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I agree, it is a must watch FOR ALL as a perfect example of how propoganda. I pity those sucked in by it.
Here is the same garbage but debunked:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=847jCeQoXU8&feature=fvw
Proof of migration of Muslims to Western World countries.
Scary stuff to say the least. A must watch FOR ALL.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU
The West's decision vindicates the remark of a radical US-born Yemen-based Islamist leader, Anwar al-Awlaki, in al-Qaeda's new English-language online magazine, Inspire: ''America cannot and will not win. The tables have turned and there is no rolling back of the worldwide jihad movement. On the eve of 9-11 it was Afghanistan alone. Today it is Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Somalia, North Africa, the Arabian Peninsula, and the list is growing.''
As with many situations, here, one side gives an exaggerated version of the story, the other side counters with an exaggerated version/stance in the opposite direction, and no one tells it as it is, or if they do, they are not listened to, because the real story is not as exciting as the exaggerations.
When illeagal boat people arrive on our shores, they destroy their ID and passports and our security have no idea who they are. If one in a thousand happened to be a Islamic fanatic, that would be one too many.
Nice to see a bit of reason posted up every now and then.Look, simple question: if you were a terrorist, why would you come into the country by the single most dangerous method, the slowest and most difficult by a tremendous margin, and the one that is guaranteed to place you under the largest possible amount of scrutiny and give you (what is effectively) a lengthy jail term, when you could just get a tourist visa and a plane ticket?
You think terrorists can't afford a plane ticket?
This reasoning is quite simply so utterly stupid, so completely devoid of any rational thought whatsoever, that it just boggles my mind that the human race hasn't already wiped itself out in an orgy of xenophobia.
PS: for a refugee to come to Australia by any means, including boat, it is 100% LEGAL.
Had a look at the original story quoted by Noco. Then saw it was written by Andrew Bolt and recognised (as it turned out) that it would be a really twisted piece of propaganda as only Andrew can execute.
Somehow along the line we might like to recognize that the Muslim religion has separate streams and that the rise and prominence of extreme Islamic sects is just as much a problem for the majority of Muslims as it is for us.
From the other side of the fence how does it look to Muslims or other religions when extreme orthodox Jewish groups demand the expulsion of all Arabs from the Holy lands and then create settlements in Jerusalem to achieve that goal?
How does it look when the more extreme Christian religious groups decide to publicly burn the Koran in Afghanistan ? How about when all Muslims are treated as terrorists simply because they have a different belief ? Because that is how some groups are trying to take America and to an extent Australia.
In the same context we have this huge campaign against a "mosque on the 9/11 site" in New York. This is supposed to be an insult to the martyrs who died in the terrorist attacks.
The small problem is that the proposal is actually for a community centre with a prayer room. A prayer room just like the ones they have in the Pentagon and other places that offer a respect for peoples religious views - just as we expect a similar respect for ours. The campaign is just another load of misinformation to whip up anti Muslim hysteria.
Unfortunately one can find aggressive and/or terrorist behavior under the banner of Christianity, Judaism and Islam. Trying to paint any religion as a haven for terrorism is just simplistic and a quick way to make people feel attacked - and want to defend themselves.
Yeah those were my sentiments exactly. Bolt, Australias No.1 demagogue. He's our very own Rush Limbaugh.
A commentator pointed out how the whole Ground Zero Mosque saga unfolded right about the time the GOP blocked the bill to increase entitlements to 9/11 first responders. The Wag the Dog theory is not so fictional it seems.
Yeah those were my sentiments exactly. Bolt, Australias No.1 demagogue. He's our very own Rush Limbaugh.
As noco has already asked, why do either of you attribute this piece to Andrew Bolt? He hasn't even been mentioned as far as I can see.Had a look at the original story quoted by Noco. Then saw it was written by Andrew Bolt and recognised (as it turned out) that it would be a really twisted piece of propaganda as only Andrew can execute.
All quite reasonable points.Somehow along the line we might like to recognize that the Muslim religion has separate streams and that the rise and prominence of extreme Islamic sects is just as much a problem for the majority of Muslims as it is for us.
From the other side of the fence how does it look to Muslims or other religions when extreme orthodox Jewish groups demand the expulsion of all Arabs from the Holy lands and then create settlements in Jerusalem to achieve that goal?
How does it look when the more extreme Christian religious groups decide to publicly burn the Koran in Afghanistan ? How about when all Muslims are treated as terrorists simply because they have a different belief ? Because that is how some groups are trying to take America and to an extent Australia.
I don't really agree with you here. Surely there are other much less inflammatory places where they can have their community centre.In the same context we have this huge campaign against a "mosque on the 9/11 site" in New York. This is supposed to be an insult to the martyrs who died in the terrorist attacks.
The small problem is that the proposal is actually for a community centre with a prayer room. A prayer room just like the ones they have in the Pentagon and other places that offer a respect for peoples religious views - just as we expect a similar respect for ours. The campaign is just another load of misinformation to whip up anti Muslim hysteria.
As noco has already asked, why do either of you attribute this piece to Andrew Bolt? He hasn't even been mentioned as far as I can see.
Perhaps you're so used to pinning anything which is anti-Muslim on Mr Bolt that you don't even stop to discover the correct attribution.
As noco has already asked, why do either of you attribute this piece to Andrew Bolt? He hasn't even been mentioned as far as I can see.
Perhaps you're so used to pinning anything which is anti-Muslim on Mr Bolt that you don't even stop to discover the correct attribution.
I don't really agree with you here. Surely there are other much less inflammatory places where they can have their community centre.
If Christians are supposed to be showing understanding toward Muslims, then the reverse also needs to occur
If the New York islamic community can't have a community centre within 500m or 1 km from the ground zero site because of the actions of a few Saudi extremists, we are fostering speratism in the Western communities.I don't really agree with you here. Surely there are other much less inflammatory places where they can have their community centre.
If Christians are supposed to be showing understanding toward Muslims, then the reverse also needs to occur.
Geert Wilders Dutch MP exposes the aspirations of Islam for world domination.
No wonder the muslim extremist want to behead him.
A must read for all.
http://www.geertwilders.nl/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1604
The same Galileo that was tortured by the Catholic church for his scientific beliefs?Islam is a threat to the Europe of Socrates, Voltaire and Galileo.
The same Galileo that was tortured by the Catholic church for his scientific beliefs?
Maybe we should all start our own fanatical group.
The Normalcy Militia or something like that.
1520s, "insane person," from L. fanaticus "mad, enthusiastic, inspired by a god," originally, "pertaining to a temple," from fanum "temple," related to festus "festive" (see feast). Current sense of "extremely zealous," especially in religion, is first attested 1640s. The noun is from mid-17c., originally in religious sense, of Nonconformists.
A fanatic is someone who can't change his mind and won't change the subject. [Winston Churchill]
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