University killing in USA

[bel532]

Well hell I think the english language is a F***ing joke for a start!!

Your English writing skills are so admirable. It's that the only word you could consuier to express your point of view. I wonder if your verbal skills are any better. I doubt it.

 

[wayneL]

Your English writing skills are so admirable. It's that the only word you could consuier to express your point of view. I wonder if your verbal skills are any better. I doubt it.

Trivial Pursuit:

Did you know that "fart" used to be the polite term for passing wind?

Even Michel de Montaigne the French nobleman and philosopher regularly used vulgar terminology in his "Essays".

Swearing is with us, is such a minor transgression compared to general hard-heartedness; accept it.

 

[constable]

Your English writing skills are so admirable. It's that the only word you could consuier to express your point of view. I wonder if your verbal skills are any better. I doubt it.

"It's that the only word you could........"
Hmmm great writings skills there , try editing your insults b4 u post!

 

[bel532]

Are you the same bel352 that advocates that the Americans bomb anyone that disagrees with them...or that they deem troublesome to them ?
If so,you must have a sneaking admiration for the gunman in this killing spree.He did not negotiate ...just shot the living daylights out of them.
Do you deem violence as a first resort acceptable?
Perhaps this murderer gained inspiration from Rambo,Bruce Willis,Arnie Schwarzenegger,the Coalition of the Willing,posts on ASF...who knows?
You wanted the Americans to bomb the Iranians as a first resort...blessed are the peacemakers....
I think that anyone that has had even a passing acquaintance with violence tries to avoid it ...there are some that are fascinated by it,as long as they are not on the receiving end of course !

What on earth are you rambling on about? Where did I state that I wanted the Americans to bomb the Iranians as a first resort? Where did I state that I deem that violence as a first resort is acceptable? However I do state that it is accepable as a pre-emptive strike, if you have credible evidence that you, or your country, is about to be attacked eg Pearl Harbour, 9/11 etc.

Perhaps this murderer gained INSPIRATION, not from American TV, but from all those Muslim fanatics who are constantly on a REAL killing, murdering spree, which includeds their own brethern. I am sure you admire them, after all they are NOT Americans.

 

[wayneL]

What on earth are you rambling on about? Where did I state that I wanted the Americans to bomb the Iranians as a first resort? Where did I state that I deem that violence as a first resort is acceptable? However I do state that it is accepable as a pre-emptive strike, if you have credible evidence that you, or your country, is about to be attacked eg Pearl Harbour, 9/11 etc.

How about attacking a country where there was no proof of any sort of credible evidence of any sort of attack, like...................... Iraq?

Perhaps this murderer gained INSPIRATION, not from American TV, but from all those Muslim fanatics who are constantly on a killing, murdering spree, which includeds their own brethern. I am sure you admire them, after all they are NOT Americans

This is called spin.... of the extremely transparent and incredible variety. Hell, even Bill O'Reilly didn't think of that! lol

 

[nizar]

Perhaps this murderer gained INSPIRATION, not from American TV, but from all those Muslim fanatics who are constantly on a REAL killing, murdering spree, which includeds their own brethern. I am sure you admire them, after all they are NOT Americans.

THis is hilarious - i never met anybody who was so fooled by the media.
Do some REAL research buddy before posting - and i mean more than watching CNN and channel 9.
Your making a fool of yourself.

 

[bel532]

How about attacking a country where there was no proof of any sort of credible evidence of any sort of attack, like...................... Iraq?


This is called spin.... of the extremely transparent and incredible variety. Hell, even Bill O'Reilly didn't think of that! lol

I repeat, where did I advocate violence as a first resort under ANY circumstances? Stop blowing your horn or you will get a hernia. Answer the question.

 

[2020hindsight]

Here's a quote I put on the "does anybody watch ABC" thread this morning
Sadly it's about killing and another sort of university.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200704/s1899913.htm Al Qaeda group says Iraq a 'university of terror'

But before I quote from it, here's one of GW Bush's quotes (remembering that, when we went to Iraq, the number of terrorists there could be counted on your fingers and toes.
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blbushisms.htm
Bush :- "You know, one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war on terror." --George W. Bush, interview with CBS News' Katie Couric, Sept. 6, 2006

The head of an Al Qaeda-linked group in Iraq says the country has become a "university of terrorism", producing highly qualified warriors, since the 2003 US-led invasion.

