World War III: Has it Started?

[Julia]

Agree.

If there is to be a War, I'd prefer a Keating, Howard or Abbott leading Australia, rather than a Turnbull, Gillard or Rudd.

Conviction, thought, execution and mojo count more in a war than soft spin.

gg

That's actually an interesting light in which to consider the candidates. Agree with you. Although I have reservations about Tony Abbott, I'd be happy to depend on him acting in Australia's best interests in a crisis, along with, as you suggest. Howard and Keating. Forget the rest. They are without genuine conviction.

 

[wayneL]

Agree.

If there is to be a War, I'd prefer a Keating, Howard or Abbott leading Australia, rather than a Turnbull, Gillard or Rudd.

Conviction, thought, execution and mojo count more in a war than soft spin.

gg

War can bring out the best in people, sometimes something straight out of the hat. Churchill being a case in point... a former useless upper class twit and buffoon, a disastrous failure in WWI, yet the most inspirational leader of the 20th century in WWII; yet subsequently voted out on his @ss in the post war period portrayed as war monger by the ungrateful socialist toe-rags, consigned to depression and the indignity of old age without a purpose. Being right about the USSR being little consolation.

No one can know the mettle unless the mettle is tested, but I suspect your perceptions of these individuals are reasonably accurate...

In the current situation, I think I'd prefer Abbott over Dullard in the event of war, but this can only be demonstrated in the actual event... but let's hope this is never necessary.

...just my musings on the matter.

 

[pixel]

Agree.

If there is to be a War, I'd prefer a Keating, Howard or Abbott leading Australia, rather than a Turnbull, Gillard or Rudd.

Conviction, thought, execution and mojo count more in a war than soft spin.

gg

I agree to an extent, gg.

However, there is a huge difference between the conditions confronting Howard in 2003 and the current ones. Howard could follow GWB into Iraq because he had Kim Beazley's backing. Whatever Gillard does, is either dictated by a bunch of fluffheads and single-minded excentrics; or blocked/ watered-down by an opposition leader as a matter of principle.

As a wise old Statesman once said:

Politics is the art of the possible, the attainable - the art of the next best.

For Howard, it was "possible" to invade Iraq and play GWB's little deputy in the Pacific. He could also take a strong and effective stand against "the boats". With the power distributed as it is today, neither Rudd nor Gillard found that possible.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

For what it is worth I now believe we are in a War.

WW111.

Islamic-Fascists of the Extreme Islamist Mohammed Believing Faction against the Rest, Us.

I abhor godbotherers.

Most just sing hallelujahs, impose misogyny or tribalism or get their kicks from control.

Whether they follow Mohammed, Jesus, Elijah or some other brand does not matter.

And many of the followers of Mohammed, Jesus and Elijah are reasonable people.

Our problem is with the extreme Islamist Mohammed Fascist thugs who can snuff a good life out with a prayer to their god.

**** them.

Game on.

gg

 

[McLovin]

Re: World War 111 Has it Started

We're appeasing the demands of a minority without getting anything return which allows the radical Muslims to set the agenda. A perfect example was the recent decision by British government no longer to teach the Holocaust in its school system because it offends some Muslims

This is completely false.

 

[DB008]

Good pick up there McLovin.

If you Google 'Holocaust not taught in UK schools', you get a bunch of results back (like below)

A report by Britain’s Department for Education and Skills notes that an increasing number of schools are dropping the teaching of the Holocaust from history lessons to avoid offending Muslim students. The report, titled Teaching Emotive and Controversial History, also observes that many teachers are reluctant to discuss the Crusades because the lessons frequently contradict what is taught in local mosques.http://www.examiner.com/article/british-schools-drop-holocaust-from-history-lessons-so-as-not-to-offend-muslims

Dig a little deeper...

T.E.A.C.H Report

http://www.history.org.uk/resources/resource_780.html

The TEACH report outlines the sort of good practice in teaching sensitive topics which is available for teachers to share, not least through the Historical Association's programme of subject-specific training.

The Teaching of the Holocaust in English Schools

The Historical Association is disturbed to learn that false and misleading claims about the teaching of the Holocaust are being made on the internet to the effect that English schools are being discouraged from teaching about the Holocaust in case it might offend Muslim pupils or their parents. These claims appear to have their origin in a serious misreading of the Association's 2007 report on the teaching of emotive and controversial issues in history (TEACH).

These claims are not true.

There is therefore no basis whatever for claiming that the Holocaust has in any way been removed from or downgraded within the secondary school history curriculum.

