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Unanswered 9/11 questions

anon said:
So after all of the above arguments what conclusion did the forum members come to? Did the muslim fanatics blow the Twin Towers up, or was it done by the George Bush-CIA Inc.?

I've given it a simple test and my conclusion was that CIA was guilty, not of blowing the towers up but of not preventing them from being blown up by the muslim fanatics.

The test was based on the American Culture of taking legal action for any and every occasion that they think they can win, and thereby get huge financial rewards. 9/11 wasn't just any occasion. It was The Occasion which will be remembered for ever. Some three thousand people were killed and enormous financial losses were suffered by the occupiers and by those who dealt with them. If ever there was a case for a huge number of very expensive law suits against the U.S. Government - this would have been it. That is, if there was a shred of evidence connecting CIA or George Bush to it. It's almost five years now since the big event, and there have not been any legal action against the U.S. Government in relation to the huge loss of life and for the huge financial losses resulting from the 9/11 event.

Proof is in lack of proof, lack of any credible evidence against the CIA conspiracy theory. On the contrary, there is a lot of real evidence linking muslim extremists to this crime of the century. But even intelligent people will believe what they want to believe as we have seen on this thread.

anon


anon

There is (or was) a 7 billion dollar class action suit against Dubya et al. It was never reported in the MSM (surprise surprise surprise)


Let me try to find some references to it.
 
wayneL said:
anon

There is (or was) a 7 billion dollar class action suit against Dubya et al. It was never reported in the MSM (surprise surprise surprise)


Let me try to find some references to it.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/06.21A.pitt.watchtower.htm

Alex Jones interview with Stanley Hilton (the lawyer)
http://www.prisonplanet.tv/audio/091004hilton.mp3

The suit apparently has been dismissed! Not on the basis of any evidence or lack thereof, but on the principle of "sovereign immunity" :cautious:

Basically, a President can do whatever the hell he likes and not be held accountable :eek:

http://www.atsnn.com/story/111717.html
 
Freeballinginawetsuit said:
Julia the palestinians never had a home and were always a nomadic wandering mob not really acknowleded by their fellow Arabs.

The spoils of WW2 for the allies was Palestine. Considering what happened to the JEWS in the holocaust and the action of Europe in appeasing Hitler, what would you have considered just?

Incidently pretty much every country has snatched land in war/hostility, England did it with Australia from the aborigines (killed most of them off in Tassie as well).

The Israelis fought off the Arabs in the Yon Kippur war, held their own ground and snatched some new stuff for buffer zones.

Much of the Arab nations have not gotten over this. The fact is they cannot oppose Israel militarily and have resorted to their terrorist activities since the 60s.

Some one on this thread said Israel invented Terrorism, what a pile of rubbish.

Nations that are not effective militarily or do not wish to invade a country resort to the use of rabid individuals as terrorists to inflict harm.Why do you think Hizzbolah are in the South next to Israel, to terrorize and why is the Leboneze Army not in the South. Why has Lebonan got an active Militia policing its Southern Border?

So are you saying that the country of Palestine simply didn't exist at the end of WWII?

Julia
 
Julia said:
So are you saying that the country of Palestine simply didn't exist at the end of WWII?

Julia

No, I am saying that they are in the same boat they were back then.
A dis-organised rabble.They rely on aid support from western countries and military support from arab states. As a nation they do bugger all and always have.

As for the rest, its in my previous post. They were ripe to have their land taken. The Nazi's took it, the Pom's and Aussies took it back, the Israel's took it and the Palestinians stood by and watched it all.

At least the Italians swap sides to the next best option, the French talk well although they gave up quick and the Germans and Japanese learnt from their loss and gave up arms.

What have the Palestinians done, devious terrorist activities for 30 years. If they showed a serious attempt at intergration and democracy and being able to govern their country, I might think differently.
 
From ABC, September 8, 2006
Video shows Twin Towers attack preparations

The Arab television channel Al-Jazeera has broadcast a video which it says shows Osama bin Laden and suicide candidates of Al Qaeda preparing the September 11, 2001 attacks against the United States.
Al-Jazeera had said earlier it would broadcast "a video that included scenes showing for the first time Al Qaeda leaders preparing the September 11 attacks and practicing for their execution".
The video shows bin Laden and two of the 19 Islamist militants that took part in the attacks, Saudi nationals Hamza el-Ramdi and Wael el-Shemari.
They speak of the situation faced by Muslims in Bosnia and Chechnya.
The footage also shows hand-to-hand combat practice between people wearing masks over their heads.
Al-Jazeera says it has only aired a few minutes of a document, which it says lasts about an hour-and-a-half.


