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Does anyone disagree that Barack will be the next US president?

I first saw him on 'Oprah' whilst I was in Canada a year ago. I sat glued and I rarely watch the show! He was so inspiring that I bought his book 'The Audacity of Hope'. This was his second book. The first was 'Dreams from My Father' which earned him enough to pay off his law school debts and buy him a house as he worked in Chicago for a pittance. I predicted the sales of his second book would help finance a run for president and I was chuffed when he nominated! He's not accepted any donations from lobbyists but from public donations which IMO give ownership by the donors to 'the cause'. A brilliant strategy!

My Canadian friends tell me Barack is the favourite in Calgary.

My best friend is American and lives in Orange County CA and insists Hillary will win and Barack will be VP. "We are ready for a woman as president but not a black man!"

David E Kelly dedicated an episode of Boston Legal last season to promote Obama, where the theme was basically about racism and 'political correctness' when Denny Crane was impressed with a black law graduate and told him he spoke like a white man. During the balcony epilogue segment Denny Crane announced Obama would be make a good president. "Anyone but Hillary". So it's not just Oprah who believes in Obama and has promoted him to the voter reluctant American public.

Below is the link to Oprah's speech yesterday (Sunday US time) at Obama's rally:

http://www.barackobama.com/oprah
 
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I reckon it will be between Hillary and Barack. Oprah's influence on the black and female voters has got to be a big plus.

Bit hard for me to pick though... I don't think much like a yank :( have to work on it for awhile :p:
 
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I actually hope Clinton gets it, as I think Barack and Oprah are running a rather racist campaign.
 
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Whiskers said:
I reckon it will be between Hillary and Barack. Oprah's influence on the black and female voters has got to be a big plus.

Bit hard for me to pick though... I don't think much like a yank :( have to work on it for awhile :p:
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Too true... possibly not many blacks usually bother to vote.

Wasn't it 40% of eligible voters who turned out for the last election? I recall reading how Bush's machine stirred up two states who had a lot of colleges (total number of college votes wins) with the gross fear that if a Democrat were elected he would legalize abortion and gay marriages. People who had never voted in their lives came out of the woodwork for Bush.

Y'all I was in Huston in February and every local I spoke to said they would never vote for a black man. In California, one woman I met said she wouldn't vote for Obama because he was a muslim and he smoked!

The fact that the second Tuesday in November when they vote is a working day... most employers insist people use their lunch break or after work to vote... does not help the low turnout at their polls.

He is so articulate and his books are light, entertaining, informative reading. 'The Audacity of Hope' gives such an insight into the man as he highlights problems and solutions for the Hispanic, illegal immigrants and African-American situations. Costco (in OC) was selling it for US$10 in Feb when I paid $33 in Canada last December. They were snapped up! You cannot read his work and not be impressed.

I really believe he will unite his country and the world. Maybe even the muslims? Hope is not audacious!

We'll know in a few weeks!
 
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coolcricket said:
I actually hope Clinton gets it, as I think Barack and Oprah are running a rather racist campaign.
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Why do you think that? Because Oprah is forever promoting black success?

Obama's mother was white. He's half white and he's never been racist.
 
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Ron Paul is the man you have too look at Seriously, the American Economy is in crisis and this is the only man who has the answers. Plus he is one of the few who will withdraw troops from most places.

Barrack and Hillary will both continue America's path towards a police state.
 
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Doris said:
Why do you think that? Because Oprah is forever promoting black success?

Obama's mother was white. He's half white and he's never been racist.
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Why is Oprah supporting Obama?
She didn't come out and support Kerry in '04 (and obviously, if she's supporting Obama, she's either a dem or clearly voting down racial lines) back when it was MOST IMPORTANT.

And after the racial speech from Oprah....she played the race card for Obama and he let her do it. That makes him ivolved in a racist campaign imo.
 
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Doris said:
Does anyone disagree that Barack will be the next US president?
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Doris said:
I first saw him on 'Oprah' whilst I was in Canada a year ago. I sat glued and I rarely watch the show! He was so inspiring that I bought his book 'The Audacity of Hope'. This was his second book. The first was 'Dreams from My Father' which earned him enough to pay off his law school debts and buy him a house as he worked in Chicago for a pittance. I predicted the sales of his second book would help finance a run for president and I was chuffed when he nominated! He's not accepted any donations from lobbyists but from public donations which IMO give ownership by the donors to 'the cause'. A brilliant strategy!

My Canadian friends tell me Barack is the favourite in Calgary.

My best friend is American and lives in Orange County CA and insists Hillary will win and Barack will be VP. "We are ready for a woman as president but not a black man!"

David E Kelly dedicated an episode of Boston Legal last season to promote Obama, where the theme was basically about racism and 'political correctness' when Denny Crane was impressed with a black law graduate and told him he spoke like a white man. During the balcony epilogue segment Denny Crane announced Obama would be make a good president. "Anyone but Hillary". So it's not just Oprah who believes in Obama and has promoted him to the voter reluctant American public.

Below is the link to Oprah's speech yesterday (Sunday US time) at Obama's rally:

http://www.barackobama.com/oprah
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Forget Barack Obama and Billary, they are nothing but CFR Shills who will continue endless wars, Ron Paul is the only candidate who should be President...

