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WW3

You're eager for some action aren't you Snake? ;)

Was Snake Pliskin the character from 'Escape from Los Angeles' or something like that?
 
Didn't Nostradamus predict war around now? Supposed to last until 2020?

If it happens, just hope you're not in Italy :p
 
Snake Pliskin said:
Any of you think WW3 will happen or not?

Read this and decide for yourself:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/paul-she...-borderless-war/2006/07/16/1152988408994.html

There doesn't seem to be a lot of resolve to avoid it does there?

This is a %^$&ing dangerous game the Yanks, Islamists, Zionists, Koreans etc are playing.

What's the saying? "Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it" or something like that! :eek:

Buckle up! It's going to be a rough ride nevertheless! :mad:
 
I think you might be right Snake...

Some few key points from the ariticle...

"By blaming the Lebanese Government for Hezbollah's actions, Israel has demanded the impossible from its neighbour."


As if Iraq wasn't warning enought, Israel, have chosen to escalate the conflict, and have taken the bait offered to them, in the form of two soldiers being kidnapped. (similar to the relatively minor instances that started off WWI and WWII)... Israel has now the majority of the world opinion against it...

"Iran, the prototype of the modern Islamic theocracy (which also wants the nuclear bomb to match and trump Israel's nuclear option), is stronger today than it was a week ago. It already wields disproportionate power in the Middle East through its proxies helping to tie down 150,000 US troops in Iraq, which is 60 per cent Shiite. Now, thanks to its proxies in Lebanon, Israel has been goaded into an attack on a democratic neighbour."

As things stand now, Israel is fighting on two fronts, Lebanon and Palestine, and Syria and Iran looking on menacingly.... The US is bogged down in Iraq... and is streched to the limit... and Iran is looking on with glee...

Syria and Iran are probably going to let this continue for a while... biding their time waiting for an oppurtune moment when Israel and US are weakend.... before striking...

The only thing that will save the US and Israel is their nuclear weapons... I can't see them win the war with conventional weapons alone!


PS: talking about being suckers... I would not be surpised if the mis-information of Iraqis weapons of mass destruction was fed to US by Iran... A strong Iraq was vital to balance the threat of a strong Iran... This was always the policy of all US administrations except Bush! The IDIOTS called the coalition of the willing have now installed Iranian (****e) rule in Iraq.... ! :mad:

BUT.... the US have the nukes.... :cool:
 
There are so many western scholar theories regarding why these so called "terrorists" do what they do........What is so frustrating is that no one in the mainstream media has stopped and simply asked What has driven these people to be willing to die for their 'cause'........I think if we look back to 1948 when Israel 'settled' in Palestine, maybe then we begin to understand a tiny bit of WHY these guys are so pissed off!!!! :mad:

Im sorry but if my neighbour decided to move into my house and claim it as his own, then force me to live in the laundry while he killed my kids for not getting out of their rooms and raped my wife and mother at will while telling the local papers that he had a right to protect himself from me because i was getting a little annoyed and wanted to kill him and his family then maybe IM in the wrong....... :confused: :confused:

Lets not be so brainwashed by the media, lets research history and get to the 'ACTUAL' root of the problem.....this newspaper clip is just one more scaremongering crowd pleasing narrative by an ignorant journalist....... BTW im not islamic and i do not support this so called 'terrorism' but I have researched this stuff in detail and I cant believe the masses are letting these lies go on and on......we need to open our eyes :2twocents
 
Well i do know 1 thing if it starts to escalate into something much bigger than i know what i must do to serve my country.


Go Short on the market!!!!!!!!!!!!!

While useless wars are fought and billions of dollars are wasted ill just make more money and donate some of it back to people who really need it.
 
Syria and Iran are probably going to let this continue for a while... biding their time waiting for an oppurtune moment when Israel and US are weakend.... before striking...

The only thing that will save the US and Israel is their nuclear weapons... I can't see them win the war with conventional weapons alone!

Israel could handle Syria, no doubt. Look at history when they were attacked from all sides and fended off the attackers. It has been the policy of Israel to live in peace, but they don`t get it.

As for Iran, they are running on borrowed time. Change of power there is the only option for future peace in the area. It won`t come to nukes unless Iran drops one first.
 
Snake Pliskin said:
Look at history when they were attacked from all sides and fended off the attackers. It has been the policy of Israel to live in peace, but they don`t get it.


