Why Religion?

[Bobby]

Religion is a form of delusion and those who suffer it are pawns of that self manipulation .

Was fed the garbage when young & evolved quickly enough to be able to think rationally .
Hate & religion go hand in hand , history is proof .

 

[weird]

Religion is a form of delusion and those who suffer it are pawns of that self manipulation .

Was fed the garbage when young & evolved quickly enough to be able to think rationally .
Hate & religion go hand in hand , history is proof .

thanks Bobby, summarize your beliefs in 1000 words or less, which we should all adhere too.

I'm a graduate of engineering and marketing, and was taught in one psych class, 10 rules, which mimic the 10 commandments, or we could go back to the basic golden rule, however as mentioned before this is not the reality we live in, it is only in some societies, do not blind yourself to how the entire world is evolving, it is not how it is reported on the news.

 

[Bobby]

thanks Bobby, summarize your beliefs in 1000 words or less, which we should all adhere too.

I'm a graduate of engineering and marketing, and was taught in one psych class, 10 rules, which mimic the 10 commandments, or we could go back to the basic golden rule, however as mentioned before this is not the reality we live in, it is only in some societies, do not blind yourself to how the entire world is evolving, it is not how it is reported on the news.

That was kinda nice , blessing's be on you
Take it you survived the predators then ?

 

[Solly]

"Rudd starts every day with prayers"

PM says religion keeps him grounded.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25538271-5007133,00.html

What possibly could go wrong now.

 

[Sean K]

PM says religion keeps him grounded.

I'll add 'keeps people grounded' to the list of reasons.

I have seen this concept mentioned before slightly twisted. Religion prvides a framework of moral laws by which to live your life. If you can't be bothered making your own up, or a bit on the dark side of the force, this does make some sence.

Personally, I like to make my own up according to my own environment and culture. Not what was right in the deserts of Western Asia milleniums past.

However, it's a reason for religion, for sure.

 

[Trevor_S]

 

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did this happen to rudd? is this how his wife got 200 million from controllable government contracts?

Q: As we talk here, I get the feeling that you have some experience with Vatican recruiting methods””undertaken, of course, through many lower-level cut-outs.

A: You’re right. I do. It’s in the area of making lay-Catholics into agents. I have known several people who were approached. The basic routine went like this. A Catholic businessman in a large city is contacted by the local chapter of one of those Catholic groups. There are scores of them. They have different names. They all seem benign or charitable or merely honorary.

Q: So this businessman goes to a meeting.

A: Sure. A lunch, a meeting. He ends up joining the group. He’s already a successful man. Very energetic and ambitious. Wants to get ahead. So, after a year or so, an opportunity is placed in his path. One of his new friends in the group introduces him to a loan officer at a bank, and before you know it, he gets cash to expand his business. Things are starting to cook. This is a fairly slow process, and at every step the businessman (or politician and his businessman wife) is vetted. Loosely, because nothing has really happened yet. But after another year or two, he acquires a partner in a new venture. The partner is also a member of this lay-Catholic club. The new venture prospers. The businessman meets the local bishop. He is nominated for some kind of layman of the year award. He doesn’t win, but his profile is raised. After years of not going to church, he now goes. He even receives confession once a month. After three or four years, he is introduced to a “financial expert” who is also from the same local group. The expert is really a Jesuit, but very few people know that. The Jesuit becomes his friend. He takes him on a trip to Rome, and they have an audience with a cardinal. Brief. On and on it goes. The businessman is vetted every step of the way. He buys into a construction company. He is now becoming rich. He doesn’t think much about it, but his new lifestyle is really dependent on his acquired Catholic friends. And all they have done for him. He of course would never want to give up the new lifestyle.

 

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sound familliar...?

And ten years later this man is really all the way in the pocket of his Jesuit friend. And in the case I’m describing, we eventually get to political office. Running for office. And winning.

