Australian Politics General...

[SirRumpole]

More issues with detention of immigrants.
I didn't realise there was 1,000 in detention centres.

Immigration detention workers plan strike action over redundancy dispute

The federal government's decision to change security contractors at centres around the country has left workers caught between the current and incoming operators.

www.abc.net.au

According to the latest data, there are almost 1,000 detainees being held in centres around Australia and of those 846 have criminal histories.

Send them to Guantanamo !

 

[sptrawler]

Send them to Guantanamo !

Who tge guards or the inmates? Lol

 

[SirRumpole]

Who tge guards or the inmates? Lol

The Inmates of course.

 

[sptrawler]

Government spending is coming under the spotlight as the economy tightens.

States facing credit downgrades due to ‘lax fiscal discipline’

The states have been warned their credit ratings could be sliced due to their inability to control spending.

www.theage.com.au

S&P Global this morning said “lax fiscal discipline” across the states, despite a lift in their expected revenues, meant the high ratings for almost all jurisdictions were at risk.
“The issue for Australian governments is spending, not revenue. Their approach to fiscal discipline appears increasingly loose. We now question whether many states have exceptionally strong financial management on a global scale,” it said in a report released on Tuesday.

“Ratings revisions loom if states fail to curb rising operating costs and cost blowouts.”

Australia’s states all have high credit ratings – which affect how much interest they have to pay on their debt – compared to most provincial administrations across the world.
But since the start of the COVID pandemic, S&P has downgraded the ratings for NSW and the ACT (from AAA to AA+) and Victoria (from AAA to AA) while upgrading Western Australia to its highest rating level (AAA).

The agency noted that state revenues had climbed by $146 billion more than had been expected compared to their budget positions of 2019-20, enough to fund all of Victoria’s major rail projects such as the suburban rail loop or seven new Sydney metro rail lines.

But 65 per cent of that extra revenue was captured by Queensland and Western Australia due to high commodity prices.
Over the same period, state spending climbed by $212 billion over forecasts.
“While states have high credit ratings and have collected record tax revenues since the pandemic, they have failed to rein in pandemic-size spending, choosing instead to prioritise voter-friendly expenditures,” it said.
Almost all states have come under fire for increased spending on their public services.

But S&P said this was not the main problem facing state finances, noting employee costs accounted for 14 per cent of total increased spending.
It argued one of the biggest drivers has been increased expenditure on infrastructure, due in part to booming population growth and the national energy transition.
Before the pandemic, states had expected to spend $64 billion on infrastructure in 2020 before gradually easing in further years. Instead, spending is now expected to reach $100 billion in 2025 and the following year.

 

[mullokintyre]

The high court , in another classic case of the legal profession looking after its own, has ruled that a Queensland Justice cannot be sued for for wrongly jailing a man for Contempt.
The original decision by Justice Salvatore Vasta was overturned on appeal, and the appeal judges were scathing of Vastas conduct.
In one of those stange coincidences, Salvatore Vasta is the son of Angelo Vasta, a Queensland Judge, is the only Judge who has ever been removed by Parliament from the bench.

From Evil Murdoch Press

The High Court has overturned a landmark case that had allowed a judge to be sued for the first time in Australia, depriving the Queensland father who had been wrongly jailed for contempt by Federal Circuit Court Judge Salvatore Vasta of more than $300,000 in damages.
In a 2023 case that sent shockwaves through the legal system, Justice Michael Wigney in the Federal Court found Judge Vasta was personally liable for the false imprisonment of “Mr Stradford” (a pseudonym) as he had “acted without, or in excess of, his jurisdiction”.

Judge Vasta had presided over the “grossest parody of a court hearing”, lawyers for Mr Stradford had argued, behaving like the foul-tempered Queen of Hearts in Alice in Wonderland – delivering “sentence first, verdict afterwards”.

But on Wednesday the High Court unanimously allowed an appeal by Judge Vasta, finding that all judges of courts referred to in section 71 of the Constitution are immune to a civil suit arising out of acts done in the exercise of their judicial function or capacity.

“As Judge Vasta purported to perform such a function in convicting and sentencing Mr Stradford, he was not liable to Mr Stradford for false imprisonment”, the court found.

