatic events that can happen in someones life.



I am not arguing anything. I am simply saying people deserve respect. You choose to disagree.



Yes, it hurts when people make judgement calls when they have NO IDEA about the circumstances or life. Just like you mate, you are the lowest. Shall we go into all your disgusting characteristics as well?

Yes - obviously there is a sh#t load of overweight* people out there that friggen eat to much.... no sh#t.

Yes because it comes out of your slack jaw it MUST be true
Several points
1. show me the piece of text where i laughed
2. you are not saying they deserve respect you are digging for excuses
3. i kept my comments general until you went specific about my parents

Feel free to judge me, im not fussed at all, rather amused by it
When you do so though just remember its soft, weak people like you that are bringing society to its knees

 

[shaunQ]

Back some posts either you or some other poster suggested some obesity may be caused by thyroid disease. If someone has an underactive thyroid it is easily corrected by the taking of thyroxin. So strike that cause.

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Yes 3% of the population have some form of hypothyroidism. (There is also hyper). But it is commonly not diagnosed. I can tell you first hand that it took one friend over 15 years to be properly diagnosed. Doctors just put you on diets, and point you to every rip off under the sun.

But let's look at what's commonly called 'comfort eating': what people do when they are miserable and find temporary solace in food. Wouldn't it be better to get some counselling to outline the source of the misery/depression, and then learn some techniques for differently dealing with the problem?

Absolutely, and I would put this at the lower end of eating disorder. I don't disagree there is a level of personal responsibility required. But it is slightly different to say, smoking, as society effectively discourages participation.

One of your points with which I really agree is the parental environment which endorses childhood obesity, i.e. the parents have few clues about good nutrition, so allow their children to also become fat.

Yes, and excuse it as thats they way they were.

If weighing kids at school and referring those outside normal range to a nutritionist for advice and support is the only way to counteract uncaring parents, then let's do it.
Wouldn't it be better for a kid to be teased (if that necessarily does happen) for a while until they get the weight under control than be obese for life, with all the health and social outcomes that implies?

You were obviously never the laughing stock of the school, for your entire life. This is the exactly wrong way to do it. It needs to be done with care or else your just going to make things worse because in most cases it is a psychological issue.

Diabetes and other obesity related diseases are increasing exponentially.
Quite apart from the misery for affected individuals, these diseases are filling our hospitals and using up tax dollars which could be spent on something more rewarding.

Totally agree. Perhaps calling them fat pigs doesn't just inspire them to go and get healthy after all.. Perhaps a rethink?

 

[shaunQ]

Yes because it comes out of your slack jaw it MUST be true
Several points
1. show me the piece of text where i laughed
2. you are not saying they deserve respect you are digging for excuses
3. i kept my comments general until you went specific about my parents

Feel free to judge me, im not fussed at all, rather amused by it
When you do so though just remember its soft, weak people like you that are bringing society to its knees

Hmm. Okay. What we need is more school bullys!. BooYa! I think its actually called maturity as there is no weaker person than someone who picks on someone else simply because they are different. My only concern with this thread was the brush you were painting at all those lard arses.

You attempt to hide your nastiness behind a moralistic holier-than-thou facade, but your insulting denigration of people you don't like (for whatever reason) exposes your hypocrisy..

Absolutely, fight fire with fire and the right wing nature of this site is always going to get on my nerves. I give respect to those who others.

Oh.... and the carrot.!!! Yes, I think it comes enclosed with ASF membership.

 

[Calliope]

Hmm. Okay. What we need is more school bullys!. BooYa! I think its actually called maturity as there is no weaker person than someone who picks on someone else simply because they are different. My only concern with this thread was the brush you were painting at all those lard arses.



Absolutely, fight fire with fire and the right wing nature of this site is always going to get on my nerves. I give respect to those who others.

Oh.... and the carrot.!!! Yes, I think it comes enclosed with ASF membership.

I don't think you, of all people, can talk about maturity. Your posts have descended to juvenile drivel. With your sneering know-it-all attitude I am not surprised that you were the laughing stock at your school. Did the nasty right wing boys get on your nerves or did your sanctimonious attitude get on their nerves?

 

[shaunQ]

I don't think you, of all people, can talk about maturity. Your posts have descended to juvenile drivel. With your sneering know-it-all attitude I am not surprised that you were the laughing stock at your school. Did the nasty right wing boys get on your nerves or did your sanctimonious attitude get on their nerves?

I match the level of the thread I am on. Juvenile, on occasions absolutely, but I only post on threads I either have experience or interest in. And lol, unfortunetly wasn't picked on at school, and did some name calling myself, but have a close friend (girl) who was.

Look - I am not trying to say you can't call someone fat, or any other derogatory term you want to use - I am saying that people like you do exactly the same thing to people to their face knowing nothing about a person. If you know they are a pig. Fine. There is a hell of a lot of glutenous "skinny" pigs out there

 

[Calliope]

Look - I am not trying to say you can't call someone fat, or any other derogatory term you want to use - I am saying that people like you do exactly the same thing to people to their face knowing nothing about a person.

I assume that when you refer to people like me you mean people who do not share you leftist ideology. With all your interest and experience, (and apparently you fancy yourself as an amateur psychologist) I am surprised that you expect everybody to share your wimpish attitudes. Grow up.

 

[shaunQ]

I assume that when you refer to people like me you mean people who do not share you leftist ideology. With all your interest and experience, (and apparently you fancy yourself as an amateur psychologist) I am surprised that you expect everybody to share your wimpish attitudes.

No, by people like you, I mean, people who stereotype overweight people. By experience I mean seeing first hand the long term effects of what people like you have had on someones self esteem and well being, hearing their stories, and their opinions on ideas like NSW school weighing. Its sad that you see empathy as Leftist, when really I think its just a personal trait.

I don't expect in anyway you would share my attitude. Otherwise you wouldn't have originally posted what you posted.

 

[Happy]

Our democracy and general freedom to do what we feel like is probably partially responsible for some people to be morbidly obese, some people burn holes in their brains abusing drugs others shortening life expectancy by 17 years using other techniques.

Mechanisms available to us now virtually, prevent us from almost any intervention as it can be senn as abuse of civil rights down to racism.

I do not have any of the problems and despite that I have some answers I cannot even dare to air them even on our humble forum.

Might have to bomb out of this thread, there is nothing more to say, unless we keep running in circles, like on property up/down threads.

 

[Calliope]

ShaunQ. Some people would consider it annoying to be lectured by a wet behind the ears, amateur psychologist like you, but I now think that you are the one that needs help.

You have got yourself in quite a tizzy just because you have empathy with gluttons and I don't. You say that I stereotype overweight people. Thats an invention of yours. You are the one doing the stereotyping.

I hope you never have to cope with a real problem.