And down the road, with a lot of money in the bank, and many political favors later, this businessman is offered a post in a federal agency. Has to do with foreign trade. He takes the job, on the strong recommendation of his Jesuit friend. And finally, after several more turns of the wheel which I won’t describe, this businessman becomes an ambassador. And is completely beholden. He takes orders, although he may not think of it that way. And he is an agent. He passes along information to his friend. Lots of information. And he becomes trusted. And now he is told of a larger program. It involves making the Church more prominent in the lives of many people. The expansion of the influence of the Church-because that’s really what it’s all about, isn’t it? And this businessman joins another Catholic group, and is made a knight. The businessman is never considered to be an insider, because he has certain scruples. So he is used as he can be used. And one day, for three minutes, he meets the Pope, as part of a group.

 

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And one day, for three minutes, he meets the Pope, as part of a group.

 

[Sean K]

Metric, please provide links to the quotes.

Thanks.

 

[RamonR]

I remember an interesting conversation with a forensically detained schizophrenic who was convinced he was Jesus Christ. That was clearly a delusion rather than a correlation between schizophrenia and religion.

What evidence do you have for this? I'm not saying it's not true, just that I've never heard of it. Are you suggesting a causal relationship from one or the other? If so how is this postulated to work?

What I am saying from my 24 years of experience in mental health is that religious delusions are very common amongst schizophrenics.

I don't understand why you do not see this as a correlation between schizophrenia and being highly religious, just because it has been labeled a delusion.

 

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the article traces back to ...www.scribd.com/word/removal/7197144

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the article is on

http://www.peasantresearch.com/test...74&t=1853&start=0&hilit=how+the+vatican+works

but you must register to view.......thats why i didnt show a link. im cautious that i'll get accused of my links being called spam...instead of links..

i can copy and paste the full article if anyone would like it...
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[bowman]

Religion is not funny and neither is Rove.

 

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Religion is not funny and neither is Rove.

He attended Orana Catholic Primary School and Corpus Christi College, Bateman.

great observation bowman....

 

[bowman]

LOL

I knew there was a fit there somewhere.

I had the misfortune of 3 years of boarding in a Catholic school.

Totally screwed up my formative years and I think I'm still in recovery in some ways.

 

[metric]

still digging...

hes done a lot in a short time with no talent...

Rove McManus on offending viewers
"People said because I am Catholic it was disgraceful that I made jokes about the Pope, but to me, if I am a Catholic, I can laugh at it."

Worst guest
American comedian Scott Capurro talked in 2001 about having sex with the Virgin Mary. "Until this day, there are parts of me that will never be OK with that incident."

With a tonight show as its flagship, Rove McManus created a youthful media empire. .

But look below the surface and you'll find a successful businessman (ranked nine on last year's BRW rich entertainers list),

McManus's television career began at community TV Channel 31

http://www.smh.com.au/news/TV--Radio/Knight-of-nights/2005/03/24/1111525274115.html

Channel 31 community TV in Brisbane. RCTA is a local non-profit Catholic spiritual apostolate.

http://www.rcta.com.au/RCTADonorAppeal.pdf


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[Sean K]

Any addition to why we have religion out of all that?

 

[mastatrada]

I think it is a case of the tail wagging the dog to say that religion is the cause of wars- human nature is the cause of wars and religion is just another excuse to kill each other. The fervour of the masses is manipulated by cunning politicians such as Islamic imams and the pope, but usually just to expand their own power base and wealth.

 

[metric]

Any addition to why we have religion out of all that?

it is as its always been. someone looking to profit from confusion and ignorance. science cant answer everything and 'god done it' fills the void.

ive no doubt that the ignorant status quo of the masses is promoted by religion. scientific advances are smothered, new technologies are hidden, and religious stooges (or the beholden) are advanced in business, entertainment and politics.

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[Sean K]

it is as its always been. someone looking to profit from confusion and ignorance. science cant answer everything and 'god done it' fills the void.

ive no doubt that the ignorant status quo of the masses is promoted by religion. scientific advances are smothered, new technologies are hidden, and religious stooges (or the beholden) are advanced in business, entertainment and politics.

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So:

someone looking to profit from confusion and ignorance.

I can't see that from what you posted, but OK.


I'm sure some of the gazillion dollar born again TV evangelists in the US suit this.

So, it's a profit stream.

On the list.