Australian Politics General...

[Smurf1976]

NDIS will be the killer, as admirable as it is.

Classic case of something where the underlying concept is admirable but the implementation has been carried out in a manner that's far too costly.

Too many middle managers outsourcing risk and too few competent hands on people calling the shots.

 

[sptrawler]

Classic case of something where the underlying concept is admirable but the implementation has been carried out in a manner that's far too costly.

Too many middle managers outsourcing risk and too few competent hands on people calling the shots.

Too big an undertaking also, a lot of the disabilities being covered are very hard to quantify and assess, as are mental health issues.
For example Bill has had a lot of trouble with autism.

 

[SirRumpole]

A future made in Australia ?

One wonders how serious they are.

Spirit of Tasmania $100 million spend on 'local content' to include ferry engines built in Finland​

Spirit ferries $100m of 'local content' includes Finnish-built engines

Finnish-built engines have joined the list of "local content" mandated in the fit-out of Tasmania's two new Spirit ferries.

www.abc.net.au

 

[farmerge]

A future made in Australia ?

One wonders how serious they are.

Spirit of Tasmania $100 million spend on 'local content' to include ferry engines built in Finland​

Spirit ferries $100m of 'local content' includes Finnish-built engines

Finnish-built engines have joined the list of "local content" mandated in the fit-out of Tasmania's two new Spirit ferries.

www.abc.net.au

@SirRumpole "local content" usual push to give a "feel good" to the story of a local build.
Blah

 

[moXJO]

NDIS is going to send us broke. Deaf people do not need there house cleaned.
They also do not need to be spending money on hookers.
People are using it like a slave service. They have no idea how to distribute the money beyond throwing it at companies that will spend the lot. The actual care workers are paid a pittance and treated like slaves. The turnover rate is ridiculous.

They would have been better off having care packages for category and capping it right off based on severity.
New migrants need to be scanned before entry because there's a lot of inbreeding going on in certain cultures. Know a few people dealing with half the families.

 

[IFocus]

Mundine got the No vote

"The New South Wales Liberal Party's moderate faction has had a major win with lawyer and former political staffer Gisele Kapterian defeating Nynggai Warren Mundine in the race to be preselected for the blue-ribbon Sydney seat of Bradfield.

Mr Mundine, a prominent anti-Voice campaigner, had been vying for the seat with the backing of the conservative wing in what was seen as a critical juncture in deciding the party's ideological direction.

Former prime minister Tony Abbott was a key supporter of Mr Mundine."

Warren Mundine loses pre-selection bid as Liberals opt for lawyer Gisele Kapterian

Gisele Kapterian has been preselected for the blue-ribbon seat of Bradfield, defeating prominent anti-Voice campaigner Warren Mundine who had also been in the running.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Ferret]

Good. This business of political parties parachuting non-residents into seats needs to stop.

 

[IFocus]

Mundine is 68 / 69 years old well past it, Gisele Kapterian actually looks like a good candidate.

 

[wayneL]

Just discovered somebody I've known for the last three years is a Libertarian senate candidate.

Got a sticker to troll all my clients who are rusted on Liberal,Labor or Watermelons.

Probably Buckley's chance, but standing up for what is right.

 

[JohnDe]

 

[wayneL]

USA: 6.68% of the population are government employees.

UK: 8.75% of the population are government employees.

Australia: 9.50% of the population are government employees.

"Australia had 2,517,900 public sector employees in June, with 365,400 of those in the federal government, 1,939,100 in state government and 213,500 in local councils, according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS).

"That equates to more than 17 per cent of the total working population, which was 14,402,500 in the same month."
news.com.au/finance/econom…

 

[Smurf1976]

Australia: 9.50% of the population are government employees.

To consider that fairly, contractors also ought be counted.

There are businesses that might in theory be privately owned but they’re an extension of the public service in practice, and usually a particularly expensive one at that.

 

[SirRumpole]

To consider that fairly, contractors also ought be counted.

There are businesses that might in theory be privately owned but they’re an extension of the public service in practice, and usually a particularly expensive one at that.

Yes it would be cheaper to have more salaried public servants instead of paying for the profit margins of businesses.

 

[Smurf1976]

Yes it would be cheaper to have more salaried public servants instead of paying for the profit margins of businesses.

It's not just the profit margin but it's also the extra work created.

Employ some public servants to do the work.

Or instead employ some public servants to specify, write, tender then manage a contract for someone else, who'll also have someone focusing on the contract administration, to do the actual work.

It ends up with more people in the office than on the tools.

There's a place for contractors, I'm not suggesting it ought be zero, but it's just silly to be paying $300k a year, plus administrative overheads, to effectively employ someone actually doing the work who gets paid $100k. There's a lot of overheads there.

 

[sptrawler]

It's not just the profit margin but it's also the extra work created.

Employ some public servants to do the work.

Or instead employ some public servants to specify, write, tender then manage a contract for someone else, who'll also have someone focusing on the contract administration, to do the actual work.

It ends up with more people in the office than on the tools.

There's a place for contractors, I'm not suggesting it ought be zero, but it's just silly to be paying $300k a year, plus administrative overheads, to effectively employ someone actually doing the work who gets paid $100k. There's a lot of overheads there.

Yes but as you know, there is less responsibilty at the political level.

 

[sptrawler]

What is the old saying @Smurf1976 , degrees or levels of seperation, from the action?

 

[farmerge]

Yes but as you know, there is less responsibilty at the political level.

@sptrawler Isn't it called "duck shoving" move any responsibility sideways, backwards or anyways but near to me.

 

[PZ99]

AU have run budget surpluses. US / UK ran deficits.

Now what's the MAGA mans' point again ?

 

[farmerge]

AU have run budget surpluses. US / UK ran deficits.

Now what's the MAGA mans' point again ?

@PZ99 Well, um, perhaps, ahh. Oh Christ I don't know!!!!

 

[sptrawler]

Because the law is established, laws around indefinite detention clearly are not for obvious reasons, not saying the case is or isn't valid just the mess on detention of immigrants coming by boat.

More issues with detention of immigrants.
I didn't realise there was 1,000 in detention centres.

Immigration detention workers plan strike action over redundancy dispute

The federal government's decision to change security contractors at centres around the country has left workers caught between the current and incoming operators.

www.abc.net.au

According to the latest data, there are almost 1,000 detainees being held in centres around Australia and of those 846 have criminal histories.