Many historical topics, including the Crusades, the Transatlantic Slave Trade or the Arab-Israeli conflict, can be considered emotive and controversial. The TEACH report found, in interviews with teachers carried out before 2007, that some teachers sometimes feel uncertain how best to approach such topics in such a way as to do the topics justice while respecting the feelings of particular groups of pupils. At no point did any teacher interviewed for the TEACH report claim to have avoided teaching about the Holocaust at Key Stage 3 for fear of offending Muslim children.

The TEACH report outlines the sort of good practice in teaching sensitive topics which is available for teachers to share, not least through the Historical Association's programme of subject-specific training.

Professor Barry Coward
President

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Whether WWW111 has or has not started, it is stunning, the silence of moderate Islamists to the atrocities committed by their erstwhile co-religionists, followers of Muhammed.

Christians criticise Christians, Jews do so to Jews.

But there is a silence from moderate followers of Muhammed.

They must be too frightened to speak, lest they suffer the fate of "unbelievers".

I cannot understand it.

And I have friends who are Muslims, who change the subject when it is raised, or say " it is too difficult ".

gg

 

[baby_swallow]

It will be sparked by the current tensions in South China Sea and in Europe......
Question: What will happen to the sharemarket, or the financial world as a whole???

http://www.news.com.au/world/the-wa...ocative-postures/story-fndir2ev-1227371823129

 

[luutzu]

It will be sparked by the current tensions in South China Sea and in Europe......
Question: What will happen to the sharemarket, or the financial world as a whole???

http://www.news.com.au/world/the-wa...ocative-postures/story-fndir2ev-1227371823129

Have you seen Mad Max?
If we go nuclear, we'd be lucky if there's some topsoil left to grow a carrot or two. Forget about the financial markets.


Yesterday NATO and allies carried out some wargames in the Arctic above Russia; Russia responded with 12,000 and some 346 aircraft defensive wargame of its own.

China is building airstrips in the South China Sea, put up a couple of lighthouses and dare the US to do something about it... that and shooing them away.

Then there's the Middle East and North Africa and their uprisings and general terror and mayhem.

Add to that economic and financial meltdowns we're yet to get out of; and unlikely for a while given the massive unemployed, underemployed and generally poor and desperate living from paycheck to paycheck while the rich managed to set record $3 billion US dollar auctioning for some paintings and a few collectibles.


The last time these kind of conditions exists the Ottoman collapsed, the French Empire shrivelled and collapsed, the British Empire sets with most of Europe and Asia levelled and a new world power rises.

Now that all major powers have nukes to play with... if it goes to midnight, maybe new species will rise after a few thousand years.

 

[baby_swallow]

getting scarier by the day.......

"China moves weapons on to artificial islands in South China Sea"

http://www.smh.com.au/national/chin...lands-in-south-china-sea-20150527-ghb3vv.html

 

[wayneL]

We have all imagined that world war three will be fought between superpowers with nuclear weapons.

Perhaps not. Perhaps it has already started,a war of attrition and will between politico-religious ideologies irrespective of state, rather than started off opposing purely political ideologies.

 

[luutzu]

We have all imagined that world war three will be fought between superpowers with nuclear weapons.

Perhaps not. Perhaps it has already started,a war of attrition and will between politico-religious ideologies irrespective of state, rather than started off opposing purely political ideologies.

We the people better start reining these employees of ours in before they destroy the world and everything in it.

Clinton call her vote for Iraq invasion a "mistake"... wow man, if a mistake could costs millions of lives, displace millions more and unleash wars all over the region... if that's a "mistake", it'll be scary what a fark up would be.

Obama, a peace loving guy, call Iraq a "strategic blunder"... maybe killing millions here, hundreds of thousands there... if it serve his grand strategy it wouldn't be so bad then? fark. Is using drones all over the place a strategy or a tactic? I guess it succeeds in... ??

And remember Bush Jr? Cracking jokes about not finding WMDs at those fancy dinners? Yea, funny ha ha... scaring the heck out of every American about mushroom clouds so need to liberate the world from the Axis of Evil, then opps... sorry folks, sorry your kids died following me and my band of arm chair warriors... Sorry Iraqis that a million or two of your folks will die. Actually, I don't even think they've ever apologised... they feel they're misunderstood and history will be kinder to their heroic deeds.