Trying not to deviate from main theme of this thread only appropriate comment would be – more unanswered questions?
 
Happy said:
Trying not to deviate from main theme of this thread only appropriate comment would be – more unanswered questions?

So will we now have the conspiracy theorists declaring that GWB had a chat with Osama and jacked up the whole thing?

Julia
 
Happy said:
Trying not to deviate from main theme of this thread only appropriate comment would be – more unanswered questions?

Well................. Yes. I have a few, but have not finished evaluating this new development.

Chief among them is: The two guys who read out martyrdom statements wre not on the passenger lists of any of the planes. Why?

There are still dozens of questions...lets ignore some of the preposterous claims... there are still dozens of things that don't add up... and emit an unpleasant smell.
 
interesting show on TV last night 11:00-12:00 aimed at proving the 9/11 incidents were a set up by the US

most of the show was about the pentagon, with small bits on the WTC

interesting, but I dont know enough to make an informed decision.
 
Dan_ said:
However if you are interested in watching a documentary and havent seen many (or any of the above) I would recommended Loose Change 2nd edition as the one to watch, it’s developed and narrated by a young guy (can't remember his name) it is very well presented and deals with a lot of factual evidence. For example it measures the melting point for steel in the buildings against recorded temperatures of burning aviation fuel and clearly highlights that the steel can withstand this type of heat for many hours (in some cases days)

Check out the links at the bottom of this page:

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

Funny reading as well. :D
 
Building 7 was said by the govt official statement that it collapsed because of fire. Yet it was recorded it only had small isolated fires in a few different floors. ANd no modern tower which has reinforced steel ever collapesed under fire in history. Even examples shown where fire burned the entire middle section of a tower where only the steel remains, after 18 hours of burning, the tower still stands!

And the engineers are saying it is impossible that fire could bring down those towers, it was clearly explosives/detonators (as in a demolition job).

Even the owner of Building 7 in an interview said "the chief fireman called me on the phone and said he is going to 'pull it'" (demolish it). So why does the official statement still say Bldg 7 was brought down by fire? And putting detonators in a building takes days of work, and how did they manage to linkt he building floor by floor with explosives when it was in fire, unless it was planted way before 9-11?
Even many firemen said there were secondary devices in the 2 towers, as isolated lower levels and the reception level was blown out (from within), but the 9-11 panel didnt release any of the firemen's statements.
 
imaginator said:
And the engineers are saying it is impossible that fire could bring down those towers, it was clearly explosives/detonators (as in a demolition job).

This was treated earlier in the thread. It clearly wasn't.
The engineers know precisely how the tower failed and they were aware of its weaknesses before the incident occurred. Beware of believing anything you read on the net without checking facts.

Refer attached from an educated source.

http://www.civil.usyd.edu.au/wtc.shtml
 
From ABC, September 14, 2006
Syria sees chance to improve ties with US after attack

Syria suggested that its efforts in foiling a brazen daylight attack on the US embassy in Damascus could pave the way for an improvement in tense relations between the two nations.
It earned rare praise from US President George W Bush's administration for thwarting Tuesday's attack, which saw Islamist gunmen using mortars, automatic weapons and explosives-rigged vehicles to try to storm the compound.
Three attackers and one Syrian security guard were killed in a gun battle outside the embassy following the unprecedented attack in Damascus that also left 14 people injured but no American casualties.
A fourth gunman died of his injuries in hospital, state-run SANA news agency said on Wednesday, adding that all four assailants had been Syrian nationals.
"Due to his critical condition, investigators were unable to interrogate him to unravel this terrorist operation," for which there has been no claim of responsibility, the agency said.
SANA's report appeared to contradict claims by a senior US official who said in Washington late on Tuesday that the gunman captured during the attack had been cooperating with Syrian authorities.
As the US embassy remained closed amid warnings to Americans to keep a low-profile, some believed the attack could help to improve ties between Washington and Damascus.
Syrian officials have called the attack a "terrorist" act, with state media describing the assailants as "tafkiri" Islamist radicals.
Relations between Washington and Damascus took a turn for the worse in February 2005 amid accusations that Syria was involved in the murder of former Lebanese prime minister Rafiq Hariri.
Tensions mounted over Syria's support for the Muslim Shiite Lebanese Hezbollah group in its month-long war with Israel and last week the White House branded Syria and regional ally Iran "especially worrisome" threats.
The United States praised Syria for protecting its embassy and citizens and foiling the attack.
"I do think that the Syrians reacted to this attack in a way that helped to secure our people and we very much appreciate that," US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said.
The Syrian government daily Tishrin meanwhile urged the international community to close ranks in the fight against terrorism.
"The international community must step up its efforts for a real fight against terrorism," it said in an editorial.
Syria's embassy in Washington on Tuesday had blamed the attack on US policies in the Middle East and said it must review its position on Iraq and the Palestinians.
Analysts also hoped both sides would draw lessons from the attack and move towards improving ties in order to stem terrorism.
- AFP

From above quote suspicious mind can pick up something to fuel conspiracy theory.