In an audio recording posted on the Internet, Abu Omar al-Baghdadi, leader of the self-styled Islamic State in Iraq, said his fighters were successfully confronting US forces in Iraq and had begun producing a guided missile called al-Quds 1 or Jerusalem 1.

"The largest batch of soldiers for jihad ... in the history of Iraq are graduating and they have the highest level of competence in the world," Baghdadi said. He also sought to mend fences with other anti-US insurgent groups in Iraq following reports of tensions between them. "From the military point of view, one of the (enemy) devils was right in saying that if Afghanistan was a school of terror, then Iraq is a university of terrorism," said the leader of the group set up last year by Al Qaeda's Iraq wing and some other Sunni groups.

"We would like to inform the mujahideen all over the world, and especially in Iraq, that the Quds (Jerusalem) 1 rocket has gone into the phase of military production," Baghdadi said, adding that its length, weight, range and precision "matches those of world powers".

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=letterman+george+bush Letterman on GW Bush (well some Americans can laugh at least)

Here are some other quotes from that "Bushisms" website (would you trust your children's and your grandchildren's futures to this man) :-

Iraq is a very important part of securing the homeland, and it's a very important part of helping change the Middle East into a part of the world that will not serve as a threat to the civilized world, to people like -- or to the developed world, to people like -- in the United States." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 3, 2007

"Suiciders are willing to kill innocent life in order to send the projection that this is an impossible mission." --George W. Busy, Washington, D.C., April 3, 2007

"And my concern, David, is several." --George W. Bush, to NBC's David Gregory, Washington, D.C., April 3, 2007

"The solution to Iraq -- an Iraq that can govern itself, sustain itself and defend itself -- is more than a military mission. Precisely the reason why I sent more troops into Baghdad." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 3, 2007

"That's why we are inconveniencing air traffickers, to make sure nobody is carrying weapons on airplanes." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 3, 2007

"They're innocent, they were doing nothing, and they were summarily plucked out of water." --George W. Bush, on British sailors who were detained by Iran while on patrol in the Persian Gulf, Camp David, March 31, 2007

"Some call this civil war; others call it emergency -- I call it pure evil." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., March 28, 2007

"I'm a strong proponent of the restoration of the wetlands, for a lot of reasons. There's a practical reason, though, when it comes to hurricanes: The stronger the wetlands, the more likely the damage of the hurricane." --George W. Bush, New Orleans, March 1, 2007

"And there is distrust in Washington. I am surprised, frankly, at the amount of distrust that exists in this town. And I'm sorry it's the case, and I'll work hard to try to elevate it." --George W. Bush, interview on National Public Radio, Jan. 29, 2007

"I think that the vice president is a person reflecting a half-glass-full mentality." --George W. Bush, interview on National Public Radio, Jan. 29, 2007

"And one thing we want during this war on terror is for people to feel like their life's moving on, that they're able to make a living and send their kids to college and put more money on the table." --George W. Bush, interview on the NewsHour with Jim Lehrer, Jan. 16, 2007

"The best way to defeat the totalitarian of hate is with an ideology of hope -- an ideology of hate -- excuse me --with an ideology of hope." --George W. Bush, Fort Benning, Ga., Jan. 11, 2007

"Make no mistake about it, I understand how tough it is, sir. I talk to families who die." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Dec. 7, 2006 (Watch video clip)

"It's bad in Iraq. Does that help?" --George W. Bush, after being asked by a reporter whether he's in denial about Iraq, Washington, D.C., Dec. 7, 2006

"And truth of the matter is, a lot of reports in Washington are never read by anybody. To show you how important this one is, I read it, and our guest read it." --George W. Bush, on the Baker-Hamilton Report, appearing with British Prime Minister Tony Blair, Washington, D.C., Dec. 7, 2006