Mr Stradford had also sued the Commonwealth and the State of Queensland, but the High Court found that as each of the Queensland police officers and correctional officers who took the father of two into custody had a legal duty to execute orders or warrants made or issued by the Federal Circuit Court, they were not “beyond power” so the Commonwealth and Queensland were also not liable to Mr Stradford.

The judgment leaves Mr Stradford without redress against the judge’s undisputed wrong conduct and is likely to revive calls for a Federal Judicial Commission to investigate complaints against judges, promised by the Albanese government but not delivered.

 

[farmerge]

The high court , in another classic case of the legal profession looking after its own, has ruled that a Queensland Justice cannot be sued for for wrongly jailing a man for Contempt.
The original decision by Justice Salvatore Vasta was overturned on appeal, and the appeal judges were scathing of Vastas conduct.
In one of those stange coincidences, Salvatore Vasta is the son of Angelo Vasta, a Queensland Judge, is the only Judge who has ever been removed by Parliament from the bench.

From Evil Murdoch Press

@mullokintyre If there was ever a stinking dead rat surely then, this has to be it.
Looking after their own has to be the understatement of the year.

 

[IFocus]

Future Australian PM?

Dutton calls for migration review after NSW nurses’ anti-Semitic threats​

Peter Dutton is calling for a review of the country’s migration system after it was revealed one of the nurses caught making anti-Semitic threats was granted Australian citizenship in 2020.
Ahmad Rashad Nadir came to Australia from Afghanistan as a 12-year-old.

He was recorded bragging he would kill Israeli patients alongside fellow NSW nurse Sarah Abu Lebdeh in a Chatruletka call with Israeli influencer Max Veifer.

The Opposition Leader on Thursday said there were “big problems in this country when somebody like that can become an Australian citizen”.


Opposition Leader Peter Dutton is calling for a review of the country’s migration system after it was revealed one of the nurses caught making anti-Semitic threats was granted Australian citizenship in 2020. Picture: NewsWire / Martin Ollman
“There needs to be a proper process in place to understand how this individual became an Australian citizen and where the failing in the system originated, and how we can make sure it doesn’t happen,” he told Sydney talkback station 2GB.

Mr Dutton was home affairs minister in the former Coalition government when Mr Nadir was granted citizenship.

 

[farmerge]

Future Australian PM?

Dutton calls for migration review after NSW nurses’ anti-Semitic threats​

Peter Dutton is calling for a review of the country’s migration system after it was revealed one of the nurses caught making anti-Semitic threats was granted Australian citizenship in 2020.
Ahmad Rashad Nadir came to Australia from Afghanistan as a 12-year-old.

He was recorded bragging he would kill Israeli patients alongside fellow NSW nurse Sarah Abu Lebdeh in a Chatruletka call with Israeli influencer Max Veifer.

The Opposition Leader on Thursday said there were “big problems in this country when somebody like that can become an Australian citizen”.


Opposition Leader Peter Dutton is calling for a review of the country’s migration system after it was revealed one of the nurses caught making anti-Semitic threats was granted Australian citizenship in 2020. Picture: NewsWire / Martin Ollman
“There needs to be a proper process in place to understand how this individual became an Australian citizen and where the failing in the system originated, and how we can make sure it doesn’t happen,” he told Sydney talkback station 2GB.

Mr Dutton was home affairs minister in the former Coalition government when Mr Nadir was granted citizenship.

This is beyond serious when these types of brain challenged are working in the hospital system public or private.
I found it interesting that the NSW Health Minister has ordered a review of patients who have died while this pair were at this hospital.
My opinion is that since they are apparently imports to this country they should now be exported back from whenst they came with a never to be allowed to re-enter.
I did see later on last night on the later news bulletin that it was said as a joke and not intended to be harmful. Just who are these morons trying to kid, besides themselves.
At worst they should be receiving severe jail time then followed up with deportation.

 

[investor13]

Send them to Guantanamo !

some of them might be disapointed that Trump, Musk and the band of DOGE Nerds put an end to thegender transition program in Guantanamo

In January 2025, President Donald Trump issued an executive order that restricted gender transition for people under 19, including at Guantanamo Bay. The order also directed agency leaders to review programs, contracts, and grants to terminate any that promote gender ideology.

