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Electric cars?

Would you buy an electric car?

  • Already own one

    Votes: 10 5.1%

  • Yes - would definitely buy

    Votes: 43 21.7%

  • Yes - preferred over petrol car if price/power/convenience similar

    Votes: 78 39.4%

  • Maybe - preference for neither, only concerned with costs etc

    Votes: 38 19.2%

  • No - prefer petrol car even if electric car has same price, power and convenience

    Votes: 25 12.6%

  • No - would never buy one

    Votes: 14 7.1%
  • Total voters
    198
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SirRumpole said:
Quite a long video (52 mins), but interesting if you are thinking of buying a 2025 Tesla Model 3.



My humble opinion is that self drive should be banned.

If people can't drive they should be taking taxis or public transport.
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@SirRumpole Does self drive now open the door for legally blind people to be able to be behind the wheel on a public road?
 
farmerge said:
@SirRumpole Does self drive now open the door for legally blind people to be able to be behind the wheel on a public road?
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If we allow self drive, it is not far fetched to say the driver is not responsible ?
So no traffic fines or liability in case of accident..
Hum..a snake nest..
My current ICE car has a few self driving fct which really help but i am and feel still in control.
Do i want not to be in control if liable
 
I may be wrong but part of the driving experience for me is being in control. So much so that I prefer manual cars, I'll decide what gear to use thank you. The lack of control must worry passengers in these EV self drive vehicles. As for EV vehicles per se. I still prefer the ICE to get me about.

I note there has been a decrease in the momentum of change to EV's in the West. China on the other hand is powering ahead in their adoption. So I am possibly a lone voice abhorring pure EV's. For saving on fuel though I would consider a hybrid. Saving on petrol that is. The cost to the environment of the mining of metals that go in to batteries for EV's is underestimated. Nonetheless if every other silly bastard needs ions for batteries I will hold mining stocks to oblige them. As with 98% of the population it is all about me.

gg
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
I may be wrong but part of the driving experience for me is being in control. So much so that I prefer manual cars, I'll decide what gear to use thank you. The lack of control must worry passengers in these EV self drive vehicles. As for EV vehicles per se. I still prefer the ICE to get me about.

I note there has been a decrease in the momentum of change to EV's in the West. China on the other hand is powering ahead in their adoption. So I am possibly a lone voice abhorring pure EV's. For saving on fuel though I would consider a hybrid. Saving on petrol that is. The cost to the environment of the mining of metals that go in to batteries for EV's is underestimated. Nonetheless if every other silly bastard needs ions for batteries I will hold mining stocks to oblige them. As with 98% of the population it is all about me.

gg
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horse for courses , in my opinion ,

if you live in a city ( or major town ) and rarely go more than 100 km a day ( and aren't a tradie with a tonne tools and trailer ) an EV might make a lot of sense to you

now i don't travel by taxi so much recently but they were trending towards hybrids back when i used them often
 
SirRumpole said:
Quite a long video (52 mins), but interesting if you are thinking of buying a 2025 Tesla Model 3.



My humble opinion is that self drive should be banned.

If people can't drive they should be taking taxis or public transport.
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During my younger years I remember a lot of people saying the same about ABS (anti-lock braking) and power steering, I on the other hand could not wait to be able to afford a car with all the new gizmos and safety features. I would have debates with the older crew, they reckoned that the new features would cause people to forget how to drive to the rod conditions.
 
JohnDe said:
During my younger years I remember a lot of people saying the same about ABS (anti-lock braking) and power steering, I on the other hand could not wait to be able to afford a car with all the new gizmos and safety features. I would have debates with the older crew, they reckoned that the new features would cause people to forget how to drive to the rod conditions.
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Well they definitely have,: i remember a person complaining publicly that she left the road in a curve during a rain event but was under the speed limit ....
So obviously the speed limit was too high 100% of the time...
I genuinely believe that at least in Qld, people have no idea of "driving to conditions".
Maybe due to absence of fog, black ice and snow?
An interesting question for EV drivers here: do EV (automated self driving features) drive to condition?:
Same road, rain/no rain/ice affecting top and curving speed?
 
JohnDe said:
During my younger years I remember a lot of people saying the same about ABS (anti-lock braking) and power steering, I on the other hand could not wait to be able to afford a car with all the new gizmos and safety features. I would have debates with the older crew, they reckoned that the new features would cause people to forget how to drive to the rod conditions.
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I can appreciate the argument, but the advances you mention did not affect decision making capability and road awareness that self drive does. It's a whole new game taking control away from the driver.

Some say that people are bad drivers anyway and machines can do it better. That's true in some cases, but if you watched the video you will see that misinterpretation of sensor inputs by software is very much a problem.
 
SirRumpole said:
Quite a long video (52 mins), but interesting if you are thinking of buying a 2025 Tesla Model 3.



My humble opinion is that self drive should be banned.

If people can't drive they should be taking taxis or public transport.
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Why would you want to ban self drive, it’s a pretty awesome feature to have especially on a long drive down the freeway, if used properly it makes the vehicle safer.
 
qldfrog said:
If we allow self drive, it is not far fetched to say the driver is not responsible ?
So no traffic fines or liability in case of accident..
Hum..a snake nest..
My current ICE car has a few self driving fct which really help but i am and feel still in control.
Do i want not to be in control if liable
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until it’s at the point where it’s completely autonomous so that an unlicensed person can hop in a vehicle with no steering wheel etc, the driver will always be responsible.
 
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