"This business about graceful exit just simply has no realism to it at all." --George W. Bush, on speculation that U.S. troops could be withdrawn from Iraq, Amman, Jordan, Nov. 30, 2006

"The only way we can win is to leave before the job is done." --George W. Bush, Greeley, Colo., Nov. 4, 2006 (Watch video clip)

"Anybody who is in a position to serve this country ought to understand the consequences of words." --George W. Bush, interview with Rush Limbaugh, Nov. 1, 2006

"You know, when I campaigned here in 2000, I said, I want to be a war President. No President wants to be a war President, but I am one." --George W. Bush, Des Moines, Iowa, Oct. 26, 2006

Maria Bartiromo: "I'm curious, have you ever googled anybody? Do you use Google?"
President Bush: "Occasionally. One of the things I've used on the Google is to pull up maps. It's very interesting to see -- I've forgot the name of the program -- but you get the satellite, and you can -- like, I kinda like to look at the ranch. It remind me of where I wanna be sometimes." --interview with CNBC's Maria Bartiromo, Oct. 24, 2006 (Watch video clip)

"We're never been stay the course, George." --George W. Bush, attempting to distance himself from what has been his core strategy in Iraq for the last three years, interview with ABC's George Stephanopoulos, Oct. 22, 2006

"This morning my administration released the budget numbers for fiscal 2006. These budget numbers are not just estimates; these are the actual results for the fiscal year that ended February the 30th." --George W. Bush, on the fiscal year that ended on Sept. 30, Washington, D.C., Oct. 11, 2006 (Watch video clip)

"One has a stronger hand when there's more people playing your same cards." --George W. Bush, on holding six-party talks with North Korea, Washington, D.C., Oct. 11, 2006


"I will not withdraw, even if Laura and Barney are the only ones supporting me." --George W. Bush, talking to key Republicans about Iraq, as quoted by Bob Woodward

"I like to tell people when the final history is written on Iraq, it will look like just a comma because there is -- my point is, there's a strong will for democracy." --George W. Bush, interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer, Sept. 24, 2006 (Watch video clip)
"You're one of the outstanding leaders in a very important part of the world. I want to thank you for strategizing our discussions." --George W. Bush, meeting with the prime minister of Malaysia, New York, N.Y., Sept. 18, 2006

"The Patriot Act has increased the flow of information within our government and it has helped break up terrorist cells in the United States of America. And the United States Congress was right to renew the terrorist act -- the Patriot Act." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C. , Sept. 7, 2006

"You know, one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war on terror." --George W. Bush, interview with CBS News' Katie Couric, Sept. 6, 2006
etc etc

 

[bel532]

THis is hilarious - i never met anybody who was so fooled by the media.
Do some REAL research buddy before posting - and i mean more than watching CNN and channel 9.
Your making a fool of yourself.

The bigger fool is the person who considers everyone else but himself a fool. Ever heard of Alice in Wonderland, where the King wore no clothes, but no one noticed. Do you want a clue?

By the wayI am NOT your buddy.

 

[wayneL]

I repeat, where did I advocate violence as a first resort under ANY circumstances? Stop blowing your horn or you will get a hernia. Answer the question.

Which question be that? You haven't asked me any question.

BTW, regarding the insults emanating from your keyboard; you know not what you do. See clause 2 at this link

 

[robert toms]

Calm down Bel 352...We only get dial up in our area so I have not got a line open constantly.
Now ,I quickly searched through "Middle East set for disaster' posts and you are right ,as far as I can see you did not advocate bombing Iran.If I did misrepresent what you said ,I unreservedly apologise.
However,I did get the picture of one very aggressive person...pleased with the bombing campaign in Bosnia,aggrieved that the USA had to do the "heavy lifting" in Afghanistan and calling people cowardly.
Do you know how many countries the USA has bombed since WW2?

 

[wayneL]

The bigger fool is the person who considers everyone else but himself a fool.