 

[investor13]

Future Australian PM?

Dutton calls for migration review after NSW nurses’ anti-Semitic threats​

Peter Dutton is calling for a review of the country’s migration system after it was revealed one of the nurses caught making anti-Semitic threats was granted Australian citizenship in 2020.
Ahmad Rashad Nadir came to Australia from Afghanistan as a 12-year-old.

He was recorded bragging he would kill Israeli patients alongside fellow NSW nurse Sarah Abu Lebdeh in a Chatruletka call with Israeli influencer Max Veifer.

The Opposition Leader on Thursday said there were “big problems in this country when somebody like that can become an Australian citizen”.


Opposition Leader Peter Dutton is calling for a review of the country’s migration system after it was revealed one of the nurses caught making anti-Semitic threats was granted Australian citizenship in 2020. Picture: NewsWire / Martin Ollman
“There needs to be a proper process in place to understand how this individual became an Australian citizen and where the failing in the system originated, and how we can make sure it doesn’t happen,” he told Sydney talkback station 2GB.

Mr Dutton was home affairs minister in the former Coalition government when Mr Nadir was granted citizenship.

you know i dont understand there is some an estimated 120k people of Jewish decent in Australia, they stick to them self in there small tight communities, rearly seen down the pub or buying items at a shopping center yet are always some how a target of the public

 

[farmerge]

you know i dont understand there is some an estimated 120k people of Jewish decent in Australia, they stick to them self in there small tight communities, rearly seen down the pub or buying items at a shopping center yet are always some how a target of the public

@investor13 For as far back as you want to go the people of the Jewish faith have been a target of someone.
Is it because they are hard working, don't tend to rock the boat and keep to themselves?
I can think of plenty of other groups with similar outlooks but are not on anyone's radar to be destroyed.

 

[farmerge]

Future Australian PM?

Dutton calls for migration review after NSW nurses’ anti-Semitic threats​

Peter Dutton is calling for a review of the country’s migration system after it was revealed one of the nurses caught making anti-Semitic threats was granted Australian citizenship in 2020.
Ahmad Rashad Nadir came to Australia from Afghanistan as a 12-year-old.

He was recorded bragging he would kill Israeli patients alongside fellow NSW nurse Sarah Abu Lebdeh in a Chatruletka call with Israeli influencer Max Veifer.

The Opposition Leader on Thursday said there were “big problems in this country when somebody like that can become an Australian citizen”.


Opposition Leader Peter Dutton is calling for a review of the country’s migration system after it was revealed one of the nurses caught making anti-Semitic threats was granted Australian citizenship in 2020. Picture: NewsWire / Martin Ollman
“There needs to be a proper process in place to understand how this individual became an Australian citizen and where the failing in the system originated, and how we can make sure it doesn’t happen,” he told Sydney talkback station 2GB.

Mr Dutton was home affairs minister in the former Coalition government when Mr Nadir was granted citizenship.

On the late TV news tonight the Government has stripped the 2 radical nurses of the accreditation and they will never be able to work in the nursing field again.
All that is needed now is to off-load them back to their country of origin. If they were born here and are natural Australian citizens then a period of incarceration and a stint at a re-education camp with a rock pile and an 8lb sledgehammer for making ballast

 

[SirRumpole]

Shock ! Horror !

Australian students don't understand how government works (it doesn't).

We never had one lesson on these things when I was at school, we learnt things than might have been useful in getting real jobs.

Australian students record worst ever civics result with 72 per cent not understanding the basics of democracy​

Call for 'immediate overhaul' of curriculum after 'shocking' civics results

National test results show just 28 per cent of Year 10 students are proficient in civics.

www.abc.net.au

 

[mullokintyre]

We never had one lesson on these things when I was at school,

Yea, and it shows!.
Mick

 

[SirRumpole]

Yea, and it shows!.
Mick

Ohhh Mick, how cruel !

 

[Knobby22]

Shock ! Horror !

Australian students don't understand how government works (it doesn't).

We never had one lesson on these things when I was at school, we learnt things than might have been useful in getting real jobs.