Syria suggested that its efforts in foiling a brazen daylight attack on the US embassy in Damascus could pave the way for an improvement in tense relations between the two nations.


Using the same way of sceptic approach, somebody could say what a coincidence? Could this be staged?

Of course bit off tract, but same approach.
 
Syria is terrified of the US who could easily conquer the little country.
It is also very scared of Iran who believe the government should not be securlist nationalist Arab state but should be part of it's Islam religous state, don't forget Syria was an ally of Iraq who was also a secularist arab state.

Syria is trying to appease two elephants on its back fence at the same time.
If the US moved out of Iraq, then Syria will be next on the hit list for Iran.
 
Julia said:
So will we now have the conspiracy theorists declaring that GWB had a chat with Osama and jacked up the whole thing?

Julia

Are you suggesting the U.S government and Osama have never made deals?

The U.S gov supplied Osama with all kinds of weapons during the 80's to defend Afghanistan against the ruskies in an attempt to stabilise the middle east. So is it possible they made another deal? of course:

http://crashy.zoto.com/user/image_d...21978419bf76-_CAT.0/date_uploaded-desc/120-30
 
Well I thought this thread needs re-invigorating while the Ponzi Scheme called World Financial Markets and FIAT Currency's Scam starts unravelling before our eyes.

I have my own opinions as to what is going on in our world, the important thing for everyone else is to do your own research...

The key to all of this research is FOLLOW THE MONEY!!!

Anyway, what this thread is missing was some of the Major 9/11 Videos that have been produced. So here are some of the best I have come across to date:

ZEITGEIST, The Movie

This one links Christianity, 9/11 and the Federal Reserve. If your Christian you might be offended by Part 1, Sources ==> http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/sources.htm
http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=5547481422995115331


They Want Your Soul

Good follow on from Zeitgeist

http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=209842906347732903


THE TRUTH & LIES OF 9/11

This is a great video. Links, CIA to Drugs, Wall Street, etc and also goes into the background events of 9/11

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8797525979024486145


Terrorstorm Final Cut

Covers in detail the proven history of government sponsored terrorism, and focuses on the 7/7 London bombings and 9/11

http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=-8136133221213939183


Loose Change 2nd Edition Recut

http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501


The Ultimate Con

This has no narration or conjecture, only news footage and interviews to tell the story

http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=-751298171535560228


Some good Federal Reserve/IRS Videos


America: Freedom to Fascism

Determined to find the law that requires American citizens to pay income tax, producer Aaron Russo ("The Rose," "Trading Places") set out on a journey to find the evidence. This film which is neither left, nor right-wing is a startling examination of government. It exposes the systematic erosion of civil liberties in America since 1913 when the Federal Reserve system was fraudulently created. Through interviews with U.S.

Congressmen, a former IRS Commissioner, former IRS and FBI agents and tax attorneys and authors, Russo connects the dots between money creation, federal income tax, and the national identity card which becomes law in May 2008. This ID card will use Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) chips which are essentially homing devices used to track people. This film shows in great detail and undeniable facts that America is moving headlong into a fascist police state. Wake up!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173


Monopoly Men (Federal Reserve Fraud)

The Federal Reserve, or the Fed as it is lovingly called, may be one of the most mysterious entities in modern American government. Created during Wilson's presidency to protect the economy in times of financial turmoil, its real business remains to be discovered. During the Wilson presidency, the U.S. government sanctions the creation of the Federal Reserve. Thought by many to be a government organization maintained to provide financial accountability in the event of a domestic depression, the actual business of the Fed is shrouded in secrecy.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7065177340464808778
 
Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe
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Folks, this is a major story and will be totally ignored by ABCNNBBCBS.

This is a peer-reviewed report in a science journal which confirms the presence of a manufactured material consisting of tiny flakes of aluminum metal coated with iron oxide discovered at four different locations in the wreckage of the World Trade Center.

Aluminum and iron oxide, mixed equally by weight, is the classic recipe for thermite. This material is very fine, increasing its burn speed, and apparently has some additional components (besides the very fine granular size) which lower the ignition temperature.

This report directly contradicts the official government claim that there was no trace of internal explosives in the ruins of the World Trade Center.

See Thermite and the WTC Collapses

See 9/11: All In One Chunk

below link. to scientific analysis by an independent, repected lab...

http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM
 
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