Best Video about Ron Paul



Ron Paul has got a HUGE Grassroots Movement behind him. They've even raised +$200,000 to get a Blimp for him.

 
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Obama and Hillary, I Don't think they have the legs, they are the money mouths for the democratic party. Plus i don't think america will vote for either a female or black president just yet.

Ron paul is the best candidate and would be my pick for the 2008 poll, but i think his idea's are a little to big for the average american, for him to get the nod.

we will proberably end up with thompson or gulliani as the next president or someone who will put their hand up next year just before the primaries and will walk in with all the money already raised and a nice run to the polls.
But i guess we will see in time.

Anyway who ever it is, is going to get one hell of a mess to sort out, after the current guy.
 
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Its a difficult one.

Hopefully the grassroots movement will win the day. I like Ron Paul, but I obviously do not have a vote. However, it would be good to see then moneyed elite lose out.

Although I think Americans are sick of money in politics, unfortunately I just think they are too disengaged and apathetic to really make a change.

My :2twocents

Brad
 
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Obama has no chance.

The US only 1 year ago elected their 2nd black governor; the chances that they are capable of overcoming the colour issue enough to elect a black president are zero.

The republicans would love the democrats to put him up - that would be their best chance of winning next year.
 
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I'm not sure why you guys are jumping on this 'black' thing.

He's not really considered 'black', because he wasn't a descendant of slaves. That sub culture isn't really tagged to him, thus he's more like a white guy with darker skin, as far as most groups are concerned.
 
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Arturius said:
I'm not sure why you guys are jumping on this 'black' thing.

He's not really considered 'black', because he wasn't a descendant of slaves. That sub culture isn't really tagged to him, thus he's more like a white guy with darker skin, as far as most groups are concerned.
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mmm I think a large majority of white americans will disagree with you on that one.

PS Calling someone an egg plant is considered very racist eg "he's more like a white guy with darker skin" - just kidding, but you did set yourself up on that.
 
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Aussie2Aussie said:
mmm I think a large majority of white americans will disagree with you on that one.

PS Calling someone an egg plant is considered very racist eg "he's more like a white guy with darker skin" - just kidding, but you did set yourself up on that.
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No. It seems to be that Obama is actually quite unpopular with the african-american community. He is, and is regarded, as a silver bum. He wasn't exactly a child of hardship.

What is interesting is the quietness regarding his academic career and his reasons for his move into politics. From what I understand he chose to run for the Senate because he was going to be booted from his college position due to non-performance. Not exactly the sort of person you want running an administration. But I'm sure that will come out if he is the democrat nominee.

Aside from that, as a fellow liberal, some of his policies are just completely stupid. He should have got into PR, or been a used car salesman rather than a politician... hmmm.... actually, you could say that about most politicians. Just all talk, absolutely no substance I think. His misdirection on a lot of issues purely irritates me.
 
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chops_a_must said:
No. It seems to be that Obama is actually quite unpopular with the african-american community. He is, and is regarded, as a silver bum. He wasn't exactly a child of hardship.
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Arturius said:
I'm not sure why you guys are jumping on this 'black' thing.

He's not really considered 'black', because he wasn't a descendant of slaves. That sub culture isn't really tagged to him, thus he's more like a white guy with darker skin, as far as most groups are concerned.
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Interesting summary by Marie Claire Bretana:

http://ezinearticles.com/?expert=Marie_Claire_Bretana

"Although Barack was born in Hawaii and later in his adolescence grew up there with his maternal grandparents, he wasn't considered by many Blacks as African American or Black enough since his family history did not extend as far back as the slavery years.

The discrimination on Obama is not about skin color or race, but rather that of culture and life experiences. What those Blacks who are unsupportive of Obama's presidential campaign are concerned about is how well Barack can relate to the authentic African American experience. Having a Kenyan father, a White mother, and growing mostly in Hawaii and for some time in Indonesia, Barack is viewed mostly by Blacks as "not Black enough" to understand what most Blacks of this country are going through or the history they have living in America.

According to his biography at Wikipedia, after high school, Obama studied for two years at Occidental College and then transferred to Columbia University, where he majored in political science with a specialization in international relations. After receiving his B.A. degree in 1983, Obama worked for one year at Business International Corporation. In 1985, he moved to Chicago to direct a non-profit project assisting local churches to organize job training programs for residents of poor neighborhoods.

Obama entered Harvard Law School in 1988. In February 1990, The New York Times reported his election as the Harvard Law Review's "first black president in its 104-year history." He obtained his J.D. degree magna cum laude from Harvard in 1991. On returning to Chicago, Obama directed a voter registration drive, then worked for the civil rights law firm Miner, Barnhill & Galland, and taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1993 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004."


I like his attitude of listening to others' opinions and integrating their ideas into his platform, giving people problems and potential solutions to think about. I think he has captured the aspirations of the younger generation just as Kevin Rudd did here.

He was innately political in having Oprah answer Hillary's attacks on his lack of Washington experience, hence competence, thus preserving his image in not lowering himself to join the bickering. Politics can be nasty. Don't mention the war!
 

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