 

[explod]

I think it is unfolding whilst the MSM is focused on Trump

http://www.news.com.au/world/russia...s/news-story/a3a445dba24ade74c4da76460d4a144a

 

[CanOz]

I think it is unfolding whilst the MSM is focused on Trump

http://www.news.com.au/world/russia...s/news-story/a3a445dba24ade74c4da76460d4a144a

Utter rubbish explod, it even reinforces how little you really know about gold....if the world really thought we were above to go to WWIII, wouldn't you expect gold to go parabolic????

 

[explod]

Utter rubbish explod, it even reinforces how little you really know about gold....if the world really thought we were above to go to WWIII, wouldn't you expect gold to go parabolic????

Maybe. JPM, Rothschild, Russia,China et al are keeping the lid on gold with paper contracts whilst they take in all the physical they can get hold of. Check the charts and note the huge paper dumps during periods of quiet trading.

Rothschild Family Dumps U.S. Dollar For Gold & 'Other Currencies ...
https://cointelegraph.com/.../rothschild-dumps-us-dollar-for-gold-other-currencies-bit...
Aug 22, 2016 - The Rothschild family recently announced that they are moving out of the U.S. Dollar, the global reserve currency, into gold and 'other currencies'. Can it be Bitcoin? ... Viewer discretion is advised. Gold · Bitcoin · Dollar · USA ...


Gold will rise after the starting gun.

However this thread is not about gold. Its time to acquire a gas mask IMHO

 

[explod]

Not looking good in my view.

Russian military experts have threatened the United States and asked it to be prepared for World War 3 to commence soon.

The tension between Russia and the US has been increasing, with a series of attacks and counter-attacks taking place between them. America has also accused the former of “war crimes” in Syria earlier that escalated the bitterness between the two nations, which continued to exist after the Cold War. At the moment, both the nations are experiencing the same level of tension that they used to have during the Cold War.


Where America is blaming Russia for the Syria conflict, Russia has accused the US of “unprecedented threats” and “borderline insolence” on Sunday. This has come following the failure of attempts of talks on the ceasefire in Syria.

“The threats directed against Moscow and our state’s leadership are unprecedented because they are voiced at the level of the US vice president,” Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said as quoted by The Daily Star Online. “To the backdrop of this aggressive, unpredictable line, we must take measures to protect our interests, to hedge risks.”

On the other hand, Russian military official Lt General Yevgeny Buzhinsky has claimed that the West nations were provoking their anger. “Of course there is a reaction. As far as Russia sees it, as Putin sees it, it is full-scale confrontation on all fronts. If you want a confrontation, you’ll get one,” he said. “But it won’t be a confrontation that doesn’t harm the interests of the United States. You want a confrontation, you’ll get one everywhere.”


Russia has become one of the major threats for not only the United States as far as World War 3 is concerned but also a danger for the rest of the world. The actions and reactions, all indicating international conflict, have alarmed nations worldwide, making them prepare for the next conflict that will go down in history.

RELATED ITEMS:FEATURED, RUSSIA, UNITED STATES, WORLD WAR 3

 

[CanOz]

Not looking good in my view.

What's the source of this ridiculous scare mongering?? Or is this someone's opinion??

 

[SirRumpole]

The US has declined in power but is still the No. 1 superpower and I don't think Russia (NB not the Soviet Union) would take them on directly, yet.

Probably the big threat is a Russia - China alliance, but can China afford to lose all the trade it does with the West ?

I don't think WW3 is imminent atm, but I think the West has to be prepared to up it's arms production to stay ahead of Russia and China.

 

[explod]

What's the source of this ridiculous scare mongering?? Or is this someone's opinion??

https://www.google.com.au/amp/www.a...sia-tells-us-get-ready-war/amp/?client=safari

 

[explod]

Sorry the last comes up as a 404 error. FBI probably got to it

Anyway there is plenty of the ranting on Zero Hedge:

Russian rumors of permanent military presence in Middle East


On Friday, the Kremlin announced that Putin just ratified an agreement with Syria that allows Russia to use one of its air bases indefinitely, creating a more permanent Russian presence in the Middle East. Russia also announced last week plans to build a permanent naval base in the Syrian port town of Tartus. (The Jerusalem Post)

As mentioned in my previous article, Russia also announced during the prior week that it would start shooting down any unidentified jets flying over Syria. These would most likely be US stealth bombers. In response, the UK ordered Royal Air Force pilots to shoot down any Russian jets flying over Syria and Iraq if they feel endangered by them — pilot’s discretion. “We now have a situation where a single pilot, irrespective of nationality, can have a strategic impact on future events.” (Zero Hedge)