Hoisted by his own petard

 

[bel532]

Calm down Bel 352...We only get dial up in our area so I have not got a line open constantly.
Now ,I quickly searched through "Middle East set for disaster' posts and you are right ,as far as I can see you did not advocate bombing Iran.If I did misrepresent what you said ,I unreservedly apologise.
However,I did get the picture of one very aggressive person...pleased with the bombing campaign in Bosnia,aggrieved that the USA had to do the "heavy lifting" in Afghanistan and calling people cowardly.
Do you know how many countries the USA has bombed since WW2?

I am certainly NOT an aggresive person but I am an assertive person, there is a marked difference (I learnt that the hard way from a very, very aggresive CEO). I will answer the rest of your question later (maybe tomorow) as I need to take the dog for a walk prior to dinner and then watching Dateline on SBS.

 

[2020hindsight]

The bigger fool is the person who considers everyone else but himself a fool. Ever heard of Alice in Wonderland, where the King wore no clothes, but no one noticed. Do you want a clue?

By the wayI am NOT your buddy.

hey bel the kings new clothes is Hans Christian Andersen
But I'm sure Lewis Caroll also enjoyed it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZYzbkk5X4M
Do we want a clue?
depends, do you have one to give us?

 

[constable]

Can we rename this thread to Bel's sensitive ego?
And we could keep it open just so during the day we can stop by and have a laugh at the freak.hahahahaha

 

[2020hindsight]

Actually, I think it was a young korean man who stayed in the US since 1992, meaning he was brought up in the US. I think if he was brought up in Korea, he would have just killed himself and not the others.

spot on junmonkey
so that means he's a 23 year old who emigrated to USA at the age of (about) 8.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200704/s1900777.htm

'American dream'. Cho's family were living a tough life in South Korea before they emigrated to the United States in search of the American dream, news reports say.

Cho was a "very quiet and well-behaved" boy when he lived with his family in a modest rented apartment in northern Seoul before the family left for the United States in 1992, their former landlord said. "I was just shocked when I was visited and told by (South Korean) police yesterday that the gunman was a boy who used to live in my apartment," Lim Bong-Ae, 67, was quoted as saying by Yonhap news agency. "I remember him as a quiet and well-behaved boy. I just can't believe he did it," she said.

Cho's parents, who run a dry cleaning business, were reportedly treated in hospital for shock after their 23-year-old student son killed 32 students and staff before killing himself.

President Roh Moo-Hyun has offered the American people condolences "from the bottom of my heart" following the deadliest school shooting in US history.

Other South Koreans expressed shock and fears of a racially motivated backlash against their compatriots living in the US.

1. sounds like his folks were looking for the American dream, but ended up in an American nightmare
2. Apparently he was taking photos of girls legs under his desk during lectures, hence needed individual tutoring. I couldn't help thinking of that idiot (somewhere in Aus) who was photographing up girls dresses with a camera on his shoe. Do we run him in as a potential mass murderer? obviously it's bludy difficult to get these things right prior to the sanity "snapping"

PS It would (obviously) be totally unreasonable to take it out on South Koreans. They have enough to deal with - e.g. massive concrete anti-tank walls on the 38th parallel border with the North (resembling the Great Wall of China) with arches with explosives all ready charged that can be dropped down to block the way of any tanks that might be chasing them as they retreated .. real healthy place to grow up .

 

[nizar]

Can we rename this thread to Bel's sensitive ego?
And we could keep it open just so during the day we can stop by and have a laugh at the freak.hahahahaha

I agree.
Hahahahahahahaha

 

[wayneL]

Let's stick to the debate from now on folks.

Everybody has had a nice go at each other, but any further ad hominem comments from either side will be deleted/edited.

Thanks guys/gals.

 

[constable]

Let's stick to the debate from now on folks.

Everybody has had a nice go at each other, but any further ad hominem comments from either side will be deleted/edited.

Thanks guys/gals.

well said from now on im going to take it out on my dumbels

 

[nizar]

What a stupid comment, guns don't kill, people kill

Stop the Clock.

Get it right.

Actual quote is:
"Guns dont kill people. People kill people" - DMX in Romeo Must Die