Biggest Loser 2009

[springhill]

UNBELIEVABLE! Just watching Biggest Loser, this year they have introduced 2 bracelets. If you are wearing the gold one at the time of winning, you double your prize money.... if you are wearing the second bracelet at the time of winning, you get nothing
One blob, upon finding this out, said "its hard to believe you could do all this work and walk away with nothing" nothing, NOTHING? I was absolutely disgusted and turned it straight off. The person who said this shouldve been thrown out immediately. What the hell are some of these people on here for? Money!
Apparently their health, self esteem, living longer for themselves and family = nothing
Having said that, the vast majority werent interested in the gold bracelet, kudos to them
Reality TV at its absolute worst

 

[1080p]

I actually like the US version that crams a weeks worth of stuff into 2 hours per week rather than an 1 hour each day... Aussie TV is at an all time low of ripped off low budget reality crap.

 

[xyzedarteerf]

how can they call this type of shows reality when right from the moment they joined they already know there are cameras watching them you can tell that some of the things that these people do are all an act, most of the cast are probably related to the production team in some way or another.

Just like Big Brother was its all edited and portrayed in a way to sucker people in on watching the show. I would not be surprised if some people who joined purposely gained some weight.

now let's have some of those snacks.

 

[Ashsaege]

I thought the show was over in the first episode... when the fattest lady there sang!

I think the show is brilliant in that it will change and save people's lives. But at the same time i cannot stand to watch it... too much crying and winging. Also I hate the way that the contests narrate everything! They always state the obvious!

 

[Calliope]

This show is an obscenity. If you want to see lardarses just go to the supermarket.

 

[knocker]

This show is an obscenity. If you want to see lardarses just go to the supermarket.

Or anywhere for that matter. And things will get worse now that it is so much cheaper to buy maccas than real food. Oh well.

 

[Happy]

This show is an obscenity. If you want to see lardarses just go to the supermarket.

Couple of days ago it was mentioned that obese children would be taken away from parents
>Next stolen generation compensations possible later on<

But it made me wonder why children only?

All lardbeings could benefit not to mention all the community by lowering pressure on battling Medicare.

 

[Calliope]

Obviously many overweight parents despair of raising children that can compete on the multitude of discovery shows for singers, models and dancers.
Shows like Biggest Loser give them something to aspire to.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25019875-36398,00.html

 

[Nyden]

This show is an obscenity. If you want to see lardarses just go to the supermarket.

They're not fat Cal, that's politically incorrect. They are, as a fact - curvaceous, voluptuous, and beautiful. 100KGs of big bones, you know - they're "real" women (and men).

Being thin, healthy, and aesthetically pleasing is apparently an unrealistic expectation for the young of today. What nonsense, get on a treadmill, and stop eating McDonald's every day.

I just hope our governments don't finally give in, and ban fast food. I do so enjoy it every now and again, I just have the restraint as to not eat it on a daily basis.

 

[Julia]

There was an item on one of the news sites a few days ago where a 165kg woman (I can't begin to imagine someone that heavy!) was forced to buy two airline seats.

Long may it continue. I don't see why people of a more healthy weight should have their space on aircraft usurped by their neighbour's rolls of fat.

 

[springhill]

There was an item on one of the news sites a few days ago where a 165kg woman (I can't begin to imagine someone that heavy!) was forced to buy two airline seats.

Long may it continue. I don't see why people of a more healthy weight should have their space on aircraft usurped by their neighbour's rolls of fat.

The funny thing about this is the seats were in different rows

 

[GumbyLearner]

There was an item on one of the news sites a few days ago where a 165kg woman (I can't begin to imagine someone that heavy!) was forced to buy two airline seats.

Long may it continue. I don't see why people of a more healthy weight should have their space on aircraft usurped by their neighbour's rolls of fat.

Who knows maybe in the future people they may charge people an additional fee similar to baggage limits?

 

[shaunQ]

Obviously this is about the Biggest Loser, whose contestants are chosen to match your stereotypical view of an overweight person, so themselves aren't the best role-models.

However, I don't think there is any reason to be rude about any ones personal situation. Its not about political correctness, There are many medical conditions that than can cause weight gain. Not all overweight people, even some that may be 165Kg or more are fat slobs. Not only things like Thyriod problems but psychological disorders as well.

