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Yes could be a sign of worse to come, the US looks particularly soft.
 
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MrBurns,

It will help your investing immensely if you pay scant attention to the mainstream media here in Aus (or most countries for that matter). Their job is to create headlines people read, not financially accurate, fact based articles unfortunately
 
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So you don't think the current downturn has anything to do with what happening in the world ?

I know the media , don't worry about that but true or not they effect the market.
 
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So you don't think the current downturn has anything to do with what happening in the world ?

I know the media , don't worry about that but true or not they effect the market.

Not the domestic media. they haven't a friggin clue.
 
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The mood of the market is negative. Mainstream media try to play it down but the exodus of off-shore investor money trying to get out before the drop in the Aud$ erodes any capital gains on our shares is in full flight.
 
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Last week the market was falling because the US economy was improving and QE might be ending. This week the market is falling because the US economy isn't improving as quickly as it was last week.

I think they just have a rotating bag of headlines to explain every outcome.
 
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Not the domestic media. they haven't a friggin clue.

You can feel the negativity in the air, a few weeks ago it was different, cant explain it, it started when the money started flowing out of Oz, then the Telstra thing, now WA almost in recession, no big deal but it's all negative and all adds up.
 
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So you don't think the current downturn has anything to do with what happening in the world ?

I think it has nothing to do with what the mainstream media reports. Do you honestly think big hedge fund traders etc get their news from The Age, or is it only the piddly retail traders who are down the bottom of the investment chain that take any notice of it?

There has been negativity in the air for the last 4 - 5 years, everyone is still hanging out for the boom days that aren't coming back
 
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I think it has nothing to do with what the mainstream media reports. Do you honestly think big hedge fund traders etc get their news from The Age,

No the Age gets their news from them and follows their lead on these matters, plus if there's bad economic news it feeds through.
The mainstream news is just one source of information.
 
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If you want to see how the sentiment is then watch what the market does on big news days and the day after. In a bull market nothing can stop that train...even bad news gets run over. Then all of the sudden, like you said, things change and even the relatively good economic numbers are taken totally differently. Then that catches the media off guard and they start wrapping stories around it so they can explain it...they don't understand the market structure so they need to use something that they do understand, and the moms and pops understand. Then all of the sudden, the big move in the market was because of blah blah....

Its amazing to see, once you are able to see it. You see when you are looking at the market through the structure of the market, you are able to tell when a move is likely....and that's usually the result of news a while back already or news that not even released yet, in some cases.

Interesting subject though. Can't help but laugh the way the Muppets wrap the stores around the price actions.

If you want to see news affect prices then you need to watch intra-day prices, the US esp.

CanOz
 
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Unless the news is two planes flying into the WTC. Would have liked the days before newspaper for that one.
 
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I got this in a newsletter just before the recent movements:


Thought it was interesting to see someone commenting on something so inane, and yet called the outcome perfectly. Also interesting to see the media seemingly ahead of the money for once.
 
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I suspect you may have missed the cynicism in his post, where-in the ABC's axing of Banana's in Pajama's is a significant economic influence.
 
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Unless the news is two planes flying into the WTC. Would have liked the days before newspaper for that one.

Or the day afters newspaper before close of trade the day before.
 

Yup, that's pretty much what happened. Thats news that can move markets...but...the structure of the market was likely ready for that as well, in other words no new longer time frame players had initiate anymore longs, many have increased their short positions, months ago.
 
Still declining, I'll let you know what's happening after it's over.............like most "experts"
 
Still declining, I'll let you know what's happening after it's over.............like most "experts"

Nah will get a run up from 2 pm today into the close. That will keep the up trend in stocks like TLS, CBA etc for next week to push higher.....
 
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By the time the news hits the main media it's too late. Those in the know have already taken their positions and the main media is playing into their hands what they want.
 
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