Australian students record worst ever civics result with 72 per cent not understanding the basics of democracy​

Call for 'immediate overhaul' of curriculum after 'shocking' civics results

National test results show just 28 per cent of Year 10 students are proficient in civics.

www.abc.net.au

I had lessons on it.
At the time (1980) it was called something else, but we did civics, how voting works and what happens, how to write cheques!, how to borrow for a car without getting ripped off. other stuff they thought would be useful. Year 10. One term for one hour.

Bring it back!

Seriously 2 hours total is all you need to understand our political system. i think now it is an elective? and they go into way too much detail and the kids are not interested because it is boring.

 

[mullokintyre]

I had lessons on it.
At the time (1980) it was called something else, but we did civics, how voting works and what happens, how to write cheques!, how to borrow for a car without getting ripped off. other stuff they thought would be useful. Year 10. One term for one hour.

Bring it back!

Seriously 2 hours total is all you need to understand our political system. i think now it is an elective? and they go into way too much detail and the kids are not interested because it is boring.

2 hours would certainly cover the historical and statutory foundations of Australian Democracy, but it would take a few weeks to learn how individuals and organisations have bastardised it to suit their own ends.
Ostensibly, the Senate was set up as house of review whereby the states could ensure that their interests were not snowballed by other states. It has become just another party political bargaining centre that barely mentions states rights.
The preferential voting system was arguably setup so that the wishes of the people would be more accurately reflected.
The vote harvesting and deals done on preferences have turned that idea into a complete joke.
The concept that grass roots members could determine who their contestant is to represent them in an electorate has largely been ignored as frequent captains picks, factional deals, and plain bribery have taken much of these decisions out of the hands of members.
I could go on, but I don't have a few spare weeks.
Mick

 

[SirRumpole]

I2 hours would certainly cover the historical and statutory foundations of Australian Democracy, but it would take a few weeks to learn how individuals and organisations have bastardised it to suit their own ends.
Ostensibly, the Senate was set up as house of review whereby the states could ensure that their interests were not snowballed by other states. It has become just another party political bargaining centre that barely mentions states rights.
The preferential voting system was arguably setup so that the wishes of the people would be more accurately reflected.
The vote harvesting and deals done on preferences have turned that idea into a complete joke.
The concept that grass roots members could determine who their contestant is to represent them in an electorate has largely been ignored as frequent captains picks, factional deals, and plain bribery have taken much of these decisions out of the hands of members.
I could go on, but I don't have a few spare weeks.
Mick

Well, the school curriculum is pretty crowded these days, what with gender fluidity classes et al, so when do kids learn maths and science?

If they want to go into politics there are uni courses for that, maybe this is why we have a shortage of people who do the real jobs.

 

[Knobby22]

You guys are pretty cynical.
All they need to know is how the voting system works and the different houses of Parliament.

The real issue at present is the attempt by the three major parties to curtail independents being elected.
the fact that you can donate to a major party and claim it on your tax, but you can't an independent isn't achieving anything so now they want to make it harder

In the early days of our Parliamentary system, many were independents and it worked fine.
I rate David Pocock, Bob Katter and some others. Jacqui Lambie and Pauline Hanson were once independents.
Its good for democracy. Frankly the Werribee seat could have elected an independent based on the lacklustre Liberal Candidate ( a real estate agent who lives in Moonee Ponds) and the Labor guy.
The independent did get a substantial vote but didn't have the organisation to compete.

Sweeping reform of the electoral laws puts democracy at risk. They shouldn’t be changed on a whim

The biggest changes to the electoral donations laws in 40 years risk undermining democracy by favouring the major parties over independents.

theconversation.com

 

[sptrawler]

Well, the school curriculum is pretty crowded these days, what with gender fluidity classes et al, so when do kids learn maths and science?

If they want to go into politics there are uni courses for that, maybe this is why we have a shortage of people who do the real jobs.

SPot on Rumpy, if they can't fit in the times tables, politics has no chance. Lol

They already run remedial maths courses at Uni, maybe squeezing in a remedial primary and secondary school course and add a year to the degree? Win win the kids get another year at school and the Uni gets extra money.