Perhaps if people like yourself didn't stigmatize, belittle and stereotype these people, just like you used to in the playground, they may have more hope of competing with your perfection.

And no, I'm not overweight, but think its very sad to see such horrible, derogatory comments from some with carrots stuck so far up my rear they will never see there own imperfections.

 

[GumbyLearner]

That's a fair call ShaunQ.

I'm not so sure about the carrots though.

The point is it all comes back to self-discipline and self-responsibility.

I will give you a classic example.

Why is it that Aussie's or Kiwi's are restricted to a baggage limit when they travel to North Asia of 20kg of luggage? Yet at the same time a traveller from North America is allowed to carry 50 kg of luggage? I'm not pointing the finger at anyone.

All I'm asking is, why should people who weigh less have to restrict their wardrobe and pay the same or a similar fare? As those people who are carrying more (weight, whether it be part of their physical anatomy or as part of their wardrobe) than anyone else get a better deal?

Yes I know if you travel to North Asia, there are trade winds involved and planes have to burn through more gas than say someone travelling solely within the Northern Hemisphere.

So why the better deal?

I know I'm presenting an empirical argument. But I bet the airlines use accountants trained to use empiricial methods to calculate their costs.

So why should the non-obese pay more? :

 

[Calliope]

And no, I'm not overweight, but think its very sad to see such horrible, derogatory comments from some with carrots stuck so far up my rear they will never see there own imperfections.

As usual in your phony compassionate moralising way you have completely missed the point. Unlike you, I think gluttony should be derided, along with the other deadly sins, which no doubt you can also make excuses for.

And who are you blaming for inserting the carrots in your rear. Surely this is self-inflicted.

 

[springhill]

As usual in your phony compassionate moralising way you have completely missed the point. Unlike you, I think gluttony should be derided, along with the other deadly sins, which no doubt you can also make excuses for.

And who are you blaming for inserting the carrots in your rear. Surely this is self-inflicted.

Nicely put Calliope (try putting the carrot in your mouth instead of your ass, its the way nature intended it), society is full of excuse makers and bleeding hearts and im sick to death of them. Nothing is ever anyones own fault. Maybe its because daddy didnt come watch you play cricket when you were 10, or mummy didnt read you bedtime stories. BS you are in control of your own destiny

Putting on weight is a simple equation calories in vs calories out. Im not saying that there arent certain medical conditions that lead to weight gain, but what percentage of porkers does this encompass 5% maybe? The rest are fat due to laziness, lack of motivation and wallowing in self-pity (and ice cream)

 

[GumbyLearner]

Nicely put Calliope (try putting the carrot in your mouth instead of your ass, its the way nature intended it), society is full of excuse makers and bleeding hearts and im sick to death of them. Nothing is ever anyones own fault. Maybe its because daddy didnt come watch you play cricket when you were 10, or mummy didnt read you bedtime stories. BS you are in control of your own destiny

Putting on weight is a simple equation calories in vs calories out. Im not saying that there arent certain medical conditions that lead to weight gain, but what percentage of porkers does this encompass 5% maybe? The rest are fat due to laziness, lack of motivation and wallowing in self-pity (and ice cream)

That's a great answer SH. But don't expect me to ever pay income tax for the well-off knob welfarist class who attend the greater private school system in Australia. I don't care whether they are well-connected, fat, stupid or left-wing red ragger, I refuse to pay for their **** or the **** they eat!

 

[Happy]

Obviously this is about the Biggest Loser, whose contestants are chosen to match your stereotypical view of an overweight person, so themselves aren't the best role-models.

However, I don't think there is any reason to be rude about any ones personal situation. Its not about political correctness, There are many medical conditions that than can cause weight gain. Not all overweight people, even some that may be 165Kg or more are fat slobs. Not only things like Thyriod problems but psychological disorders as well.

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If this is the case why they don’t see medical help before they reach weight outside bathroom scales limit.

Also if this is not political correctness, why medical professionals, friends, family, neighbours don’t offer assistance to ask for help?

Also medical condition is probably feel good shield that every morbidly obese person actually might happen to be one of them (fat chance ).

 

[shaunQ]

As usual in your phony compassionate moralising way you have completely missed the point. Unlike you, I think gluttony should be derided, along with the other deadly sins, which no doubt you can also make excuses for.