Hmmm, i think Israel attacked first... in the 6 day war... when it took over territories over and above what was given to it by the UN... The Jewish settlements in territories occupied in the 1967 war lead to the formation of PLO and Hamas... who naturally wanted their land back.

found a few excerpts on the internet (google)
"The main danger which Israel, as a 'Jewish state', poses to its own people, to other Jews and to its neighbors, is its ideologically motivated pursuit of territorial expansion and the inevitable series of wars resulting from this aim...No zionist politician has ever repudiated Ben-Gurion's idea that Israeli policies must be based (within the limits of practical considerations) on the restoration of Biblical borders as the borders of the Jewish state." Israeli professor, Israel Shahak, "Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of 3000 Years."

"In violation of international law, Israel has confiscated over 52 percent of the land in the West Bank and 30 percent of the Gaza Strip for military use or for settlement by Jewish civilians...From 1967 to 1982, Israel's military government demolished 1,338 Palestinian homes on the West Bank. Over this period, more than 300,000 Palestinians were detained without trial for various periods by Israeli security forces." Intifada: The Palestinian Uprising Against Israeli Occupation," ed. Lockman and Beinin.


"A study of students at Bethlehem University reported by the Coordinating Committee of International NGOs in Jerusalem showed that many families frequently go five days a week without running water...The study goes further to report that, 'water quotas restrict usage by Palestinians living in the West Bank and Gaza, while Israeli settlers have almost unlimited amounts.'

"A summer trip to a Jewish settlement on the edge of the Judean desert less than five miles from Bethlehem confirmed this water inequity for us. While Bethlehemites were buying water from tank trucks at highly inflated rates, the lawns were green in the settlement. Sprinklers were going at mid day in the hot August sunshine. Sounds of children swimming in the outdoor pool added to the unreality." Betty Jane Bailey, in "The Link", December 1996.

but lets forget about whose right and wrong... that is in the past... in the end, you reap what you sow, either in this life, or the next (depending on your beleifs)

Back to the strategy of winning WWIII....
As things stand at the moment... I don't think the America and Israel can win a war, in Arab heartland, without using weapons of mass destruction!
 
And before Snake or anyone else gets fired up about who is to blame...

here is the Jewish view point...

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths/mf6.html



and this is where i found the other pro palestinian quotes from
http://www.cactus48.com/1967war.html



Please read all points of view, to work out who is to blame...


I'm not really fussed on who is to blame, cause I am sure blame can be attributed to all sides... but rather, how do we stop, prevent, conclude, end the makings of WWIII!
 
Another issue is that the Wacko's in the US think that this is the end of times and are pushing for the war to happen as it will bring about the rapture.

MIT
 
Ageo said:
Well i do know 1 thing if it starts to escalate into something much bigger than i know what i must do to serve my country.


Go Short on the market!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A bright light in a thread of gloom!
 
Snake Pliskin said:
There are those who are head in the sand and PC. :eek:
After our discussion on whales I never thought you'd call me pc. :cool:
It is scaremongering.. if you go looking for trouble it's pretty easy to find...it's been happening for years it doesn't mean the end of the world is coming anytime soon
My present view is Israel's aggression towards Hezzbaloah is as much a warning to Iran's Ahamadijenad ...theyv'e publicy stated that they won't let Iran go on with it's nucleur enrichment and I'd bet my bottom dollar they won't :2twocents
 
Rafa said:
And before Snake or anyone else gets fired up about who is to blame...

here is the Jewish view point...

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths/mf6.html



and this is where i found the other pro palestinian quotes from
http://www.cactus48.com/1967war.html



Please read all points of view, to work out who is to blame...


I'm not really fussed on who is to blame, cause I am sure blame can be attributed to all sides... but rather, how do we stop, prevent, conclude, end the makings of WWIII!

Thanks for the links Rafa.
 
kgee said:
After our discussion on whales I never thought you'd call me pc. :cool:
It is scaremongering.. if you go looking for trouble it's pretty easy to find...it's been happening for years it doesn't mean the end of the world is coming anytime soon
My present view is Israel's aggression towards Hezzbaloah is as much a warning to Iran's Ahamadijenad ...theyv'e publicy stated that they won't let Iran go on with it's nucleur enrichment and I'd bet my bottom dollar they won't :2twocents

Kgee,
I can`t remember the whale talk with you, I only remember regulars on this forum. Not calling you directly PC, just there are those who are though.

Lets not forget the fact that the disfunctional UN has ordered hezbollah to disarm. They attack Israel and Israel has a right to defend itself. Its that simple.

But hey, all arabs have the most rights, and can be terrorists and shun world opinion just because they are arabs and Islamic. Israel needs to look at itself hard too.

We are in WW3 now and it is going to get worse, just like it did under Hitler and Mussolinni, there were those saying oh it will never happen but look at history.
 
Sars, even bird flu can stop the war, flu stopped WWI I, and if history repeats itself, there is a chance.
 
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