And what was your point? It wasn't focused on Glutony.

To address the original point on the contestants which I did mentioned were designed to fulfill your misconceptions. But,

What the hell are some of these people on here for? Money!

They are on a commercial television show, designed to make a profit for channel 10. They are in essence - the talent of the show. Just like all reality TV, they are far, far from reality.

My point was derogatory comments are not required to prove any point and simply insulting. Over eating is just one reason for weight gain. Most people can really eat what they like as their motabilsm allows them to do so. A high majority of highly obese people - yes, the people you scoff at whilst shopping, have a disorder, either physical or mental.

Its like saying alcoholics all went clubbing and partied to much. Disregaring the social, mental and economic causes. Obesity is more prevalent in the lower class, many have been overweight since childhood and evidence of hereditary obesity.

Its brilliant people like yourselves that come up with solutions like was touted by the NSW Government. To weigh children at school. Sounds great. In reality, the children all line up to be "weighed", and they gossip about the fatsos and tease and place more shame and pain on the innocent child. So, they hide away and eat in a corner. Noone plays with them. They are the last to be picked at everything. If they stand next to a skinny boy, its "fatty and skinny" walking along. So, better not to go anywhere really, just stay at home and stop the glares and judgemental hurtful snipes.

You see, you've never seen someone, struggle against their weight, but not because of over eating, to struggle against society and your misguided disgust for all overweight people, to be embarresed to go out. To be embarresed to eat in public. To be hesitant to dress up as what's the use. To have so little self confidence and no true non-judgemental support. (Even doctors just assume your a pig)

Nothing is ever anyones own fault. Maybe its because daddy didnt come watch you play cricket when you were 10, or mummy didnt read you bedtime stories. BS you are in control of your own destiny

Or maybe molested, raped, locked up in a cage or bullied there entire life by righteous individuals, or their drug addicted parents. Not the perfect little daddy and mummy you came home to.

but what percentage of porkers does this encompass 5% maybe?

Nicely put. A high percentage of obese people have either a medical or psychological disorder. You say this is to make them feel better, but again why is that so many people can really eat what they like (me included) and not gain excessive weight. If it were sooooo simple - do you think it would be such a problem?

If this is the case why they don’t see medical help before they reach weight outside bathroom scales limit..

Children rarely take themselves to the doctor. And most parents say, oh, there just like me. Big boned. By the time anything can be done, the psychological damage is done. And it is very, very hard to change or help yourself.

I too hate seeing an overweight person stuffing there face full of food, glutony is truly disgusting. But what is more disgusting is the persecuting gang mentality which this thread is displaying. Which frankly is no better than calling disabled people retards, spastics and freaks. Ok - so that may be politically correct, but really its just about being nice and talking about issues like obesity and other illnesses with a level of descency and taste.

 

[Julia]

Shaun, you make some reasonable points.

Back some posts either you or some other poster suggested some obesity may be caused by thyroid disease. If someone has an underactive thyroid it is easily corrected by the taking of thyroxin. So strike that cause.

There are certainly quite a few people struggling with weight gain because they need to take steroids for, e.g. asthma. Steroids can cause increased appetite and weight gain in some people.

But let's look at what's commonly called 'comfort eating': what people do when they are miserable and find temporary solace in food. Wouldn't it be better to get some counselling to outline the source of the misery/depression, and then learn some techniques for differently dealing with the problem?

We seem to be living in a culture which seeks to medicalise much which is really a case of basic human responsibility and self discipline. It's similar to looking for someone to blame when anything goes wrong in our lives.

One of your points with which I really agree is the parental environment which endorses childhood obesity, i.e. the parents have few clues about good nutrition, so allow their children to also become fat. But this cycle has to stop somewhere for a change to be made. If weighing kids at school and referring those outside normal range to a nutritionist for advice and support is the only way to counteract uncaring parents, then let's do it.
Wouldn't it be better for a kid to be teased (if that necessarily does happen) for a while until they get the weight under control than be obese for life, with all the health and social outcomes that implies?

Diabetes and other obesity related diseases are increasing exponentially.
Quite apart from the misery for affected individuals, these diseases are filling our hospitals and using up tax dollars which could be spent on something more rewarding.